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$mokey
01-12-2006, 06:58 PM
If Mike Alstott decides to retire do you think we should take a look at LenDale White? I realize that we need other postions too such as a linebacker but I think Jon Gruden would find him hard to pass up.

CaddyHovan95
01-12-2006, 06:59 PM
He will not fall to 23rd he will be at least a top 13 pick.....

Brownsfan27
01-12-2006, 07:03 PM
i think that if a Lendale White type of player was to fall to 23rd even if you have other needs you would be crazy not to take him.

skreignman40
01-12-2006, 07:10 PM
no thanks. we already have a running back and i would never take a FB in the first round. we also have pittman... getting these guys that can run is all fine and dandy if you actually have a set line that they can run behind.

$mokey
01-12-2006, 07:14 PM
He will not fall to 23rd he will be at least a top 13 pick.....

True but their is a lot of good quality RB's coming out this year he may fall that far you never know. All of these will probably go in the first round.

Reggie Bush RB USC
DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
LenDale White RB USC
Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
Brian Calhoun RB Wisconsin

skreignman40
01-12-2006, 07:17 PM
it all depends on who the texans coach is, if they get kubiak then getting reggie bush would be a waist of a pick. he can make any running back really good.

Bucsfan24
01-12-2006, 07:50 PM
wat does it matter if alstott retires isnt lendal white a running back. i mean i would love to have him on my team but wat does it matter if alstott retires is my ?

$mokey
01-12-2006, 09:53 PM
wat does it matter if alstott retires isnt lendal white a running back. i mean i would love to have him on my team but wat does it matter if alstott retires is my ?


Well why would we use that pick for a RB since we have more burning issues to address if Mike stays? Thats why I mentioned it LenDale White would be our Full Back replacing Mike for the goal line situations.

Bucsfan24
01-12-2006, 10:16 PM
Well why would we use that pick for a RB since we have more burning issues to address if Mike stays? Thats why I mentioned it LenDale White would be our Full Back replacing Mike for the goal line situations.

is he bi enough to play fullback can he block well.

$mokey
01-12-2006, 11:36 PM
#21 LenDale White RB Height: 6'2" Weight: 235

He can pack on a few pounds and I believe he can block, Mike wasn't the best blocker until the last few years.

Kazz
01-13-2006, 02:06 PM
Why the hell would you draft a college running back to be a fullback?
I'm sure that would go over real well with he and Caddy. :lol:

sackattack97
01-13-2006, 03:33 PM
Well why would we use that pick for a RB since we have more burning issues to address if Mike stays? Thats why I mentioned it LenDale White would be our Full Back replacing Mike for the goal line situations.

Why in the world would we use our 1st round pick to take him when we need an offensive lineman more . Hey and what about Jameel Cook? He's a solid enough fullback if Mike leaves. Good blocker with some pass catching skills

$mokey
01-13-2006, 10:48 PM
Why in the world would we use our 1st round pick to take him when we need an offensive lineman more . Hey and what about Jameel Cook? He's a solid enough fullback if Mike leaves. Good blocker with some pass catching skills

This is Gruden we are talking about guys.. Jameel Cook are you serious? He doesn't exactly carry the ball much 3 carries in 5 years and he has hands of bricks. We need him to punch holes in the line like he has for years for the other RB's thats what Jameel Cook is good at.

england
01-14-2006, 06:46 AM
I think LenDale White will be better in the NFL than Bush.

caddy&clayton
01-14-2006, 10:27 AM
The idea is for Lendale White to be a POWER RUNNER, like Mike. Jameel Cook would start at FB, and White would be a goal line carrier, and Razzano would sit in a corner w/his dunce cap on because of his steroid use.

$mokey
01-14-2006, 03:16 PM
The idea is for Lendale White to be a POWER RUNNER, like Mike. Jameel Cook would start at FB, and White would be a goal line carrier, and Razzano would sit in a corner w/his dunce cap on because of his steroid use.


Bingo at least one person understands what I am saying. LOL
Razzano would be in the locker room getting injected in the *** by Conseco though.

nolesfan4life
01-14-2006, 05:20 PM
i don't think tampa would take him, just because looking back to two years ago:

The bucs had a shot at Stephen Jackson, and took Clayton over him.

If Gruden wanted a bigger back that could run people over, he would've did it then

JudgeDredd
01-16-2006, 02:06 AM
True but their is a lot of good quality RB's coming out this year he may fall that far you never know. All of these will probably go in the first round.

Reggie Bush RB USC
DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
LenDale White RB USC
Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
Brian Calhoun RB Wisconsin
Bingo. Even if he does fall to us I don't see us taking him. I can see Pitt getting him. Parker/White is a deadly and YOUNG combination.

NoAlibi
01-16-2006, 04:39 AM
Bingo. Even if he does fall to us I don't see us taking him. I can see Pitt getting him. Parker/White is a deadly and YOUNG combination.


Lendale White is going to GB at #5...And that's the biggest lock of the draft.

NoAlibi
01-16-2006, 04:42 AM
I think LenDale White will be better in the NFL than Bush.


Based on what? Seriously...What do you know of either of them?

I like Lendale a lot..and he's a great kid..Reggie Bush is in another class when it comes to talent on the football field.

nolesfan4life
01-16-2006, 04:50 AM
Lendale White is going to GB at #5...And that's the biggest lock of the draft.
i don't really have anything against lendale white, i was high on him for a few years now. But if GB passed on DeAngelo Williams for Lendale White, that would be as stupid as taking mike vick over ladainian tomlinson, plus another pick given

$mokey
01-16-2006, 12:43 PM
Lendale White is going to GB at #5...And that's the biggest lock of the draft.

I disagree with that. Their are a lot of Free Agent running backs to consider as well. Here is just some of the decent to great free agent running backs this year. I excluded the ones on the packers..

Antowain Smith
Chester Taylor
DeShaun Foster
Edgerrin James
Jamal Lewis
Michael Bennett
Moe Williams
Ron Dayne
Shaun Alexander
Shawn Bryson
Verron Haynes

NoAlibi
01-16-2006, 06:41 PM
I disagree with that. Their are a lot of Free Agent running backs to consider as well. Here is just some of the decent to great free agent running backs this year. I excluded the ones on the packers..

Antowain Smith
Chester Taylor
DeShaun Foster
Edgerrin James
Jamal Lewis
Michael Bennett
Moe Williams
Ron Dayne
Shaun Alexander
Shawn Bryson
Verron Haynes

Here's a list of the FA RB's better than White, that will be unlikely to return to their team:

$mokey
01-16-2006, 07:19 PM
Here's a list of the FA RB's better than White, that will be unlikely to return to their team:

Better? You really can't compare yet since he hasn't played a down yet in the NFL. I wouldn't mind having a few off the list though. :)

The Future
01-16-2006, 07:30 PM
True but their is a lot of good quality RB's coming out this year he may fall that far you never know. All of these will probably go in the first round.

Reggie Bush RB USC
DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
LenDale White RB USC
Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
Brian Calhoun RB Wisconsin
Calhoun wont go in first 2 rounds, Maroney just isnt an NFL RB at all. White and Williams are the best in my mind.

$mokey
01-17-2006, 10:03 AM
or could we sign...then trade to get a need?

That could be a possobility but usually that only happens to teams that have a top 5 pick. By the time we pick at #23 or #24 I can't remember for sure what our number is, their is only 8 or 9 teams that haven't had the chance to draft him. Never say never though. :)

BearLandBucFan
01-18-2006, 03:11 PM
He will not fall to 23rd he will be at least a top 13 pick.....


don't be so sure about that. Demario and Laurence should have better combines as they have the "athletic abilities" that teams will go goo goo for come April.

Think about it... if Brown hadn't had a sensational Combine think he would have even been drafted in top 10? maybe, but chances are probably not...

then look at Rodgers... hmmm.. wasn't he drafted around where we are now... ;)

White may very well be there. I could see us taking a chance on him


personally I think we need WR, LB, or DE at #23 here

and no not an OT... you can draft very comparable OT's in 2nd and 3rd Rounds

Unless the OT/OG is going to be ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL, which generally isn't the case at the position, you pick a game changer.

nolesfan4life
01-18-2006, 05:03 PM
don't be so sure about that. Demario and Laurence should have better combines as they have the "athletic abilities" that teams will go goo goo for come April.

Think about it... if Brown hadn't had a sensational Combine think he would have even been drafted in top 10? maybe, but chances are probably not...

then look at Rodgers... hmmm.. wasn't he drafted around where we are now... ;)

White may very well be there. I could see us taking a chance on him


personally I think we need WR, LB, or DE at #23 here

and no not an OT... you can draft very comparable OT's in 2nd and 3rd Rounds

Unless the OT/OG is going to be ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL, which generally isn't the case at the position, you pick a game changer.
1st of all, you mean DeAngelo, not Demario, but as of now, DeAngelo Williams is the #2 back in the draft. And then its close between Maroney and White for the 3rd best back.


If he was there at 23, i don't think the bucs would take him, because remember back two years, when the bucs had a shot at a better RB, a physical back who could run over or around people. And they passed on Stephen Jackson for Michael Clayton, and that was before they had Cadillac Williams. I really don't see tampa taking an RB here, it just wouldn't make much sense.

JudgeDredd
01-18-2006, 05:24 PM
Better? You really can't compare yet since he hasn't played a down yet in the NFL. I wouldn't mind having a few off the list though. :)
Bingo. You can't compare a player that hasnt done a thing to a pro. You can compare what they can DO for a team, becuase that's future, hypothetical, potential talk.

I don't see how GB is a lock for White. Explain this please. Williams is a killer DE and should e around in #5. AJ Hawk will likely be there as well. Not to mention they have good promise in Gado. With all these factors I say locking GB on white AT the #5 spot is jumping the gun... a lot.

BearLandBucFan
01-19-2006, 03:04 AM
1st of all, you mean DeAngelo, not Demario, but as of now, DeAngelo Williams is the #2 back in the draft. And then its close between Maroney and White for the 3rd best back.


If he was there at 23, i don't think the bucs would take him, because remember back two years, when the bucs had a shot at a better RB, a physical back who could run over or around people. And they passed on Stephen Jackson for Michael Clayton, and that was before they had Cadillac Williams. I really don't see tampa taking an RB here, it just wouldn't make much sense.


I agree with you. But if the top players on our board are gone, Gruden might do it, especially if Pittman and Alstott are gone.

But yeah. I think there should be plenty of players still on our board to make this far-fetched.

NoAlibi
01-20-2006, 04:25 PM
Bingo. You can't compare a player that hasnt done a thing to a pro. You can compare what they can DO for a team, becuase that's future, hypothetical, potential talk.

I don't see how GB is a lock for White. Explain this please. Williams is a killer DE and should e around in #5. AJ Hawk will likely be there as well. Not to mention they have good promise in Gado. With all these factors I say locking GB on white AT the #5 spot is jumping the gun... a lot.


Look at that list...If Lendale White doesn't have a better career than 80% of them, he will be considered a bust...Moe Williams? Guy is a back-up at best....Oh, now we get the inamous Samkon Gado reference...I agree, they won't take a RB early, because they have Samkon Gado.

The folks at GB have expressed similar interest in White that HOU has in Bush..we'll see what that means come april..

LONGDOG
01-20-2006, 10:44 PM
ide rather take joseph addai from lsu. you guys follow the hype too much and dont watch all the games. lendale white is not a bruiser, nor does he have break away speed. he went to a school with an elite football program. he is at best an average back.

JudgeDredd
01-20-2006, 11:44 PM
Look at that list...If Lendale White doesn't have a better career than 80% of them, he will be considered a bust...Moe Williams? Guy is a back-up at best....Oh, now we get the inamous Samkon Gado reference...I agree, they won't take a RB early, because they have Samkon Gado.

The folks at GB have expressed similar interest in White that HOU has in Bush..we'll see what that means come april..
Williams the DE! A back up at best? He's a beast! Wouldn't surprise meif he went to the Packers.


LONGDOG is right. Addai from LSU would be a great pick up in the 2nd, and IMO who the Jets should pick up if they dont trade down.

NoAlibi
01-21-2006, 04:44 AM
Williams the DE! A back up at best? He's a beast! Wouldn't surprise meif he went to the Packers.


LONGDOG is right. Addai from LSU would be a great pick up in the 2nd, and IMO who the Jets should pick up if they dont trade down.


No guy was talking about Moe Williams, RB from MIN....Look at the list of FA RB's...

JudgeDredd
01-21-2006, 10:48 AM
I know who HE was talking about, I WAS talking about Mario Williams DE coming into the draft. A dratee the Packers would take a serious look at. Than he thought I was talking about MO.


Mo is a back up, but that doesnt change what they'll do in the draft with great players like AJ Hawk, and Mario Williams there.

BucDown24
01-21-2006, 04:15 PM
why is anyone talking about taking lendale white, who are u trying to convince, us or urself? hes not gonna be there at the 23rd pick, come on now... anyways, we dont need another back, look at what cadillac did his ROOKIE season...personally i think he might be the next LT, maybe not as good, but comparable... now about the draft, since we are majority of the times in a 2 tight end, 2 back formation, i think we should get Mercedes Lewis, that way we can have a mercedes and a cadillac. jk, but seriously he would fit well in our offense. alex smith was bad, get rid of becht, how old is he? too old if u ask me, our team is about youth, especially our offense....

$mokey
01-22-2006, 03:32 PM
why is anyone talking about taking lendale white, who are u trying to convince, us or urself? hes not gonna be there at the 23rd pick, come on now...

Again you forget Aaron Rogers....

BucDown24
01-22-2006, 09:02 PM
Again you forget Aaron Rogers....



y dont u read the rest of my comment before u start talking....just a suggestion but hey, if u want to sound stupid go ahead

$mokey
01-22-2006, 09:45 PM
personally i think he might be the next LT, maybe not as good, but comparable...

Yeah and I made myself sound dumb... :rotf:

now about the draft, since we are majority of the times in a 2 tight end, 2 back formation, i think we should get Mercedes Lewis, that way we can have a mercedes and a cadillac. jk, but seriously he would fit well in our offense. alex smith was bad, get rid of becht, how old is he? too old if u ask me, our team is about youth, especially our offense....

So you say not to draft a RB because we drafted one last year but you want us to draft a TE even though we drafted one last year? I don't care who we draft I trust Gruden in that area more than anything he has proven that he knows what he is doing there. The only reason I brought this topic up was because I believe IF White is there Gruden won't pass him up. Just a fun topic for discussion seeing that Alstott may not return. I would love to see him play one more year so we do not even have to think about White. lol

Yung-Buc-Ant
01-23-2006, 02:35 PM
It would be a wasted pick

Yung-Buc-Ant
01-23-2006, 02:39 PM
why is anyone talking about taking lendale white, who are u trying to convince, us or urself? hes not gonna be there at the 23rd pick, come on now... anyways, we dont need another back, look at what cadillac did his ROOKIE season...personally i think he might be the next LT, maybe not as good, but comparable... now about the draft, since we are majority of the times in a 2 tight end, 2 back formation, i think we should get Mercedes Lewis, that way we can have a mercedes and a cadillac. jk, but seriously he would fit well in our offense. alex smith was bad, get rid of becht, how old is he? too old if u ask me, our team is about youth, especially our offense....
What are you talking about. Alex was second in catches of all rookies this year. The most catches caught by a TB tight end in a while. Stop smoking the crack. Give me a stud OT and I'll be fine wit dat.

BucDown24
01-26-2006, 06:19 PM
my bad, what i meant was alex smith was GOOD bad, like slang u know? i shouldve been more clear with that.. but yea i do agree with that, an OL would be great, but who do u think we could get?

BucDown24
01-26-2006, 06:23 PM
So you say not to draft a RB because we drafted one last year but you want us to draft a TE even though we drafted one last year? I don't care who we draft I trust Gruden in that area more than anything he has proven that he knows what he is doing there. The only reason I brought this topic up was because I believe IF White is there Gruden won't pass him up. Just a fun topic for discussion seeing that Alstott may not return. I would love to see him play one more year so we do not even have to think about White. lol[/QUOTE]


lendale white is a running back, alstott is a full back, theyre positions u know? but i agree, i would rather have alstott, because hes been here his whole career and we know how good he is, becuase as of right now white hasnt proven himself. y I said mercedes was a little bias, i dont like becht very much, so i would like to see 2 good young tight ends who can block as well as catch.. but thats probably not gonna happen... y do u say gruden would take him if hes still there?

$mokey
01-26-2006, 09:33 PM
I say that because of Chucky's offensive mind. Remember in Oakland he had two different style running backs in Charlie Garner and Ty Wheatley. I think he would jump on White if he was available to give us that aspect as well. Remember Gruden rarely uses the FB except for blocking but he likes to use the 2 RB formation. I understand White is not a FB but he is a power runner and would be great between the tackles and in short yardage situations. Now you say you dislike Becht and I am 100% with you on this I would rather see someone else in there for our 2 TE sets. He is a decent blocker but has hands of bricks. lol

BucDown24
01-28-2006, 03:21 PM
oh most definitely! haha i really dont like him, we dont have any future with him... but i do like what u said about white.. u kinda influenced my opinion on that issue.. now to think about it, it would be pretty cool to have 2 different style running backs in our lineup, seeing how time of possession wins games, and a running attack can the kill the clock in the 4th quarter when we have the lead... so i do see what ur saying, well put. would u pick him over an OL? if there are any good left?

$mokey
01-29-2006, 03:52 AM
If White was available I would take him as well. I hate to use a first round pick on a lineman if he was on the board. Kenyatta Walker really made me dislike first round O-Line picks. Remember we traded up to get him so that Detroit wouldn't get him? They then drafted Jeff Backus who is now a Free Agent this year along with Kenyatta.