View Full Version : We need to draft this guy!!!
CanesBucs1
01-01-2006, 12:35 PM
Devin Hester from Miami. This would be a great draft pick for us in the second round. He was underutilized and undercoached at Miami. They have big time coaching issues right now. The guy can be a WR, or a CB. We have great coaching on offense and defense. But the main thing is that he is a GREAT KR/PR. We can really help our field position with him. I am sick of having to drive 80 yards after every kickoff. Plus if we put him as a WR, he can be a slot guy for a year, and by the time Galloway retires in a year or 2, he can step right in and be our downfield threat. He is as fast as anyone I have ever seen. Because of Miami's bad coaches right now, he will be a steal in the draft.
I'm a Miami fan so probably a little biased in this discussion. But Devin Hester is an exciting player to watch, has been for a couple years now. I'd love to see him in a Buccaneer uniform for more than 1 reason. I think he could be that shot in the arm our return teams need right now. He still has a ways to go developing as a WR, but playing behind Galloway for a couple years could really do him some good.
CanesBucs1
01-01-2006, 12:48 PM
Plus, unlike Coker and his horrible staff, Gruden will give this kid the coaching he needs. He has been underused and jerked around his entire Miami career. He has 2 things you cant coach, talent and speed. He will not start immediatly, but will help us on special teams right away, and will make some big plays with limited touches on offense.
Bucz R #1
01-01-2006, 12:51 PM
If I remember correctly, he said he wasn't leaving UM this year and staying for his senor year. Hopefully we can draft him next year though. I think he is the missing link to our ST problem if you now what I mean.
Devin Hester from Miami. This would be a great draft pick for us in the second round. He was underutilized and undercoached at Miami. They have big time coaching issues right now. The guy can be a WR, or a CB. We have great coaching on offense and defense. But the main thing is that he is a GREAT KR/PR. We can really help our field position with him. I am sick of having to drive 80 yards after every kickoff. Plus if we put him as a WR, he can be a slot guy for a year, and by the time Galloway retires in a year or 2, he can step right in and be our downfield threat. He is as fast as anyone I have ever seen. Because of Miami's bad coaches right now, he will be a steal in the draft.
as much as the 'Nole in me hates to admit this.....your right .....kid is going to be a GREAT ST star in the league.....Jury is out on WR though
CanesBucs1
01-01-2006, 01:00 PM
I heard yeaterday that he will announce Monday or Tuesday that he IS going to enter the draft. He is sick of being switched every week at different positions. I promise you guys, he will be a great receiver with NFL coaches. It may take a year though. The offensive coaching staff at Miami right now is really bad, and will probably be fired by the end of the week. That means the WR coach, OC, and OL coach. They have had numerous 5* recievers that have not gotten any better. IT is the staff that is the problem. I would be more than willing to spend a second round pick on Hester. If we got him, he would break the streak of never returning a KO for a td in his rookie year. Plus, I don't know if any of you saw the Peach Bowl, but if it wasnt for him, Miami would have been shut out. He gained all their yards on the first drive of the game. Then the stupid coaches took him out of the game, and Miami didnt do anything.
What happened to Miami Friday night? http://www.my-smileys.de/smileys2/00000284annie.gif
I actually thought that my Tigers would be on the receiving end of the beat down. Glad that I was wrong though.
I still think that Miami was screwed in that Ohio State game. http://asuka.clanintern.de/ci//extern/smile/flop.gif
Bucalicious
01-01-2006, 01:08 PM
Sounds awsome to me. I dont follow college ball much, so I have to take the word of people who do.
However, I really dont know that coach is gonna be looking for more offensive weapons. This is going to be more of a defensive and special teams look this year I think.
I would LOVE to have some more wide recievers though for Simms. :grinyes:
big poppa buc
01-01-2006, 01:29 PM
What happened to Miami Friday night? http://www.my-smileys.de/smileys2/00000284annie.gif
I actually thought that my Tigers would be on the receiving end of the beat down. Glad that I was wrong though.
I still think that Miami was screwed in that Ohio State game. http://asuka.clanintern.de/ci//extern/smile/flop.gif
What happened is what has been happening since Butch Davis' players have graduated. Coker can recruit defensive players and he can coach defense, but Miami hasn't had an offense since Dorsey and Co. left the school. The talent is there on offense but nobody is coaching these kids up. Coker won a title with Butch Davis' team and got robbed of one with the same team. He's best as an Asst. Coach. He didn't have his guys ready, just like the FSU and Ga Tech games. Miami is better off looking for a real HC and letting Coker take an Asst role or he can go somewhere else.
big poppa buc
01-01-2006, 01:31 PM
Hester is probably better off staying in school and learning to be a CB. He has great physical tools but he won't be much of a CB in the NFL. He's really not much of a CB in college. I'm a huge Miami fan and Hester is a great talent, but I hope the Bucs don't take him.......unless he's there in the 3rd or 4th round.
TiM-GoBucs
01-01-2006, 02:01 PM
http://images.fishstripes.com/images/admin/Hester_Speed_Kills.wmv
There's a video of him. I think even a 2nd round pick would be worth him.
BearLandBucFan
01-01-2006, 02:32 PM
Devin Hester from Miami. This would be a great draft pick for us in the second round. He was underutilized and undercoached at Miami. They have big time coaching issues right now. The guy can be a WR, or a CB. We have great coaching on offense and defense. But the main thing is that he is a GREAT KR/PR. We can really help our field position with him. I am sick of having to drive 80 yards after every kickoff. Plus if we put him as a WR, he can be a slot guy for a year, and by the time Galloway retires in a year or 2, he can step right in and be our downfield threat. He is as fast as anyone I have ever seen. Because of Miami's bad coaches right now, he will be a steal in the draft.
Yeah another underachieving Florida WR. We can't have too many of those in our history right?
CanesBucs1
01-01-2006, 07:29 PM
He is from Miami, not Florida. That is a huge difference when you talk about programs that send guys into the NFL. I think he can be like Santana Moss. It took Moss a few years, but look at him now. They are both the same type of player. Hester is just not polished because of the staff at Miami right now.
Donnie
01-02-2006, 10:46 AM
Just saw on ESPN he will enter the NFL Draft. he would be a great pickup for any team. Devin is a great player awesome speed great moves and fast feet who ever gets him is getting a player.
That was some pathetic display of coverage..
The Future
01-02-2006, 10:56 AM
Just saw on ESPN he will enter the NFL Draft. he would be a great pickup for any team. Devin is a great player awesome speed great moves and fast feet who ever gets him is getting a player.
He is a can do it all type player but my question is can he be dominate @ 1 spot in the NFL? Great Return man. I think Kiffin could teach this kid very well and make him a pro bowl player.
EDIT:http://media.putfile.com/Hester4Hesiman :eek: :eek:
Frank784
01-02-2006, 12:14 PM
He is too raw and needs some more playing Time at CornerBack. Even Mel Kiper said it would be a mistake if he did come out...and that he'd be something like a 5th round draft pick.
The Future
01-02-2006, 12:25 PM
He is too raw and needs some more playing Time at CornerBack. Even Mel Kiper said it would be a mistake if he did come out...and that he'd be something like a 5th round draft pick.
OMG there is no way he falls to the 5th round teams will draft him in the 2nd based on potential.
All_da_way
01-02-2006, 12:29 PM
A 1st day project? No thank you.
big poppa buc
01-02-2006, 12:48 PM
OMG there is no way he falls to the 5th round teams will draft him in the 2nd based on potential.
No Kiper's right. Hester doesn't have a position, he's not a WR...he's not a CB. Right now he's just a good KR/PR man. I'd say he's a 3rd rounder at the very best.
SeaDubBuccaneer
01-02-2006, 12:49 PM
much rather have chad jackson who can play WR and KR. his future is bright.
The Future
01-02-2006, 12:51 PM
No Kiper's right. Hester doesn't have a position, he's not a WR...he's not a CB. Right now he's just a good KR/PR man. I'd say he's a 3rd rounder at the very best.
3rd round is a lot better than a 5th rounder. Teams draft many players based on potential. A lot of people said Lofa Tatupu was a bust and not worth a 2nd rounder and look at what he has done, even Matt Jones changin postition was a 1st rounder.
The Future
01-02-2006, 12:54 PM
The kid left for a good cause he wants to help out his family.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2277864
If that kid runs a 4.2 no one in there right mind would pass up on him
CADILLAC!!!05
01-02-2006, 01:04 PM
Hey, if he runs a 4.2 , he has experience in Special teams, then i say we take a shot on him!!!! but i want Defense this year strickly Defense!!!! Jones hasn't done too bad for us this year i think but a 4.2 speedster could really help us out next year!!!!
The Future
01-02-2006, 01:07 PM
Hey, if he runs a 4.2 , he has experience in Special teams, then i say we take a shot on him!!!! but i want Defense this year strickly Defense!!!! Jones hasn't done too bad for us this year i think but a 4.2 speedster could really help us out next year!!!!
I agree hester can get reps at nickel back. he is entering the draft as a CB so we might be able to pick him up in the 2nd round.
Pantera Canes
01-02-2006, 01:13 PM
He is a raw athlete right now. Part of that is because he has played every position in every game since he has been here. I think he has top 10 tallent, just needs to get a chance to focus on one position. He will be one of those guys with first round tallent who drops down to round 2 or 3 due to not having it focused yet.
I don't know if he will come out or not. I believe he is still thinking about it. If he does I hope we pick him up. He won't start yet, but in 2 or 3 years will be great. Sort of like how Ronde did. I think Hester could do great things here.
The Future
01-02-2006, 01:15 PM
He is a raw athlete right now. Part of that is because he has played every position in every game since he has been here. I think he has top 10 tallent, just needs to get a chance to focus on one position. He will be one of those guys with first round tallent who drops down to round 2 or 3 due to not having it focused yet.
I don't know if he will come out or not. I believe he is still thinking about it. If he does I hope we pick him up. He won't start yet, but in 2 or 3 years will be great. Sort of like how Ronde did. I think Hester could do great things here.
According to the article I posted he is entering the draft because he wants to help out his family whose house was hit by the hurricane.
JamesWilder32
01-02-2006, 01:30 PM
Guys, there is no way he goes before the 3rd. This is a guy that for the first few seasons can only hope to be a ST guy, as I recall the Texans drafted a pretty good ST/WR in the 4th this past year and that is exactly where Hester should go. The big difference is that Jermome Mathis actually proved he could play WR in college while Hester can't even beat out 1 of 4 DBs and earn a starting job. He is a tremendous project as he has been moved around so much with so little success. That being said, i would love to see the Bucs take a chance on him in the 4th and wouldn't be upset if we reached a bit for him in the 3rd.
He is a great kick returner and I would love to see us grab a guy like that and make us a threat to finally return one.
Pantera Canes
01-02-2006, 01:34 PM
According to the article I posted he is entering the draft because he wants to help out his family whose house was hit by the hurricane.
I see. Well, I hope we can help him get them a nice new house.
What ever happened to Frank Gores mom? I know she needed lots of surgery to stay alive and he was going to use his NFL money to get her surgery and take care of her health.
AlEGator
01-02-2006, 01:35 PM
No Kiper's right. Hester doesn't have a position, he's not a WR...he's not a CB. Right now he's just a good KR/PR man. I'd say he's a 3rd rounder at the very best.
I agree. The kid needs to get more settled into a position for the NFL. Every team needs good special teams players, but he needs to do something else as well.
english_BUC
01-02-2006, 01:54 PM
If I remember correctly, he said he wasn't leaving UM this year and staying for his senor year. Hopefully we can draft him next year though. I think he is the missing link to our ST problem if you now what I mean.
ESPN have just announced he will definately be in the draft this year!!!!
big poppa buc
01-02-2006, 02:00 PM
3rd round is a lot better than a 5th rounder. Teams draft many players based on potential. A lot of people said Lofa Tatupu was a bust and not worth a 2nd rounder and look at what he has done, even Matt Jones changin postition was a 1st rounder.
I said 3rd rounder at the very best. Matt Jones was taken in the first round and that was a huge reach. Tatupu had a defined position in college and while many thought he was a reach in the second round he was probably a 3rd rounder at worst. Hester has no position and is a 3rd rounder at best although Kiper is probably correct in calling him a 5th rounder and the only reason he is saying that is b/c of his speed and return talent. He's not a good CB, he's not even a starter at the position, he's not a WR or a RB. He's a rerutn specialist. Hester would be better served to stay in college another year and work on his skills at CB.
c-money
01-02-2006, 02:01 PM
Devin Hester is the most overrated player in college football. Did you guys not watch the Peach Bowl. Miami lined him up at rb and wr and he did nothing all game. I am so sick of college announcers talking about him and saying he is going to be the x-factor in a game. How many returns did he have for touchdowns this year...one? Skyler Green > Devin Hester.
simmsdabeast#2
01-02-2006, 02:05 PM
I agree with u all the way man. Pick a corner in the 3rd round who is a good returner. i have done some research and found some other guys. here they r:
Rushing, T. J. CB/KR
McLemore, Daniel CB/KR
Hunter, Darrell CB/KR
Hudson, Marcus CB/KR
Gregory, Steve CB/KR
Eubanks, John CB/KR
Belleus, Walner CB/PR
The Future
01-02-2006, 02:07 PM
Devin Hester is the most overrated player in college football. Did you guys not watch the Peach Bowl. Miami lined him up at rb and wr and he did nothing all game. I am so sick of college announcers talking about him and saying he is going to be the x-factor in a game. How many returns did he have for touchdowns this year...one? Skyler Green > Devin Hester.
Your going to base a player on 1 game? Skyler Green isnt even that good and wont be in the NFL.
Faithwarrior
01-02-2006, 02:10 PM
While Devin Hester has a lot of athletic talent he has yet to learn how to focus it. I don't even think he is that great of a returner.. I mean look at this years Miami-FSU game. A game that Miami typically dominates. He looked so scared the entire game. He bobbled and dropped punt returns the entire game. I think he is a total bust of talent. Speed kills yes, but doesn't do any good if you can't catch the ball and make good decisions. If he had become even a good WR or CB then i would say ya lets take a chance on him in the 3-5th rounds but come on.. He isn't even a starter on that team other than on special teams. We need guys that can come in right away and contribute. I've seen a lot of posters saying we need Olineman and lots of def. players. I realize we are ok at LB but i would really like to get Hodge from Iowa. That kid is a complete stud of a LB. He might be a MLB if i heard right but still he could help us in the very soon future. We could slide Ruud to outside LB to fill in for Nece or Brooks one day and have Cooper playing the other side. That would be a great young linebacking core for years. I realize that Hodge will probably be gone by the time we go to pick but it would be a nice rout to go. There is word that Antonio Cromartie the CB from FSU will be coming out. That kid is one of the most talented CB i've seen in college. Not only is he a big corner but he is also very fast. I think if we had the opportunity to grab him we should. He could come in and be our nickel until Barber or Kelly leaves. Just a thought! GO BUCS!!!
UMiamiBucFan
01-02-2006, 02:38 PM
I lived on the same floor as Hester a couple years ago. He was nearly always in a walking boot all week long and then was ready to play on game day. I would love to see him as a Buc because I know that kick return record would be gone the first game, but I don't think the Bucs will draft him. Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden have made it a point to draft some higher character players with their high draft picks. Mike Clayton, Cadillac, Alex Smith, Ruud are all high character players. If the Bucs were to draft Hester, he would have to nail his interview. I also think that his hype might push him into the first round, tho he really should only go in the 2nd at best. He would also be quite a project player as he has some experience as a defender, but might be best suited for offense. When he played CB for the Canes, he had a tendency to free lance a bit and blow some coverages and I'm not too confident in his tackling ability. But he is a ballhawk. He would probably making a pretty good Tampa2 Safety because of his range. While a lot of people think offense would be best for him, I don't think Jon Gruden's offense would be good for him at all. Remember, this guy was moved from offense to defense because he had trouble picking up the Canes offense. Granted the Canes run a pro style offense, its still nowhere near the level of Gruden's offense. Hester would probably need 2 seasons just to get comfortable. I think if the Bucs drafted him, he would stay on defense. I'm just really sorry Hester couldn't have stayed another year for the Canes, he could have been a first round pick if he had. But family comes first and his house still needs a roof so I think he made the right choice.
I do like Antonio Cromartie but I think he is too injury prone and will probably be drafted higher than the Bucs pick.
CADILLAC!!!05
01-02-2006, 02:52 PM
I agree with u all the way man. Pick a corner in the 3rd round who is a good returner. i have done some research and found some other guys. here they r:
Rushing, T. J. CB/KR
McLemore, Daniel CB/KR
Hunter, Darrell CB/KR
Hudson, Marcus CB/KR
Gregory, Steve CB/KR
Eubanks, John CB/KR
Belleus, Walner CB/PR
John Eubanks run a 4.1 forty!!!!! He's a good coverage corner but needs work on his tackling!!!! Great pick for 2nd or 3rd round!!!
chileno
01-02-2006, 04:21 PM
Dante Hall was drafted in the fifth round if that serves as reference. I do think that Hester will go higher though, he is just too good of an athlete.
TiM-GoBucs
01-02-2006, 04:22 PM
http://images.fishstripes.com/images/admin/Hester_Speed_Kills.wmv
I'd love to see this guy in a Bucs uniform.
Pantera Canes
01-02-2006, 04:39 PM
Didn't we draft a guy a years ago in the 3rd round who needed coaching? I remember something about a corner who sat on the practice squad for a year or two. The coaching staff was able to bring him along to be a multi pro bowler.
Hester has a lot more physical tallent than him. I don't know about the intelligence level and if they are close or who is smarter. So I will have to go with even on that for now.
Plus hester will bring immediate impact to the team. Have him return punts, kicks, and who better than possibly the fastest guy in the NFL to be gunning down on punts and kick offs. He is already willing to play special teams and do whatever the coaches ask of him. He has unlimited raw tallent, speed, reciever quality hands, etc. I admitt he needs coaching and to concentrate on being a corner. Our coaches have done pretty well in the past. Plus he would have Barber, Kelly, and Boldin to mentor him while he learns. Give him 2 or 3 years of that and he could be making the pro bowl for us as a returner and a corner.
Pack Man Jones was drafted for his return ability, and he was drafted rather high.
c-money
01-02-2006, 10:31 PM
Your going to base a player on 1 game? Skyler Green isnt even that good and wont be in the NFL.
Are you joking? Watch some LSU games, Skyler Green is a great player. No I'm not basing it on one game, what has Hester done this season?
c-money
01-02-2006, 10:32 PM
I lived on the same floor as Hester a couple years ago. He was nearly always in a walking boot all week long and then was ready to play on game day. I would love to see him as a Buc because I know that kick return record would be gone the first game, but I don't think the Bucs will draft him. Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden have made it a point to draft some higher character players with their high draft picks. Mike Clayton, Cadillac, Alex Smith, Ruud are all high character players. If the Bucs were to draft Hester, he would have to nail his interview. I also think that his hype might push him into the first round, tho he really should only go in the 2nd at best. He would also be quite a project player as he has some experience as a defender, but might be best suited for offense. When he played CB for the Canes, he had a tendency to free lance a bit and blow some coverages and I'm not too confident in his tackling ability. But he is a ballhawk. He would probably making a pretty good Tampa2 Safety because of his range. While a lot of people think offense would be best for him, I don't think Jon Gruden's offense would be good for him at all. Remember, this guy was moved from offense to defense because he had trouble picking up the Canes offense. Granted the Canes run a pro style offense, its still nowhere near the level of Gruden's offense. Hester would probably need 2 seasons just to get comfortable. I think if the Bucs drafted him, he would stay on defense. I'm just really sorry Hester couldn't have stayed another year for the Canes, he could have been a first round pick if he had. But family comes first and his house still needs a roof so I think he made the right choice.
I do like Antonio Cromartie but I think he is too injury prone and will probably be drafted higher than the Bucs pick.
Cromartie decided to stay for his senior season, he should be a first round pick next year. This ACL injury was his first at FSU.
Ballin_Since_76
01-02-2006, 11:07 PM
YES!
DEVIN HESTER!
kick/punter returner
wideout
corner
the answer
CanesBucs1
01-03-2006, 02:52 AM
Hester has had no chance to do much this year cause almost nobody kicked to him all year. Plus the staff at Miami, kept switching him at different positions. If you did see the Peach Bowl, then you would know that hester was in on the first series on offense, and got every yard for Miami on that drive. That was the only drive that produced points. Thenthe coaches took him out. The only thing holding him back were the coaches at Miami. Notice they got fired today. Hester played nickleback last year, and led the team in interceptions. The guy is a playmaker. I agree that sometimes he freelances in coverage, but he also makes plays. The guys that beat him out for the starting CB spots were seniors that have been CB's their entire careers, and they were the best pass defense in the NCAA. He was switched 3 times at different positions. He will be working out with Deon to improve his CB skills before the draft. Plus in our system, he could be a NB his first year, as well as a KR/PR. He would make a huge impact his rookie year. He was on the punt coverage at Miami, and consistanly beat the ball to the returner. In our defensive system, the CB's are not exposed, and with his range, he could really excell. He is well worth a 2nd round pick for us.
Slash
01-03-2006, 02:59 AM
Will he even be available in the 2nd round?
NoAlibi
01-03-2006, 03:26 AM
John Eubanks run a 4.1 forty!!!!! He's a good coverage corner but needs work on his tackling!!!! Great pick for 2nd or 3rd round!!!
Are you his brother or something? John Eubanks doesn't run a 4.1....No player coming out this year runs a 4.1... :rotf:
in fact, maybe 1 or 2 guys in the history of the NFL have...John Eubanks isn't one of them...Guy probably doesn't even run a 4.4...Maybe a 4.48 4.52 something like that.
FarPastGone
01-03-2006, 04:28 AM
Hester would be an amazing addition to the Buccaneers, he is an explosive player. Please I can't harp this enough watch this video:
http://media.putfile.com/DwayneSlay
Dwayne Slay - S - Texas Tech
6' 3" - 214lbs
I know Tech isn't known for their defense, but seriously he broke last years first rounder from UTexas Derrick Johnson's forced fumble record in a season for the Big 12, and all were from hits, not strips.
Mel Kiper had him as one of the top defensive players in the draft on College Gameday on Sunday. He was Big 12 Defensive Player of the year this year.
CAbucfan8024
01-03-2006, 08:51 PM
Hester would be an amazing addition to the Buccaneers, he is an explosive player. Please I can't harp this enough watch this video:
http://media.putfile.com/DwayneSlay
Dwayne Slay - S - Texas Tech
6' 3" - 214lbs
I know Tech isn't known for their defense, but seriously he broke last years first rounder from UTexas Derrick Johnson's forced fumble record in a season for the Big 12, and all were from hits, not strips.
Mel Kiper had him as one of the top defensive players in the draft on College Gameday on Sunday. He was Big 12 Defensive Player of the year this year.
that hit is awsome but we have Phillips and hes still learning.
PantherSlayer
01-03-2006, 08:54 PM
I agree. The kid needs to get more settled into a position for the NFL. Every team needs good special teams players, but he needs to do something else as well.
Aromushoudu from Auburn would also be a good pick
buccaneers2480
01-03-2006, 08:56 PM
i dont think we should take him. right now, he is nothing more than a kick returner. if he does finally get put at corner and learn the position, he could be a great pic, but he is too much of a risk for me in the 1rst or 2nd
FLA-ORGator666
01-03-2006, 09:33 PM
i dont think we should take him. right now, he is nothing more than a kick returner. if he does finally get put at corner and learn the position, he could be a great pic, but he is too much of a risk for me in the 1rst or 2nd
I was just about to say pretty much that. Hester has alot of speed, but he is not a good WR not a good CB, just a kick returner. People here are overrating him, he is mostly speed, attitude, and hype. In the 3rd or 4th, I could accept that, but not any higher.
nolesfan4life
01-04-2006, 01:33 PM
i laughed for about 10 minutes when i saw that devin hester was entering the NFL draft.
He's not a good WR, he couldn't cut it at CB. He's not going to have a position on the field and that athlete position that he plays in college like Ted Ginn Jr. does has shown not to work on the NFL field, only at the collegiate level.
Ruger7mmmag
01-04-2006, 01:46 PM
I watched Hester in a number of games this year and he is fast, but not polished AT ALL. True he may be fast, but you only have so many draft picks and as we saw this past week with Pittman averaging 28 yards per kick return, we can't waste a draft pick on a one dimensional player. We have too many WR's we didn't use this year (Brackins, Warren) and we need a stud DB who can come in and be a stud in two years. Hester is not that guy. He'll get drafted, but it'll be by a team who is really weak in the secondary who can use him in two spots. Even guys like Dante Hall just don't do kick returns. In the age of the salary cap, you can't afford to lose a roster spot and monies for a player to just return kicks.
silkamilkamonic
01-04-2006, 02:00 PM
I've seen almost every Miami game this year, and the last couple of years.
Devin Hester = overrated.
Sure he would be a good returner, but he's not a CB, and he's not a WR. He gets burned by small school slot players and #3 recievers. There's a reason why Coker wanted to move him to offense. He doesn't know how to run sharp routes and he doesn't have very good hands.
A second round pick for only a returner? no thanks.....
BucsFanatic#24
12-13-2006, 06:09 PM
I've seen almost every Miami game this year, and the last couple of years.
Devin Hester = overrated.
Sure he would be a good returner, but he's not a CB, and he's not a WR. He gets burned by small school slot players and #3 recievers. There's a reason why Coker wanted to move him to offense. He doesn't know how to run sharp routes and he doesn't have very good hands.
A second round pick for only a returner? no thanks.....
:lol: :rotf: :lol: :grinno:
farland
12-13-2006, 06:30 PM
:lol: :rotf: :lol: :grinno:he was actualy almost totaly right. He has done nothing outside of KR/PR and if you think that is worth a 2nd round pick he was only wrong there. ;)
kmil579
12-13-2006, 06:48 PM
i laughed for about 10 minutes when i saw that devin hester was entering the NFL draft.
He's not a good WR, he couldn't cut it at CB. He's not going to have a position on the field and that athlete position that he plays in college like Ted Ginn Jr. does has shown not to work on the NFL field, only at the collegiate level.
Still laughing noles? Now i see why you talk so much smack on him in other threads. Still hating with all that egg on your face is not becoming of you. Your steaming pile of crow is sitting in front of you and you need to just take a big bite and be quiet. Let it marinate for a minute.
njdshady2001
12-13-2006, 07:05 PM
Wow, a lot of people look really dumb right now.
Urbanswashbuckler
12-13-2006, 07:50 PM
he was actualy almost totaly right. He has done nothing outside of KR/PR and if you think that is worth a 2nd round pick he was only wrong there. ;)
but he has scored..unfortunatley the bucs cant say the same...
and 6 in one year vs 0 in 31...hmmmm
totally worth it.
BucsFanatic#24
12-13-2006, 07:53 PM
he was actualy almost totaly right. He has done nothing outside of KR/PR and if you think that is worth a 2nd round pick he was only wrong there. ;)
the main hting I was laughing about was Devin Hester= Overrated
BisonBacker
12-13-2006, 07:57 PM
Didn't the Bears have one of the Special Teams in the league last year too? Not saying Hester hasn't been a great returner this year, because he has, but there is more too it than that. Put him on this years Bucs, and he probably has 0-1 TD returns...
SnookAU
12-13-2006, 08:11 PM
but he has scored..unfortunatley the bucs cant say the same...
and 6 in one year vs 0 in 31...hmmmm
totally worth it.
Those two kickoff TDs are were the 1st of the season.
3 others are punt returns and the other is that missed FG return.
Amazing how a guy can run back TWO kicks in one game and the Bucs can't do it once in 31 years.
ABuc4Life
12-13-2006, 09:10 PM
How about Reggie "The Eraser" Nelson?
nolesfan4life
12-14-2006, 12:33 AM
Still laughing noles? Now i see why you talk so much smack on him in other threads. Still hating with all that egg on your face is not becoming of you. Your steaming pile of crow is sitting in front of you and you need to just take a big bite and be quiet. Let it marinate for a minute.funny what i wrote was, he wouldn't have a position on the field, i guess he's a return man but thats it
but i guess he's a DB too, did you see holt burn him? great impact on the defense hester :rolleyes:
and 0 catches, 0 rushing attempts, 0 offensive yards, yup not doing anything as a WR anyways
so they pretty much have him on the team just to return kicks, using a 2nd round pick on a return man, yeah serve that crow hot :rolleyes:
nolesfan4life
12-14-2006, 12:37 AM
but he has scored..unfortunatley the bucs cant say the same...
and 6 in one year vs 0 in 31...hmmmm
totally worth it.
6 in one year, and we won't come close again
Dante Halls year of 4 TDs everybody thought he was god's gift of returning
the next year he only had 2 returns for TDs, the year after that he had 1, and he's had 0 this year
teams learn, teams are going to stop kicking to hester. notice these kick returns who have this huge season, and never really do anything much after that, for instance chad morton and michael lewis also come to mind. Teams get smart, hester won't even come close to what he's done this season, so he's pretty much hit his peak his rookie year
and if you didn't notice, he sucks at everything else
UMiamiBucFan
12-14-2006, 12:38 AM
funny what i wrote was, he wouldn't have a position on the field, i guess he's a return man but thats it
but i guess he's a DB too, did you see holt burn him? great impact on the defense hester :rolleyes:
and 0 catches, 0 rushing attempts, 0 offensive yards, yup not doing anything as a WR anyways
so they pretty much have him on the team just to return kicks, using a 2nd round pick on a return man, yeah serve that crow hot :rolleyes:
To be fair, who doesn't get toasted by Holt?
I think the Bears need to be creative in using him on offense, but I think they are committed to making him a CB.
huds0n
12-15-2006, 03:27 PM
6 in one year, and we won't come close again
Dante Halls year of 4 TDs everybody thought he was god's gift of returning
the next year he only had 2 returns for TDs, the year after that he had 1, and he's had 0 this year
teams learn, teams are going to stop kicking to hester. notice these kick returns who have this huge season, and never really do anything much after that, for instance chad morton and michael lewis also come to mind. Teams get smart, hester won't even come close to what he's done this season, so he's pretty much hit his peak his rookie year
and if you didn't notice, he sucks at everything else
And he sucks at everything else? What makes you say that? 6 returns in a year, winning 1 game and maybe saving 2 others. Its worth the 2nd round pick. He sucks at everything else? He isn't playing offense. (May change next year). He has been buried on the depth chart at CB position. The Bears are deep at CB. Tillman, Vasher, Manning, Wesley and then Hester. Monday was the 1st game he played a significant number of plays. Injuries to Vasher and 3 safeties got him on the field. A rookie getting beat by Holt? Probably not a headline. The Bears didn't plan on him playing much this year. Apparently they felt he needed a whole lot of coaching. Seems he played every where and nowhere at Miami. And remember that Monday night was his 1st game as the starting kick returner. 2 TD's. I think the Bears will take that for a 2nd rd pick. Yes, if teams start kicking away from him and sacrafice field position for no TD returns he won't look as effective on a stat sheet. But he still will effect field position.
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