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cwsloan
01-29-2006, 11:17 AM
This is a mock using info from nfldraftcountdown as well as results from the Senior Bowl...I think it looks pretty good, which means they are half rignt....

1 Houston Texans - Reggie Bush RB
2 New Orleans Saints - Matt Leinart QB
3 Tennessee Titans - Vince Young QB
4 New York Jets - D'Brick Ferguson OT
5 Green Bay Packers - Mario Williams DE
6 Oakland Raiders# - AJ Hawk LB
6 San Francisco 49ers - Demeco Ryans LB
8 Buffalo Bills - Halta Ngnati DT
9 Detroit Lions - Jay Cutler QB
10 Arizona Cardinals -Deangelo Williams RB
11 St. Louis Rams - Vernon Davis TE

The only other player in my opinion that gets in the top 11 that isnt here is CB Jimmy Williams, who SF could get instead of Demeco...
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12 Cleveland Browns - Chad Greenway LB
13 Baltimore Ravens - Jimmy Williams CB
14 Philadelphia Eagles Santonio Holmes WR
15 Atlanta Falcons - Michael Huff S
16 Miami Dolphins - Winston Justice OT
17 Minnesota Vikings - Lendale White RB
18 Dallas Cowboys - Marcus McNeil OT
19 San Diego Chargers - Ko Simpson S
20 Kansas City Chiefs - Tambo Hali DE
21 New England Patriots - Ashton Youboty DB
22 Denver (from Washington) - Mathias Kiwanuka
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23 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - alot of people say Eric Winston here but now the word is that Winston is a better 2nd rounder than first.....if you look at the best players availabe if the draft goes this way, which I think it will.....
-Eric Winston OT (Miami)
-Max Jean-Gills OG (Georgia)
-Darnell Bing S (USC)
-Tye Hill CB (Clemson)
-Ernie Simms ILB (Fla St.)
-Bernard Bunkley DT (Fla St.)
-Chad Jackson WR (Fla)
-Marcedes Lewis TE (UCLA)
We definitely wont get a QB or RB so no need to list....I guess if it were me I would go with Winston here...

24 Cincinnati Bengals - Tye Hill CB
25 New York Giants - Bernard Bunkley DT
26 Chicago Bears - Marcedes Lewis TE
27 Carolina Panthers - Leonard Pope TE
28 Jacksonville Jaguars - Antonio Cromartie DB
29 Denver Broncos - Chad Jackson WR
30 Indianapolis Colts - Thomas Howard ILB
31 Pittsburgh Steelers* - Laurence Maroney RB
32 Seattle Seahawks* - Darnell Bing S

Confuzed Azn
01-29-2006, 11:43 AM
No way Demeco goes top 10... or even firs round IMO. He did terrible at the senior bowl. He was the slowest LB there and all he had going for him was his instincts, which he did not show at all during the game. And another thing, why would Green Bay take Mario Williams when they have KGB and Kampman, top 5 DE duo.

UMiamiBucFan
01-29-2006, 12:12 PM
With those players on the board, no way I would pick Winston. He has yet to regain his pre-knee injury level of play. Max Jean-Gilles, Thomas Howard (he's an OLB and did pretty good at senior bowl), Darnell Bing (we might lose D Jax and Phillips can't stay healthy), Tye Hill, and Antonio Cromartie would all be a better pick than Winston. Remember this is coming from a University of Miami student and fan, I do not think Winston is first round material anymore. That knee injury really messed him up.

Faithwarrior
01-29-2006, 12:52 PM
This is a mock using info from nfldraftcountdown as well as results from the Senior Bowl...I think it looks pretty good, which means they are half rignt....

1 Houston Texans - Reggie Bush RB
2 New Orleans Saints - Matt Leinart QB
3 Tennessee Titans - Vince Young QB
4 New York Jets - D'Brick Ferguson OT
5 Green Bay Packers - Mario Williams DE
6 Oakland Raiders# - AJ Hawk LB
6 San Francisco 49ers - Demeco Ryans LB
8 Buffalo Bills - Halta Ngnati DT
9 Detroit Lions - Jay Cutler QB
10 Arizona Cardinals -Deangelo Williams RB
11 St. Louis Rams - Vernon Davis TE

The only other player in my opinion that gets in the top 11 that isnt here is CB Jimmy Williams, who SF could get instead of Demeco...
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12 Cleveland Browns - Chad Greenway LB
13 Baltimore Ravens - Jimmy Williams CB
14 Philadelphia Eagles Santonio Holmes WR
15 Atlanta Falcons - Michael Huff S
16 Miami Dolphins - Winston Justice OT
17 Minnesota Vikings - Lendale White RB
18 Dallas Cowboys - Marcus McNeil OT
19 San Diego Chargers - Ko Simpson S
20 Kansas City Chiefs - Tambo Hali DE
21 New England Patriots - Ashton Youboty DB
22 Denver (from Washington) - Mathias Kiwanuka
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23 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - alot of people say Eric Winston here but now the word is that Winston is a better 2nd rounder than first.....if you look at the best players availabe if the draft goes this way, which I think it will.....
-Eric Winston OT (Miami)
-Max Jean-Gills OG (Georgia)
-Darnell Bing S (USC)
-Tye Hill CB (Clemson)
-Ernie Simms ILB (Fla St.)
-Bernard Bunkley DT (Fla St.)
-Chad Jackson WR (Fla)
-Marcedes Lewis TE (UCLA)
We definitely wont get a QB or RB so no need to list....I guess if it were me I would go with Winston here...

24 Cincinnati Bengals - Tye Hill CB
25 New York Giants - Bernard Bunkley DT
26 Chicago Bears - Marcedes Lewis TE
27 Carolina Panthers - Leonard Pope TE
28 Jacksonville Jaguars - Antonio Cromartie DB
29 Denver Broncos - Chad Jackson WR
30 Indianapolis Colts - Thomas Howard ILB
31 Pittsburgh Steelers* - Laurence Maroney RB
32 Seattle Seahawks* - Darnell Bing S
I believe you mean Brodrick Bunkley. Sorry i just struggle looking past those kinds of things when i'm reading. I really think we need an stud RT in the first round.. i hope and pray that McNeil is there at 23.. that would be the best thing EVER. He is an absolute stud Tackle and Lord knows we need a guy like that on our line. I could be alright with Ernie Sims or Cromartie if McNeil wasn't there. I would pass on Bunkley tho, he is too small to be a DT in the NFL.. and he really didn't do anything in the Senior Bowl. I'd kind of like to get Wimbley in the second or third if he is there. He has a lot more upside than Bunkley.

cwsloan
01-29-2006, 01:03 PM
very good points...allow me to fix that...I forgot about Kampman but I knew about KGB....

I didnt know Demeco did that bad...but I still say he falls to late 1st but it will change things a bit....allow me to redo this mock then....

1 Houston Texans - Reggie Bush RB
2 New Orleans Saints - Matt Leinart QB
3 Tennessee Titans - Vince Young QB
4 New York Jets - D'Brick Ferguson OT
5 Green Bay Packers - Mario Williams DE
6 Oakland Raiders# - AJ Hawk LB
6 San Francisco 49ers - Jimmy Williams CB
8 Buffalo Bills - Halta Ngnati DT
9 Detroit Lions - Jay Cutler QB
10 Arizona Cardinals -Deangelo Williams RB
11 St. Louis Rams - Vernon Davis TE
12 Cleveland Browns - Chad Greenway LB
13 Baltimore Ravens - Michael Huff S
14 Philadelphia Eagles Santonio Holmes WR
15 Atlanta Falcons - Tambo Hali DE
16 Miami Dolphins - Winston Justice OT
17 Minnesota Vikings - Lendale White RB
18 Dallas Cowboys - Marcus McNeil OT
19 San Diego Chargers - Ko Simpson S
20 Kansas City Chiefs - Demeco Ryan ILB
21 New England Patriots - Ashton Youboty DB
22 Denver (from Washington) - Mathias Kiwanuka
23 Tampa Bay - Eric Winston
24 Cincinnati Bengals - Tye Hill CB
25 New York Giants - Bernard Bunkley DT
26 Chicago Bears - Marcedes Lewis TE
27 Carolina Panthers - Leonard Pope TE
28 Jacksonville Jaguars - Antonio Cromartie DB
29 Denver Broncos - Chad Jackson WR
30 Indianapolis Colts - Thomas Howard ILB
31 Pittsburgh Steelers* - Laurence Maroney RB
32 Seattle Seahawks* - Darnell Bing S

77Buc
01-29-2006, 01:42 PM
No love for Gabe Watson in the first round? Anyone with Michigan ties that can give us a background on this guy? He looked big, hostile and mobile at the Senior Bowl workouts. I thought this guy would be an ideal replacement for Booger (potential cap casualty). Then go with somebody like Cooledge or O'Callahan in the second round to bolster the O-tackle position.

All_da_way
01-29-2006, 01:51 PM
very good points...allow me to fix that...I forgot about Kampman but I knew about KGB....

I didnt know Demeco did that bad...but I still say he falls to late 1st but it will change things a bit....allow me to redo this mock then....

1 Houston Texans - Reggie Bush RB
2 New Orleans Saints - Matt Leinart QB
3 Tennessee Titans - Vince Young QB
4 New York Jets - D'Brick Ferguson OT
5 Green Bay Packers - Mario Williams DE
6 Oakland Raiders# - AJ Hawk LB
6 San Francisco 49ers - Jimmy Williams CB
8 Buffalo Bills - Halta Ngnati DT
9 Detroit Lions - Jay Cutler QB
10 Arizona Cardinals -Deangelo Williams RB
11 St. Louis Rams - Vernon Davis TE
12 Cleveland Browns - Chad Greenway LB
13 Baltimore Ravens - Michael Huff S
14 Philadelphia Eagles Santonio Holmes WR
15 Atlanta Falcons - Tambo Hali DE
16 Miami Dolphins - Winston Justice OT
17 Minnesota Vikings - Lendale White RB
18 Dallas Cowboys - Marcus McNeil OT
19 San Diego Chargers - Ko Simpson S
20 Kansas City Chiefs - Demeco Ryan ILB
21 New England Patriots - Ashton Youboty DB
22 Denver (from Washington) - Mathias Kiwanuka
23 Tampa Bay - Eric Winston
24 Cincinnati Bengals - Tye Hill CB
25 New York Giants - Bernard Bunkley DT
26 Chicago Bears - Marcedes Lewis TE
27 Carolina Panthers - Leonard Pope TE
28 Jacksonville Jaguars - Antonio Cromartie DB
29 Denver Broncos - Chad Jackson WR
30 Indianapolis Colts - Thomas Howard ILB
31 Pittsburgh Steelers* - Laurence Maroney RB
32 Seattle Seahawks* - Darnell Bing S

Just some points. :)

*As much as Raider fans would love to see Hawk in a Raider uni I do not think Al Davis likes taking LB's this high.

*I think Detroit will look for a vet FA QB to take over and use their first round pick on a trench player (OL/DL).

*Winston had a poor senior bowl game but that is not what teams are worried about. His knee has to check out or else he will drop like a rock.

*Bunkely to the Giants is possible but Coughlin prefers larger DT's so I am not so sure about that pick.

*Darnell Bing will go in the first round but the Seahawks have two young starting safties in Ken Hamlin and Michael Boulware. Marquand Manuel and Pruit are also young players. I think the Seahawks looks to address other areas of their team than safety IMVHO.

CSG
01-29-2006, 02:03 PM
Cutler WILL be gone by the 7th pick

Either to the Jets or Raiders IMHO if not to the Titans...... all 3 NEED a QB {Jets can't be to optimistic about Pennington being healthy and who have the Raiders got waiting in the wings????}

Bradentonian
01-29-2006, 02:09 PM
Cutler WILL be gone by the 7th pick

Either to the Jets or Raiders IMHO if not to the Titans...... all 3 NEED a QB {Jets can't be to optimistic about Pennington being healthy and who have the Raiders got waiting in the wings????}
Raiders really like the QB they picked up last year, Andrew Walter

Blue Devil
01-29-2006, 05:01 PM
Didn't read all the replies...so it might have been said already...but how the hell does Ryans go before Greenway???

TiM-GoBucs
01-29-2006, 05:21 PM
Ryans is one of the slowest and smallest linebackers in this years draft, I think he falls into the 2nd round if not later.

This years draft has so much depth that I think we should draft defense in the first, someone like Howard or Tye Hill.

chileno
01-29-2006, 06:05 PM
very good points...allow me to fix that...I forgot about Kampman but I knew about KGB....

I didnt know Demeco did that bad...but I still say he falls to late 1st but it will change things a bit....allow me to redo this mock then....

1 Houston Texans - Reggie Bush RB
2 New Orleans Saints - Matt Leinart QB
3 Tennessee Titans - Vince Young QB
4 New York Jets - D'Brick Ferguson OT
5 Green Bay Packers - Mario Williams DE
6 Oakland Raiders# - AJ Hawk LB
6 San Francisco 49ers - Jimmy Williams CB
8 Buffalo Bills - Halta Ngnati DT
9 Detroit Lions - Jay Cutler QB
10 Arizona Cardinals -Deangelo Williams RB
11 St. Louis Rams - Vernon Davis TE
12 Cleveland Browns - Chad Greenway LB
13 Baltimore Ravens - Michael Huff S
14 Philadelphia Eagles Santonio Holmes WR
15 Atlanta Falcons - Tambo Hali DE
16 Miami Dolphins - Winston Justice OT
17 Minnesota Vikings - Lendale White RB
18 Dallas Cowboys - Marcus McNeil OT
19 San Diego Chargers - Ko Simpson S
20 Kansas City Chiefs - Demeco Ryan ILB
21 New England Patriots - Ashton Youboty DB
22 Denver (from Washington) - Mathias Kiwanuka
23 Tampa Bay - Eric Winston
24 Cincinnati Bengals - Tye Hill CB
25 New York Giants - Bernard Bunkley DT
26 Chicago Bears - Marcedes Lewis TE
27 Carolina Panthers - Leonard Pope TE
28 Jacksonville Jaguars - Antonio Cromartie DB
29 Denver Broncos - Chad Jackson WR
30 Indianapolis Colts - Thomas Howard ILB
31 Pittsburgh Steelers* - Laurence Maroney RB
32 Seattle Seahawks* - Darnell Bing S

Switch picks 4 and 5...GB doesn't need a DE as has been mentioned and Davis doesn't take LBs high, however GB would love to have Hawk next to Barnett and Davis would love to have a monster/workout freak like Super Mario next to Burgess.

Lions may take Cutler, but someone like Michael Huff or Winston Justice would be better(similar value and more pressing needs).

Cards don't need a RB, they took Arrington in the second last year and he played better at the end of the season. Most of his lack of production can be blamed on the 2nd worst o-line in football. They could also opt for Vernon here.

St.Lou needs help on Defense badly. Greenway or Kiwi would be better there.

Greenway is a decent pick for the Browns, but I have a feeling that Lawson will rise like no other prospect(and rightly so) to the point that he'll be taken there. If you asked Browns fans, they'd tell you that they are in love with Bobby Carpenter and would like that pick there too.

Eagles fans love Reggie Brown and are convinced that he can be their #1 WR. A DE like Kiwi/Tamba or a LB like Greenway would be better.

The Falcons do need a DE, as a replacement for Brady Smith, but safety is a more pressing need. Ko Simpson would be the pick there. He has great play making skills and hits well; perfect to play SS in the Falcons' scheme(FS and SS roles are flipped). They could even take Maroney there since Warrick is getting old and expensive(not likely however because they could pick another system back later).

Vikes may pick Lendale, but D.Will would be just as likely.

KC takes Kiwi there and pairs him up with Allen.

The Broncos don't need a DE or a WR. Their needs are S and DT. Bunkley/Wroten and Bing would be the picks.

Jonathan Scott would be a much better pick than Eric Winston. He is more versatile, less of an injury risk and just as talented.

Bengals don't really need a CB, they need a Safety, TE, and DT. Bunkley would be the pick if he fell, if not then probably Pope or Bing.

Giants take Demeco or Thomas Howard there.

Lewis doesn't fit what the Bears like to do with their TEs as much as Pope does; Pope is the pick there.

The Panthers don't use their TEs much by design, they need a LT. Daryn Colledge/Jonathan Scott/Eric Winston would be better.

Pit could take Maroney, but they need a power back. Parker already gives them speed and elusiveness. A tall WR like Nance or Stovall(who could shoot up boards with a good combine), or maybe even a boring pick like C(Mangold comes to mind) would be more likely there.

I don't know if Seattle is going to be able to resign Alexander and they don't need a Safety. Maroney would be perfect there if they loose Shaun.

JudgeDredd
01-29-2006, 09:25 PM
You think with all the updates they'd be able to update teh draft order aswell.

Baltimore getting Huff!? OMG! that's so no cool.

Man if holmes just drops down a little more. Hey maybe a crazy trade to the Jets and we get D'Brick?

Confuzed Azn
01-29-2006, 10:25 PM
Hey maybe a crazy trade to the Jets and we get D'Brick?

We'd have to trade the farm plus a ****ing cow or two for that. By farm I mean all our draft picks and by cows I mean players.

bucs2325
01-29-2006, 10:57 PM
where did u find this

bucs2325
01-29-2006, 10:58 PM
i hope its wrong because we need MCNEIL the guy is 6'9 330 he could anchor our line for 10-12 years

bklynbucs11
01-30-2006, 01:01 AM
Is anyone else getting the impression that Eric Winston maybe available at the 23 pick in the 2nd round? Wich would allow us to shop around for other positions in round 1.

Oh. and another late-day prospect, maybe 3rd round-ish guy I think we could look at; Laron Laundry, FS/SS from LSU. Serious ball-hawk, and I thik we need another one to join Allen in our safeties of the future.

txbuc4life
01-30-2006, 01:55 AM
i was thinkin maybe deangelo williams would be picked up by the jets?? just a thought.

XTrenTX
01-30-2006, 02:41 AM
Darnell Bing? Not a chance. Even if Hamlin doesn't come back from his injury (which he will,) Marquand Manuel has done an excellent job in his place and will continue to start. With Boulware on the other side...there's no room for Bing except as a career backup.

I can think of 5 or 6 directions we'd go before safety. We'll probably take a safety later, but not on the first day.

Confuzed Azn
01-30-2006, 08:53 AM
Oh. and another late-day prospect, maybe 3rd round-ish guy I think we could look at; Laron Laundry, FS/SS from LSU. Serious ball-hawk, and I thik we need another one to join Allen in our safeties of the future.

Sorry to **** on your cornflakes like this bk, but Landry did not declare. Even if he had, he was a first rounder, a MUCH better prospect than Darnell Bing who is projected to go the Bengals in the First.