Matt Leinart Comments: ( total Jerkwad)

[ZombieBuc]

after USC lost they interviewed Matt and what he said was tottally classless. Talking about even though they loss USC was still better then Texas, then walking off while being interviewed. What 2 championship rings are not good enough for you Matt? On the otherhand Pete Carroll was total class



GRATS TEXAS!!!!!!!

[bigskinbauer]

after USC lost they interviewed Matt and what he said was tottally classless. Talking about even though they loss USC was still better then Texas, then walking off while being interviewed. What 2 championship rings are not good enough for you Matt? On the otherhand Pete Carroll was total class



GRATS TEXAS!!!!!!!
the baby is not used to losing. Just lost his number two spot in the draft. Well i am not sure if i would want to go to the saints. I think there may be another ELI situation. I know what happened to the saints is a tragedy but a player out of college shouldn't be forced into a situation like that.

[WI Buccaneer]

all the more reason for him to wear black and gold next year.

[nolesfan4life]

the baby is not used to losing. Just lost his number two spot in the draft. Well i am not sure if i would want to go to the saints. I think there may be another ELI situation. I know what happened to the saints is a tragedy but a player out of college shouldn't be forced into a situation like that.
come april, that "baby" will have more money than you'll see in your life so i guess that "baby" will just have to cry all the way to the bank.

And no, he didn't lose his #2 position in the draft

[FLA-ORGator666]

all the more reason for him to wear black and gold next year.
Vince Young just made a TON of money. If he does enter the draft, the Saints should definately draft him over Lienart.

[FLA-ORGator666]

come april, that "baby" will have more money than you'll see in your life so i guess that "baby" will just have to cry all the way to the bank.

And no, he didn't lose his #2 position in the draft
What about the rumor that he doesn't want to play for the Saints? Why should the Saints draft him if he doesn;t want to play, when Young is the better QB anyway?

But Matt will make a ton of money, and be drafted high.

[WI Buccaneer]

Vince Young just made a TON of money. If he does enter the draft, the Saints should definately draft him over Lienart.

no they shouldn't ;)

[polar playboy]

Vince Young just made a TON of money. If he does enter the draft, the Saints should definately draft him over Lienart.

I agree, I'd rather face Young 2x a year than Leinart, plus that would send Matt to be reunited w/ Chow (and just throwing this out there- possibly Pete Carroll)

[nolesfan4life]

What about the rumor that he doesn't want to play for the Saints? Why should the Saints draft him if he doesn;t want to play, when Young is the better QB anyway?
I really don't see the horribly bad situation in NO.

They got Duece, his is a good RB, i'm not exactly sure whats up with Joe Horn and how long he's going to be there, Donte Stallworth is a pretty viable option as the #2 WR, and Devery Henderson should come into his own as a 3rd option.

they've got lecharles bently on the line, and just drafted jammal brown and i believe they've got another good OL there too.

The problem i really saw with the saints wasn't exactly aaron brooks, it was just that i dont' think haslett was using him the right way. Depending on who comes into NO to coach, it could end up being a good situation to go too.

[FLA-ORGator666]

I agree, I'd rather face Young 2x a year than Leinart, plus that would send Matt to be reunited w/ Chow (and just throwing this out there- possibly Pete Carroll)
Personally, I would rather face Lienart. Matt can throw the ball really good, but he can't move and our D should be able to eat him alive. Then again, I want our D to face a young QB 2x a year anyway. Young or Lienart, our D still loves to face the young'ins.

[FLA-ORGator666]

I really don't see the horribly bad situation in NO.

They got Duece, his is a good RB, i'm not exactly sure whats up with Joe Horn and how long he's going to be there, Donte Stallworth is a pretty viable option as the #2 WR, and Devery Henderson should come into his own as a 3rd option.

they've got lecharles bently on the line, and just drafted jammal brown and i believe they've got another good OL there too.

The problem i really saw with the saints wasn't exactly aaron brooks, it was just that i dont' think haslett was using him the right way. Depending on who comes into NO to coach, it could end up being a good situation to go too.
I agree about the situation in NO. They have some very good ofensive wepons, but that doesn't change the rumor that Lienart doesn;t want to play there. But alot of rumors are bs, so who really knows. I just think the Saints should pick either Lienart or Young, whichever one they like the most and/or will play for them.

[bigskinbauer]

I really don't see the horribly bad situation in NO.

They got Duece, his is a good RB, i'm not exactly sure whats up with Joe Horn and how long he's going to be there, Donte Stallworth is a pretty viable option as the #2 WR, and Devery Henderson should come into his own as a 3rd option.

they've got lecharles bently on the line, and just drafted jammal brown and i believe they've got another good OL there too.

The problem i really saw with the saints wasn't exactly aaron brooks, it was just that i dont' think haslett was using him the right way. Depending on who comes into NO to coach, it could end up being a good situation to go too.
The problem with NO is that the team is in turmoil. No one knows what is gonna happen there or if what happens will be there. IT has nothing to do with players.

[zONKED]

I was shocked by Matt's comments at the end, it was very childish. Seems to me he'd better get used to loosing games, especially with where he'll more than likely be drafted.

[nolesfan4life]

I agree about the situation in NO. They have some very good ofensive wepons, but that doesn't change the rumor that Lienart doesn;t want to play there. But alot of rumors are bs, so who really knows. I just think the Saints should pick either Lienart or Young, whichever one they like the most and/or will play for them.
well let me start by saying, until i see leinert say he doesn't want to play there, i'm not going to believe in all the rumors.

2nd of all, looking into the long run, i think eli made a bad decision to demand a trade.

Everybody and their mother knows that he could've beat out Drew even with the season drew just had, and he basically passed on the opportunity to play with the most dangerous weapon in the NFL, and one of the most physically gifted TEs Gates.

Leinert would be dumb to demand a trade out, because looking at the top, NO might actually have the best situation for a young QB anyways.

[bigskinbauer]

come april, that "baby" will have more money than you'll see in your life so i guess that "baby" will just have to cry all the way to the bank.

And no, he didn't lose his #2 position in the draft
so because a ***** has money i shouldn't call him a *****??

[Corsair]

I'm prepared to see V.Young in NO next year. 2 mobile QB's in the same division, I sure hope our defense continues to stay quick.

[nolesfan4life]

The problem with NO is that the team is in turmoil. No one knows what is gonna happen there or if what happens will be there. IT has nothing to do with players.
well judging from a fan whose seen his team have alot of team turmoil, a new coach in NO will make it go away, if not for even a few years. They will stay in new orleans for next year, and probably even one more year after that, and depending on the fans, they could end up staying there too.

Keeping the Saints in New Orleans is definately going to be on the shoulders of the fans for these two years. If they can start filling the stadium, and really get behind their team, they will be in NO for years to come.

[CSG]

come april, that "baby" will have more money than you'll see in your life so i guess that "baby" will just have to cry all the way to the bank.

And no, he didn't lose his #2 position in the draft


your right he NEVER had it to begin with.....he will go #3 if yYoung stays....maybe as low as 7 if Young comes out

[FLA-ORGator666]

I'm prepared to see V.Young in NO next year. 2 mobile QB's in the same division, I sure hope our defense continues to stay quick.
Should be pretty fun challenge though :grinyes:

[TheBayouBullet]

I'm definitely off the Leinart bandwagon after that comment. I hate prissy boys who whine when they lose.

That said...I hope we take Young, or trade down and snag a QB in the 2nd or 3rd.

[bigskinbauer]

well judging from a fan whose seen his team have alot of team turmoil, a new coach in NO will make it go away, if not for even a few years. They will stay in new orleans for next year, and probably even one more year after that, and depending on the fans, they could end up staying there too.

Keeping the Saints in New Orleans is definately going to be on the shoulders of the fans for these two years. If they can start filling the stadium, and really get behind their team, they will be in NO for years to come.
you are comparing a natural disaster with coaching decisions. I hope for nothing more than for NO to build up again. You think the team isn't in turmoil??

[Corsair]

Should be pretty fun challenge though :grinyes:
Hopefully we can handle him like we handle Vick. With an arm like Young has, it has me a bit worried. Saints could be a great comeback team next year, they have always had the talent.

[TBuccaneerfan]

come april, that "baby" will have more money than you'll see in your life so i guess that "baby" will just have to cry all the way to the bank.

And no, he didn't lose his #2 position in the draft
How does Lienart's jock smell?

[BucFanFromATL]

I'm prepared to see V.Young in NO next year. 2 mobile QB's in the same division, I sure hope our defense continues to stay quick.
Vince already said he's not entering the draft. I'm sure a lot of people will try to talk him into it, but he already told reporters as well as the longhorn fans that he will be back next year, as a longhorn. He said in his acceptance speach for his award in the game. So don't expect him to enter the draft this year...

I think after his national championship performance, he could possibly go Number 1. I mean the Texans have evrything besides a stable line and a great QB. They have a good RB in Davis, they have good WR in Johnson and Gaffney. Vince could be the missing peace.

But anyways...

[Rockaura74]

I'm definitely off the Leinart bandwagon after that comment. I hate prissy boys who whine when they lose.

That said...I hope we take Young, or trade down and snag a QB in the 2nd or 3rd.


I think Young is coming out, there was no talk a few weeks ago about sitting down with his family. Oh well, either way new Orleans will be lookin' good. I think Young may have bumped Leinert out of that #2 draft pick spot.

[TheBayouBullet]

I think Young may have bumped Leinert out of that #2 draft pick spot.

I certainly hope so! If he did...you guys better watch out in a few years ;)

[BucFanFromATL]

Young isn't coming out

[Rockaura74]

I certainly hope so! If he did...you guys better watch out in a few years ;)

Derrick Brooks is such a great spy versus Vick. I hope he can keep it up if you guys get Young. Derrick's had a sore hamstring this year, but I guess we gotta pray father time doesn't catch up wtih him.

[nolesfan4life]

Derrick Brooks is such a great spy versus Vick. I hope he can keep it up if you guys get Young. Derrick's had a sore hamstring this year, but I guess we gotta pray father time doesn't catch up wtih him.
brooks would have a better chance taking down young than vick

both are fast but young tries to use more power and breaking tackles, where michael is a guy whose way of avoiding is that he's infront of you one second, and within a split 2nd, has changed his direction and is trying to get around you\

which all plays into brooks' favor because he's a sure tackler

[Rockaura74]

Brooks is one of the best tacklers I have ever seen. How big is Young, he seems huge like Cullpepper out there on the field.

[FLA-ORGator666]

Maybe, but maybe not. Carmelo Anthony alluded to comeing back for a 2nd year at Syracuse after they won the NCAA final, but he still left. Young will have plenty of time to think about it, and I just think he will decide to come out. But really it could go either way right now.

[buccsmf1]

I was shocked by Matt's comments at the end, it was very childish. Seems to me he'd better get used to loosing games, especially with where he'll more than likely be drafted.

i wasnt shocked at all. ive hated this guys for a long time. he was asked if he could compare himself to 1 nfl quarterback who would it be, he said tom brady because matt considers himself cool and collected under pressure. not only did this idiot compare himself to the best quarterback in the nfl but he sucks under pressure. he should have lost the notre dame game when the idiot tried to run the ball in the endzone, got stopped at the 1, but made the best mistake of his life by fumbling the ball out of bounds to stop the clock.
again today in the last few seconds he runs around and wastes time instead of just heaving one in the endzone or getting rid of it faster for a long fg attempt. i hate that pompous idiot

[MarleyMon81]

What I didn't understand is why even after losing the NC game to Texas, ABC still interview two USC members, Pete and Leinart, after the game.

[CaptainCT]

Someone needs to teach USC how to play some defense.

[nolesfan4life]

i wasnt shocked at all. ive hated this guys for a long time. he was asked if he could compare himself to 1 nfl quarterback who would it be, he said tom brady because matt considers himself cool and collected under pressure. not only did this idiot compare himself to the best quarterback in the nfl but he sucks under pressure. he should have lost the notre dame game when the idiot tried to run the ball in the endzone, got stopped at the 1, but made the best mistake of his life by fumbling the ball out of bounds to stop the clock.
again today in the last few seconds he runs around and wastes time instead of just heaving one in the endzone or getting rid of it faster for a long fg attempt. i hate that pompous idiot
Tom Brady is the one NFL QB i would compare Leinert to.

Both QBs aren't exactly the most physically gifted QBs, but both find ways to win games in the end.

And how could you say he's not calm and collective. I guess you didn't watch the ND game were on 4th down on the final drive, he threw a deep ball on the money to Jarrett setting up that ending.

He is calm and collective and great under pressure, and yes, all the experts when they come out with their player profiles will have Leinert compared to brady

[Betsy]

after USC lost they interviewed Matt and what he said was tottally classless. Talking about even though they loss USC was still better then Texas, then walking off while being interviewed.

I don't know what he said. I turned the channel after he said "you know" for the fifth time in one sentence.

[BugAhaBuc]

I was shocked by Matt's comments at the end, it was very childish. Seems to me he'd better get used to loosing games, especially with where he'll more than likely be drafted.

Shocked?
Why should it shock you?
He's a prima donna.
What shocked and sickened me, Texas wins, and do they rush to interview Mack?
Do they rush to interview Vince? NO, they rush to interview the darlings the media WANTED to win.
It's amazing the media bias for USC the entire game.

[Pewterslimsme]

I don't know what he said. I turned the channel after he said "you know" for the fifth time in one sentence.

You know, I noticed the same thing. You know how annoying that is!

[Betsy]

You know, I noticed the same thing. You know how annoying that is!
New one for the ignore list.
































You know?

[JustMeAdrian]

According to ESPN both Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush went to the Texas locker room to congratulate all the Texas players individually.

Sincerity may be an issue but I think it's a very impressive gesture none-the-less.

[SPQRBucs]

Vince Young just made a TON of money. If he does enter the draft, the Saints should definately draft him over Lienart.

Remember the last time that Saints started a QB with both a good arm and a good speed?

[FLA-ORGator666]

Remember the last time that Saints started a QB with both a good arm and a good speed?
haha, yeh I get what you're saying. And there will always be that question with mobile QBs, wether or not the just become Vick who is in his fith year and still cannot throw the ball with any kind of acuracy, or Aaron Brooks who just hasn't done anything that special in his time in the NFL. But the thing about Leinart that makes me a little unwary is the fact that the USC team has so much talent on it, I can't tell how good he really is. I mean, the entire USC line will be drafted, he has some great WRs, and two of the best running backs in all the NCAA.

[polar playboy]

Shocked?
Why should it shock you?
He's a prima donna.
What shocked and sickened me, Texas wins, and do they rush to interview Mack?
Do they rush to interview Vince? NO, they rush to interview the darlings the media WANTED to win.
It's amazing the media bias for USC the entire game.

They went to them because, that's who they had a chance at. Texas was going to the podium to have all the airtime they wanted when the accepted the crystal ball.

[polar playboy]

But the thing about Leinart that makes me a little unwary is the fact that the USC team has so much talent on it, I can't tell how good he really is. I mean, the entire USC line will be drafted, he has some great WRs, and two of the best running backs in all the NCAA.

So does- Peyton now, Aikman in the 90's, Montana/Young in the 80's/90's, Bradshaw in the 70's. That point gets pretty worn for Leinart, but look what any great player does without a great supporting cast... not much!

[PetePierson]

Lienart is a little cry baby and as posted in another thread, will be just like Ken Dorsey but with a slightly stronger arm. He already looks like he is getting out of shape. At least we don't have to hear about USC for a while, now the media with throw Texas's 20 game (or whatever it is) win streak down our throats.

[NewBetterBucs05]

Horrible speech by Matt. I hope he realizes that was a horrible speech. But as said b4 he is not used 2 losing and can't take it it seems like.

[buccsmf1]

Tom Brady is the one NFL QB i would compare Leinert to.

Both QBs aren't exactly the most physically gifted QBs, but both find ways to win games in the end.

And how could you say he's not calm and collective. I guess you didn't watch the ND game were on 4th down on the final drive, he threw a deep ball on the money to Jarrett setting up that ending.

He is calm and collective and great under pressure, and yes, all the experts when they come out with their player profiles will have Leinert compared to brady

guess you didnt watch the last 10 seconds when he should have lost by getting stopped on the one and fumbled. i guess you also missed when he needed bush to performe an illegal aiding over the goal line move so that lineart could get in. i guess you also didnt watch the end of the texas game when he wasted the last 10 seconds by running around instead of getting ride of it faster or throwing a hail merry. :confusedr

and as for brady not being physically talented did u fail to notice that he LEAD THE LEAGUE IN PASSING YARDS. where do u get your football knowledge?

[CSG]

guess you didnt watch the last 10 seconds when he should have lost by getting stopped on the one and fumbled. i guess you also missed when he needed bush to performe an illegal aiding over the goal line move so that lineart could get in. i guess you also didnt watch the end of the texas game when he wasted the last 10 seconds by running around instead of getting ride of it faster or throwing a hail merry. :confusedr

and as for brady not being physically talented did u fail to notice that he LEAD THE LEAGUE IN PASSING YARDS. where do u get your football knowledge?


Notice where he is from???that should tell you all you need to know about his football knowledge.......HE HAS NONE

[nolesfan4life]

guess you didnt watch the last 10 seconds when he should have lost by getting stopped on the one and fumbled. i guess you also missed when he needed bush to performe an illegal aiding over the goal line move so that lineart could get in. i guess you also didnt watch the end of the texas game when he wasted the last 10 seconds by running around instead of getting ride of it faster or throwing a hail merry. :confusedr
Matt Leinert had 2 career losses, 2 national championships, and a heisman trophy to go along with it. So there's a start to a pretty good track record.

Now to the ND game, Matt Leinert had a pressure situation with his team losing and it was 4th down. he then made a perfect pass for about 50 yards to dewayne jarrett to set them up for the ending. Showing your lack of football knowledge, its more on the shoulders of the OLine, rather than the QB when there's a goalline play where the QB is to go over the top. the line didn't get the greatest push on that play, forcing him to take it more outside. It wasn't his fault that his line couldn't get him that little hole to go through, yet he still ended up making the play.

As for the National championship game. You do know that he had 2 incomplete passes in the 2nd half, right. That right there shows that he was able to handle the pressure. USCs offense didn't lose the game, their defense did. USC was able to drive down the field on the UT defense easily, but they stepped up on some crucial plays at the end to get the ball back.

Saying Matt Leinert isn't a pressure QB is just the most rediculous thing i've ever heard. saying he's not because of one play, is dumb.

and as for brady not being physically talented did u fail to notice that he LEAD THE LEAGUE IN PASSING YARDS. where do u get your football knowledge?
Oh funny, i didn't know that you had to be the most physically gifted at the QB position to lead the NFL in passing yards. Because if i'm not mistaken, i'd say the most physically gifted QB in the NFL is Donovan McNabb. If you knew **** about football, you'd know that Brady isn't the most physically gifted but he relies on his brain(the thing between your ears) to make smart decisions and complete passes.

So lets see a reply to that

Notice where he is from???that should tell you all you need to know about his football knowledge.......HE HAS NONE
haven't i burned you already and you haven't even replied to that yet.

want me to go into it about cleveland being a football town?

i'm not trying to rip tampa, but to saying people from cleveland don't know football, shows your lack of knowledge

[NoAlibi]

I don't see what's so bad about what he said...It isn't always the best team that wins every game...Or is SF better than TB this season? I mean didn't Carson Palmer say after they lost to PIT that they were still the better team? And didn't they beat PIT the next time they played? And didn't CIN end up winning the AFC North?

In tournaments where you're one and done, the best team doesn't always win...But you congratulate the team that did and give them all their credit for their performance that day...USC is set to have 6 guys in the 1st round...Tell me the last time that's happened? MIA of 01...

What happened last night...Bush is still #1...Leinart/Young are #2, 3...Lendale White will be heading into the combines and workouts as the #2 or 3 RB in the draft...Winston Justice will be the second OL taken...Not to mention Bing and Steve Smith will both be 1st rounders as well...**** I wouldn't doubt Lutui and Frostee are 1st-2nd round also...

You listen or talk to pro scouts and they'll tell you...There's between 40 and 50 guys on USC who will be playing on Sunday..From this one team..Think about it.

[polar playboy]

I don't see what's so bad about what he said...It isn't always the best team that wins every game...Or is SF better than TB this season? I mean didn't Carson Palmer say after they lost to PIT that they were still the better team? And didn't they beat PIT the next time they played? And didn't CIN end up winning the AFC North?

In tournaments where you're one and done, the best team doesn't always win...But you congratulate the team that did and give them all their credit for their performance that day...USC is set to have 6 guys in the 1st round...Tell me the last time that's happened? MIA of 01...

What happened last night...Bush is still #1...Leinart/Young are #2, 3...Lendale White will be heading into the combines and workouts as the #2 or 3 RB in the draft...Winston Justice will be the second OL taken...Not to mention Bing and Steve Smith will both be 1st rounders as well...**** I wouldn't doubt Lutui and Frostee are 1st-2nd round also...

You listen or talk to pro scouts and they'll tell you...There's between 40 and 50 guys on USC who will be playing on Sunday..From this one team..Think about it.

Leinart haters do not want to recognize that or the fact that he also gave credit to Texas for "making the plays to win it at the end" in the very same interview. UT played better at the end, it doesn't make them the better overal team.

People tend to make up their minds about certain people and/or circumstances and will not be swayed (myself included from time to time).

[warrensappisgod]

USC is set to have 6 guys in the 1st round...Tell me the last time that's happened? MIA of 01...

What happened last night...Bush is still #1...Leinart/Young are #2, 3...Lendale White will be heading into the combines and workouts as the #2 or 3 RB in the draft...Winston Justice will be the second OL taken...Not to mention Bing and Steve Smith will both be 1st rounders as well...**** I wouldn't doubt Lutui and Frostee are 1st-2nd round also...

You listen or talk to pro scouts and they'll tell you...There's between 40 and 50 guys on USC who will be playing on Sunday..From this one team..Think about it.

No one can argue about Bush, Leinart, andWhite. Justice is a little questionable, but wil still be in the bottom half of the draft. Can't argue with Bing. Lutui in the 2nd I can see, not higher. Frostee is a nice player, but is closer to 4th round than he is to 1st. Mario Williams, Kiwanuka, Tambi Hali, Tapp, Dumervil, Stanley McClover now that he's entered. Rucker won't sniff the 1st round. Smith wouldn't be a 1st rounder if he entered this draft.

[NoAlibi]

No one can argue about Bush, Leinart, andWhite. Justice is a little questionable, but wil still be in the bottom half of the draft. Can't argue with Bing. Lutui in the 2nd I can see, not higher. Frostee is a nice player, but is closer to 4th round than he is to 1st. Mario Williams, Kiwanuka, Tambi Hali, Tapp, Dumervil, Stanley McClover now that he's entered. Rucker won't sniff the 1st round. Smith wouldn't be a 1st rounder if he entered this draft.


Yeah..I forgot all those DE's coming out...but as for Smith, what WR's will go ahead of him? That isn't rhetorical, I seriously have no idea who the senior WR's are except for Hagan from ASU...

Justice is probably the most talented OT in the nation...We'll just see where it all falls into play..He has character concerns for sure..I actually think he should stay but he's more certain to leave than Bush..

[SuperFly]

With two Heisman Trophy winners on USC's offense, I must say that they have a damn good O-Line. Any of them entering the draft?

[The Future]

Brooks is one of the best tacklers I have ever seen. How big is Young, he seems huge like Cullpepper out there on the field.
Young is WR in the NFL, I dont agree with him as a QB. Lienart didnt lose the #2 spot Young wont declare for the Draft he wants to go back to college.

[NoAlibi]

With two Heisman Trophy winners on USC's offense, I must say that they have a damn good O-Line. Any of them entering the draft?


the left guard is a senior, and probably the best lineman on the team...Tatusi Latui..

The RT is perhaps the most purely talented OL in the nation, but has a few character concerns...but he will declare for the draft as well...that's 2..the other three are staying.

[buccsmf1]

Matt Leinert had 2 career losses, 2 national championships, and a heisman trophy to go along with it. So there's a start to a pretty good track record.

Now to the ND game, Matt Leinert had a pressure situation with his team losing and it was 4th down. he then made a perfect pass for about 50 yards to dewayne jarrett to set them up for the ending. Showing your lack of football knowledge, its more on the shoulders of the OLine, rather than the QB when there's a goalline play where the QB is to go over the top. the line didn't get the greatest push on that play, forcing him to take it more outside. It wasn't his fault that his line couldn't get him that little hole to go through, yet he still ended up making the play.

As for the National championship game. You do know that he had 2 incomplete passes in the 2nd half, right. That right there shows that he was able to handle the pressure. USCs offense didn't lose the game, their defense did. USC was able to drive down the field on the UT defense easily, but they stepped up on some crucial plays at the end to get the ball back.

Saying Matt Leinert isn't a pressure QB is just the most rediculous thing i've ever heard. saying he's not because of one play, is dumb.


Oh funny, i didn't know that you had to be the most physically gifted at the QB position to lead the NFL in passing yards. Because if i'm not mistaken, i'd say the most physically gifted QB in the NFL is Donovan McNabb. If you knew **** about football, you'd know that Brady isn't the most physically gifted but he relies on his brain(the thing between your ears) to make smart decisions and complete passes.

So lets see a reply to that


haven't i burned you already and you haven't even replied to that yet.

want me to go into it about cleveland being a football town?

i'm not trying to rip tampa, but to saying people from cleveland don't know football, shows your lack of knowledge

haha, just cause donovan can run you think hes a more gifted QUARTERBACK? what a joke. brady averages more yards per season, better comp %, more touchdowns per season, and has a better passer rating. so your baseing your whole "more gifting" thing on the fact that donovan can run around i guess...... brady is a more gifted QUARTERBACK. just cause u can run doesnt make u a gifted quarterback. hell vick is a better athelite than donovan but that doesnt make him a more gifted quarterback, vick would be better playing cornerback.

and back the whole compareing himself to brady thing. brady did all this with virtually no supporting cast at all. he NEVER had a star on his offense until dillon came along to help win sb #3. lienart is playing on a pro team that plays against college teams. scouts look at usc's roster and tell you that EVERY SINGLE PERSON on their offense could go pro.

please open your eyes and stop telling yourself that cry baby lienart is compareable to tom brady.

haha, just looked up and noalbi further proves my point, 6 trojans will go in the first round and there is 40-50 people on their roster going pro.

[NoAlibi]

haha, just cause donovan can run you think hes a more gifted QUARTERBACK? what a joke. brady averages more yards per season, better comp %, more touchdowns per season, and has a better passer rating. so your baseing your whole "more gifting" thing on the fact that donovan can run around i guess...... brady is a more gifted QUARTERBACK. just cause u can run doesnt make u a gifted quarterback. hell vick is a better athelite than donovan but that doesnt make him a more gifted quarterback, vick would be better playing cornerback.

and back the whole compareing himself to brady thing. brady did all this with virtually no supporting cast at all. he NEVER had a star on his offense until dillon came along to help win sb #3. lienart is playing on a pro team that plays against college teams. scouts look at usc's roster and tell you that EVERY SINGLE PERSON on their offense could go pro.

please open your eyes and stop telling yourself that cry baby lienart is compareable to tom brady.

haha, just looked up and noalbi further proves my point, 6 trojans will go in the first round and there is 40-50 people on their roster going pro.


Yeah the whole offense will be in the NFL...all 5 linemen, David Kirtman, Bush, Jarrett, Byrd, Smith, Leinart...And their back-up RB is the #2 RB in the nation...Not to mention...Patrick Turner, Fred Davis, Whitney Lewis, Michael Coleman, Herschel Dennis, Chris McFoy, JD Booty, Mark Sanchez, Bing, Rucker, Larry Jackson, Luwan Ramsey, Oscar Lua, Rey, Cushing, terrell Thomas, Scott Ware, Justin Wyatt, Keith Rivers...that's 31...And I'm just not thinking straight for the others...Now, they won't all be STARS probably won't even all make it past 2-3 years in the league...but it is believed that on the current roster 40 or so will be drafted..

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haha, just cause donovan can run you think hes a more gifted QUARTERBACK? what a joke. brady averages more yards per season, better comp %, more touchdowns per season, and has a better passer rating. so your baseing your whole "more gifting" thing on the fact that donovan can run around i guess...... brady is a more gifted QUARTERBACK. just cause u can run doesnt make u a gifted quarterback. hell vick is a better athelite than donovan but that doesnt make him a more gifted quarterback, vick would be better playing cornerback.
how can you say brady is the most physically gifted athlete?
is he the fastest? NO
Does he have the best arm? NO
Does he have the best accuracy? NO
Is he the most elusive? NO

To start, Donavon is faster, has a stronger arm, and is more elusive. Brett Favre even ranks higher than Brady does in all 4 of those stats.

The thing that makes Brady the winner that he is, is the thing inbetween his ears. Tom Brady is one of the smartest QBs on the field in the NFL. He makes smart decisions, and has enough physical abilities to get the ball down to the WR. That does not make him the most physically gifted QB by any means.

and back the whole compareing himself to brady thing. brady did all this with virtually no supporting cast at all. he NEVER had a star on his offense until dillon came along to help win sb #3. lienart is playing on a pro team that plays against college teams. scouts look at usc's roster and tell you that EVERY SINGLE PERSON on their offense could go pro.

please open your eyes and stop telling yourself that cry baby lienart is compareable to tom brady.

haha, just looked up and noalbi further proves my point, 6 trojans will go in the first round and there is 40-50 people on their roster going pro.
lets start by asking what QB you would compare him to?

Also, if you knew anything about football, you don't need superstars to win you a SB. Just look at how many SB rings Owens, Moss, Manning, McNabb, tiki barber, tomlinson, Shaun Alexander, and Hines Ward have. that would be a big fat 0 for all of them combined. You should know that what made the patriots successful was their ability to not play like individuals, but play as a team.

What does playing playing on a team with talent have to do with anything. Sure it gives him some extra options, but he's still a smart enough QB to hit the open WR. Leinert will be the 1st QB taken in the NFL, and will be a star on the next level.

Saying otherwise shows you know jack **** about football, the kid is a prototypical QB for the NFL. Great size, solid arm, great Accuracy, and very intelligent. He makes smart decisions on the field, which is what NFL coaches are looking for.

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To start, Donavon is faster, has a stronger arm, and is more elusive.

LOL EXACTLY WHAT I SAID BEFORE. being fast and having the ability to throw the ball far DOES NOT MAKE YOU A GIFTED QUARTERBACK. dont these traits sound alot like a guy named vick? he runs a 4.2 40 and can throw the ball 80 yards but this does not make him a physically gifted QUARTERBACK.

and you have failed to reply about matts fumble outta bounds against the irish that should have lost them the game. i guess that would fall between the, "what he has between his ears" thing huh? they shouldnt have even been undefeated if he hadnt made the best mistake of his life.

brady is also not an arrogant little prick like matt is. the only thing he has to say after the texas game is, "we're a better team but they made bigger plays." the basically saying me and my team are better but they got lucky.



Also, if you knew anything about football, you don't need superstars to win you a SB. Just look at how many SB rings Owens, Moss, Manning, McNabb, tiki barber, tomlinson, Shaun Alexander, and Hines Ward have. that would be a big fat 0 for all of them combined. You should know that what made the patriots successful was their ability to not play like individuals, but play as a team.

What does playing playing on a team with talent have to do with anything. Sure it gives him some extra options, but he's still a smart enough QB to hit the open WR. Leinert will be the 1st QB taken in the NFL, and will be a star on the next level.

Saying otherwise shows you know jack **** about football, the kid is a prototypical QB for the NFL. Great size, solid arm, great Accuracy, and very intelligent. He makes smart decisions on the field, which is what NFL coaches are looking for.

hahah, this point is a joke as well. it only solidifies my point that brady is above and beyond this little prick lienart. brady has been one of the only players in recent history to win a sb without stars. lets take a little look at the past sb winners.

tampa bay- defense absolutely loaded with stars, offense has good names too
baltimore- defense loaded with stars
st louis- dont even get me started on this teams talent
denver- elway, a 2000 yard rusher, dont think i need to say more
green bay- stacked as well
dallas- hahah this team was like the yankees
the list does on and on....

to win a sb you need talent and the ability to play as a team. all of these teams had both of these traits but 1 guys team lacked the talent thing.

and who has been there winning 3 outta 4 with little to no talent? tom brady. and your trying to compare lienart, who plays on a pro team playing against college teams, to tom brady? im not going to bother replying to anything else you have to say because your obviously an idiot.

[nolesfan4life]

LOL EXACTLY WHAT I SAID BEFORE. being fast and having the ability to throw the ball far DOES NOT MAKE YOU A GIFTED QUARTERBACK. dont these traits sound alot like a guy named vick? he runs a 4.2 40 and can throw the ball 80 yards but this does not make him a physically gifted QUARTERBACK.
When talking about the most gifted QB, a QBs smarts does come into play. But if you actually read my original post talking about him in comparison to brady, you would've seen that my exact comment was "
Both QBs aren't exactly the most physically gifted QBs, but both find ways to win games in the end." Stating directly in there that i wasn't talking about smarts, i was talking about their physical talents(thats arm strength, speed, and agility). Taking smarts into it, yes, brady is one of the most gifted QBs in the NFL, but i was talking about their physical talents.

and you have failed to reply about matts fumble outta bounds against the irish that should have lost them the game. i guess that would fall between the, "what he has between his ears" thing huh? they shouldnt have even been undefeated if he hadnt made the best mistake of his life.
it should have cost them the game. But did it? He got the W on the board for USC, what a winning QB would do.

brady is also not an arrogant little prick like matt is. the only thing he has to say after the texas game is, "we're a better team but they made bigger plays." the basically saying me and my team are better but they got lucky.
That may be half right. USC on paper is the better team, but Texas came out and played the better game. Its the saying, on Any Given day, any one team can beat another. I guess you failed to read that after all of that, him and reggie bush went to the Texas locker room and congratulated each and every player personally. yea, sounds arrogant :rolleyes:

hahah, this point is a joke as well. it only solidifies my point that brady is above and beyond this little prick lienart. brady has been one of the only players in recent history to win a sb without stars. lets take a little look at the past sb winners.

tampa bay- defense absolutely loaded with stars, offense has good names too
baltimore- defense loaded with stars
st louis- dont even get me started on this teams talent
denver- elway, a 2000 yard rusher, dont think i need to say more
green bay- stacked as well
dallas- hahah this team was like the yankees
the list does on and on....

to win a sb you need talent and the ability to play as a team. all of these teams had both of these traits but 1 guys team lacked the talent thing.

and who has been there winning 3 outta 4 with little to no talent? tom brady. and your trying to compare lienart, who plays on a pro team playing against college teams, to tom brady? im not going to bother replying to anything else you have to say because your obviously an idiot.
Without Stars?

Seymour
Bruschi
Vrabel
Law
McGinest
Harrison

How can you say there aren't any stars?

plus other standouts like Eugene Wilson, Roosevelt Colvin. And thats just on defense. Not to mention one of the better DCs at the time in Romeo Crennel and one of the most underrated OCs at the time in Charlie Weis.

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