BUCS 2006 OFFENSE - REVISED BY FA'S & THE DRAFT

[STRICK-9]

After careful thought....this is what I would love to see our line-up look like next year. Please understand that this is merely hypothetical; however, I believe it's possible.

I'll also caveat this by saying I think we are set in the skill positions...hence a majority of these transactions pertain to our much needed revamped line.

I'll run thru each position and list the starters I want for next year with their respective back-ups in paranthesis. At the end I'll explain why I wanted certain acqusiitions and I'll look forward to any replies and/or comments from my bretheren. New acquisitions will also be placed in Bold Text.

WR: J. Galloway (P. Warren)
WR: M. Clayton (J.R. Russell)
3rd WR: I. Hillard (L. Brackins)

RB: Caddy (Pittman, Graham, Watson)
FB: Alstott (J. Cook)

QB: Simms (Rattay, McGown)

LT: M. McNeil (A. Davis)
LG: Steve Hutchinson (J. Terry)
C: LeCharles Bentley (J. Wade)
RG: D. Buenning (S. Mahan)
RT: C. Colmer (J. Terry)

Ideally our skill positions are set with an infusion of young talent....other than repacing Galloway with someone of equivalent speed...that can be addressed in 2007 or 2008.

I went with two Free Agent signings for the line...these positions are for less expensive as skill positions but make a dominant force in the passing game.

1) Steve Hutchinson, All-Pro LG from Seattle. This man is a beast, fairly young and could anchor the line for 5-10 years. We gain in both run & Pass blocking here.

2) LeCharles Bentley, All-Pro Center from New Orleans. This man is the best center in football.

NOTE: By moving Buenning to RG and acquiring these two interior linemen....our line would not sustain the blitz schemes and penetration up the gut that we were so susceptible to last year.

3) Acquire M. McNeil with the 23rd pick....I watched some Senior Bowl footage the last few nights and this kid was tearing up Nagata and Kiawanuka. Plus, he's showed a mean streak that I wasn't aware he had/possessed.

Lastly, I think Colmer can and will start next year. That allows us to keep our youth, especially Davis, as back-ups.

I'll work on a Defensive Plan if the feed back is somewhat accepticle.

Semper Fi

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[Greg in DC]

Hutchinson would be a great pickup but I don't think we are in a cap position to: 1. Sign Chris Simms, 2. Sign Hutchinson AND Bentley.

[UCFjayrod09]

I guess it all depends on who he thinks will be starting on our defense as to whether or not they could sign those guys. I have to say I wouldn't mind this lineup bc improving the line is going to make the skill players better. IDK if Colmer is ready to start yet but we will see come training camp.

[Q-man]

IMO, Hutchinson is a dream pick....not gonna happen!
Bentley would be great, but can Bucs afford him?
Also, I likes Beunning at LG, and would assume that
he has that spot locked down.
I like the LT from Auburn as 1st pick.
Your FB position needs to be addressed, as Atrain
will be gone and maybe Cook too!
Good conversation piece!

Go BUCS!

[Bradentonian]

I have serious concerns about McNeil at tackle. We already have a health-risk tackle project; we don't need another.

[STRICK-9]

I have serious concerns about McNeil at tackle. We already have a health-risk tackle project; we don't need another.


I certainly understand your concern about his spinal diagnosis:

The only problem is D-Brick will be gone, Justice is a head case and Scott, Trueblood and Whitworth are the same mold as Yatta and Davis....slow off the snap, beatible on edge rushes and not strong enough for leverage against power ends. The other route would be a tackle in Free Agency; however, after going after the aforementioned C & G....then the scenario would be a complete fabrication.

Another option I like would be to go after Hutchinson...keep Wade/Mahan at Center, sign a FA Tackle and move Davis to one of the Guard positions.....strong run blocker with support from Center and Tackle in passing protection.

Thanks for the reply.....

[Bradentonian]

I certainly understand your concern about his spinal diagnosis:

The only problem is D-Brick will be gone, Justice is a head case and Scott, Trueblood and Whitworth are the same mold as Yatta and Davis....slow off the snap, beatible on edge rushes and not strong enough for leverage against power ends. The other route would be a tackle in Free Agency; however, after going after the aforementioned C & G....then the scenario would be a complete fabrication.

Another option I like would be to go after Hutchinson...keep Wade/Mahan at Center, sign a FA Tackle and move Davis to one of the Guard positions.....strong run blocker with support from Center and Tackle in passing protection.

Thanks for the reply.....
Scott is doing very well at Senior Bowl training, and he's moving up on some draft boards. My concern with him is that he doesn't have a mean streak.

Your second scenario takes Buenning off the field, and he's shown he deserves a starting spot. As much as I like Hutch, if we have the luxury of moving Davis to guard, I think our depth there would be great.

I really like your idea of Bentley; a great center can make a huge difference. Can we afford both him and a FA tackle? Not sure if that would work out.

[Fightin Irish]

our O-Line would be amazing if that were the case. Although i would like to see Davis in the lineup somewhere.

[STRICK-9]

Sorry Bradentonian:
What I meant to say is if we didn't go after Hutch or Bentley....go after a FA Left or Right Tackle, move Colmer to the opposite side and have Davis as a LG since he played LT last year and Buenning as the RG. I prefer we go after a typical LT who can move to our Right side since Chris is a left handed QB. Hope that clarifies things....
Nonetheless, I just thought this line-up was doable and Davis at a guard spot seems very proficient/practicle to me.

[Bradentonian]

Sorry Bradentonian:
What I meant to say is if we didn't go after Hutch or Bentley....go after a FA Left or Right Tackle, move Colmer to the opposite side and have Davis as a LG since he played LT last year and Buenning as the RG. I prefer we go after a typical LT who can move to our Right side since Chris is a left handed QB. Hope that clarifies things....
Nonetheless, I just thought this line-up was doable and Davis at a guard spot seems very proficient/practicle to me.
I think Buenning and Davis would make great guards. The best part of that plan is that if we lose a tackle to injury, Davis can slide over and Terry can play guard. I'm not sold yet on Colmer, but hopefully he pans out.

[DaMayan]

McNeil would be good, but may also be gone. This Winston guy is more likely and looks like a good Pass blocker. McNeil is more of the Run blocker and just a mountain and thus a presence to be respected. McNeil would be my first choice right now.

[SPTBBucFan4Life]

I wouldn't be sold 100% either, but I think anything is better than K. Walker to me. That one home game against the Panthers was the last straw for me. You know, the one where I think he was called for 3 straight false starts. That sickened me.

[Confuzed Azn]

Who says Colmer is ready to start? The man has showed nothing yet. To have some of the guys you are talking about, we'd need to tear apart our defense limb from limb. Not trying to put your lineup down, it's just more fantasy and day dreaming rather than reality. Another note on McNeil, I actually think he's gonna do a Chris Simms as in scouts will say he goes first round but ends up in the third. This will probably be due to his Spinal Stenosis and lack of a mean streak and usage of leverage for blocking.

[BucAtl]

Couldn't we have picked up Hutchinson in 2001 if we had stayed put? We traded up to get Kenyatta that year.

[STRICK-9]

Couldn't we have picked up Hutchinson in 2001 if we had stayed put? We traded up to get Kenyatta that year.

I believe your correct but we need a tackle at that time and not a guard.

[BucAtl]

That just reinforces the point...you don't just draft for need...you draft the best player available...

[Fightin Irish]

That just reinforces the point...you don't just draft for need...you draft the best player available...
No, that would be stupid for teams to do, example Detriot. I see that worked out well for them. Gosh, it still amazes me how bad of a pick that was.

[BucDown24]

I wouldn't be sold 100% either, but I think anything is better than K. Walker to me. That one home game against the Panthers was the last straw for me. You know, the one where I think he was called for 3 straight false starts. That sickened me.


yea that ****ed me off too.. but u know he has been playing a lot better than a couple years back, i mean im still disappointed on how he didnt pan out, but at least hes getting better. would u get rid of him?

[GrudenJr47]

Yea, hutchinson is outta reach, I can almost bet that he will stay in Seattle if he gets a ring.

I'd definatley like to see the Tackle from Auburn or the Tackle from Texas with that 1st pick, as far as offense. In the 5th round, I would really like to see and would probably be a steal if we grab Vickers from Colorado to play fullback (If cook leaves).

As far as free agents, not a whole lot of cap room to get high profile guys. But if we get rid of Simeon (like I've been hearin, at least pawn him off for draft picks get some saftey help). I'd like to go after Antwan Randle El. He's consistent and super fast, would be a great pick up if Clayton flops again or Galloway gets hurt again. Ike Hilliard doesn't float my boat at all. If we get Antwan and Galloway is healthy, Clayton plays how he did when he was a rook, look for a lot of 3 WR sets with Alex Smith linein up at FB and TE. So many possibilites, wait for the draft and see what happens with the cap.

[SPTBBucFan4Life]

yea that ****ed me off too.. but u know he has been playing a lot better than a couple years back, i mean im still disappointed on how he didnt pan out, but at least hes getting better. would u get rid of him?

I think I would. He was playing somewhat better towards the end of the season, but he's very inconsistent. So, most likely, he'll be back to his bad ways again.

GrudenJr47, I'd also love to get Randle El. He can not only work out where you mentioned, but he could also help out in the return department.

[GrudenJr47]

I think I would. He was playing somewhat better towards the end of the season, but he's very inconsistent. So, most likely, he'll be back to his bad ways again.

GrudenJr47, I'd also love to get Randle El. He can not only work out where you mentioned, but he could also help out in the return department.
That's right, I forgot about that (don't ask me how or why) He could be our man to return a kick for a TD!

[JonCyn90]

GrudenJr47, I'd also love to get Randle El. He can not only work out where you mentioned, but he could also help out in the return department.
Randle El. can throw the ball too. Wasn't he a QB in collage?

[GrudenJr47]

Oh yea man! Indiana Hoosier baby!

[Psykes]

Jr47, might wanna edit that sig pic... you should go read the rules.

As for o-line, I don't see us getting Hutchinson or Bentley. I do see us getting O'Neil however, and I think we could even pull of Hartwig from Tenn. as RG if Davis doesn't work out there.

That leaves LT. I don't see us getting any great prospect/s there, so we'll have to cross our fingers and hope Colmer turns out to be at very least average. All we need from him is to stop some of those speedy pass rushers. If we solidify RG, and get O'Neil at RT, than we really won't need to run the ball behind Colmer often at all.

[Chirodoc]

The Bucs do not have the cap room to aquire Hutchinson or Bentley. They can add a guard or a tackle in ther draft and hopefully he can step in and start from day one

[bluetick14]

Yea, hutchinson is outta reach, I can almost bet that he will stay in Seattle if he gets a ring.

I'd definatley like to see the Tackle from Auburn or the Tackle from Texas with that 1st pick, as far as offense. In the 5th round, I would really like to see and would probably be a steal if we grab Vickers from Colorado to play fullback (If cook leaves).

As far as free agents, not a whole lot of cap room to get high profile guys. But if we get rid of Simeon (like I've been hearin, at least pawn him off for draft picks get some saftey help). I'd like to go after Antwan Randle El. He's consistent and super fast, would be a great pick up if Clayton flops again or Galloway gets hurt again. Ike Hilliard doesn't float my boat at all. If we get Antwan and Galloway is healthy, Clayton plays how he did when he was a rook, look for a lot of 3 WR sets with Alex Smith linein up at FB and TE. So many possibilites, wait for the draft and see what happens with the cap.

I completely agree, I would love to see this. They will not have the money to get L. Bentley or S. Hutchinson. Senior Bowl reports that the Bucs were scouting OG heavily. I think they will take a tackle and guard early this draft.

I would like to see Rice go for two picks in this year's draft and maybe a prospect at CB or S. But if he leaves, the depth at DE will take a big hit. I also have heard reports of G. Spires and E. Wyms of being Cap Casualities. Tampa already lost Rod Marinelli and not to mention that C. Hovan is a FA. The D-line could look completely different in 06 or worse the level of performance could drop considerably. M. Kiffen would have a fit....... :mad:

I think Vickers is a MUST if A-train leaves. Here is what I would like to see as the Oline.

LT-C. Colmer A. Davis
LG-D. Buenning J. Terry
C-J. Wade S. Jackson
RG-D. Joseph (Okla) S. Mahan
RT-M. McNeil (Auburn) A. Davis

Duece Lutui (USC) is also an option to draft at guard. He impressed at the Senior Bowl and was reportedly interviewed by Tampa.
A. Davis could be moved to RG and I think would pair nicely with McNeil.
I would be surprised if Tampa does't try to bring in 2-3 tackles via draft/FA to prevent how shorthanded they were during training camp. The O-line is average at best and I would be disappointed if Gruden doesn't see the importance of making upgrades at least on the Right Side.

[tblightning]

This needs to be our O-Line next season

LT - Anthony Davis
LG -Dan Buenning
C -Sean Mahan
RG- Jeb Terry/ possibly hutchinson
RT- Marcus McNeill

[Hawxter19]

Personally, I'd like to see the Bucs get Winston Justice, and move Davis to RG with Colmer playing LT. Though, I doubt Justice will fall to #23.