Moss

[jahftb88]

if we want to have some1 ready to take joeys speedy wr position how come no1 is talking about moss for a 2nd round pick for us he was outsanding getting off the line n is a younger version of his brother

[JudgeDredd]

We passed on his brother to get Yatta. Boi that sucked. I wouldnt be mad if we used our 2nd on him. I would perfer 3rd, but he prolly wouldnt drop to our 3rd, so a 2nd isnt bad. Especially if he can replace JG.

[jahftb88]

We passed on his brother to get Yatta. Boi that sucked. I wouldnt be mad if we used our 2nd on him. I would perfer 3rd, but he prolly wouldnt drop to our 3rd, so a 2nd isnt bad. Especially if he can replace JG.
i think it would be a good thing cause he would understnad joey alot because of the speed joey has and joey could tell him how to use that speed and be smart w/ it to be a great reciever plus he could always as his brother for some tips to...

[GrudenJr47]

I agree with you guys 110%! The first pick has to be spent on a Tackle, and then after that I really don't think their are MAJOR issues. Look at our positions QB- 3 guys started games last year. HB- Caddy, Mike is there just incase FB- Allstott stayin? if not there's a few we could grab in round 5ish. WR- could use another young gun, I think Galloway has 1 left in him. OL- Address in round 1.

Defense will be set, Will Allen is more than ready. SS is the only issue.

I would like to see speedy Sinorice grabbed there, it'd be nice to say "Hey, watch Galloway this year, we need you to do that when he's gone."

I'd love to see 83 in Pewter and Red!

[TurboBucFan]

He played awesome on the Senior Bowl, I really hope that he falls to us on the 2nd round.

[c-money]

He won't fall that far. He'll be gone early in the 2nd.

[Ruger7mmmag]

Call me crazy, he had a good Senior Bowl, but watching him in practice during the week, it was hard not to see he can only run certain routes due to his lack of height. Does anyone remember Jacqez Green? Besides, we need a fast TALL WR here in TB as those guys win jump balls and open up the passing game as they draw interference penalties half the time they don't come down with it since the DB has to do everything possible as they are outsized. A guy like Moss, if he isnt completely open; the DB is going to knock it down or pick it off as many DBs are taller than this guy by 3-4 inches on average. If you want, you can take out these short WRs by just putting a guy over top of them.

I say pass on Moss myself, but that's my opinion.

[Ruger7mmmag]

I'm signed up as a Pewter Report Insider... and those guys said the Bucs love his speed and his ability to be a return man... but they just flat out said he's too small for the Bucs.

Exactly! Great speed, but not what we need to take advantage of Simms' ability to chuck it deep.

[Psykes]

We're fine at receiver for the moment. Galloway has another 2 solid years left in him, and should be around for 3-4 more.

IMO, let's take care of offensive line and defense. We don't have to worry about WR for another year or two at least.

[Ruger7mmmag]

We're fine at receiver for the moment. Galloway has another 2 solid years left in him, and should be around for 3-4 more.

IMO, let's take care of offensive line and defense. We don't have to worry about WR for another year or two at least.

Galloway has 3-4 more years left in him? NO WAY! He's hardly been able to go back to back seasons without missing games due to injury, let alone put together 3 seasons like this one. Not too mention he's going to be trying to do it in his 30's not 20's!

Sorry man, only Jerry Rice was ever able to be that consistently productive in those later years due to his extreme conditioning and his uncanny ability to avoid injury. Galloway can't even practice 100% during TC he's so fragile.

I love Galloway, but if I was a betting man, I'd say he doesn't play in all 16 games this year. We need a WR with his ability THIS YEAR. So I hope Brackins, Warren or someone in FA comes here for the upcoming campaign or we're in trouble.

[TurboBucFan]

Moss may lack the height but look at that Smith and Moss did this season. Plus, Galloway doesn't use his height to be effective, he uses his speed, something that Moss could do.

[CADILLAC!!!05]

Moss may lack the height but look at that Smith and Moss did this season. Plus, Galloway doesn't use his height to be effective, he uses his speed, something that Moss could do.


yep exactly what i was thinking!!!! :grinyes:

[Ruger7mmmag]

Moss may lack the height but look at that Smith and Moss did this season. Plus, Galloway doesn't use his height to be effective, he uses his speed, something that Moss could do.

I agree Moss is fast. But I've seen this kid in person from a few feet away. He's not as "solid" as Steve Smith or his Brother IMO. Plus, during redzone drills; he was a NON FACTOR as everyone in the secondary was able to outjump and outmuscle him for the ball as he was dwarfed by a few of the guys like Watkins from FSU. We need a WR who Simms can quickly toss up the jump ball and the WR 90% of the time comes down with it or a penalty setting up a 1st and Goal for Alstott or whoever to pound it in.

Like I said before, what did Galloway do when teams decided to "take him away" with a Safety "over the top"? Nothing! Did Simms become a worse QB that week? Of course not. We need a TO or Randy Moss type WR (without their baggage of course) if we are going to be a serious threat for another title anytime soon.

[Hawxter19]

I agree Moss is fast. But I've seen this kid in person from a few feet away. He's not as "solid" as Steve Smith or his Brother IMO. Plus, during redzone drills; he was a NON FACTOR as everyone in the secondary was able to outjump and outmuscle him for the ball as he was dwarfed by a few of the guys like Watkins from FSU. We need a WR who Simms can quickly toss up the jump ball and the WR 90% of the time comes down with it or a penalty setting up a 1st and Goal for Alstott or whoever to pound it in.

Like I said before, what did Galloway do when teams decided to "take him away" with a Safety "over the top"? Nothing! Did Simms become a worse QB that week? Of course not. We need a TO or Randy Moss type WR (without their baggage of course) if we are going to be a serious threat for another title anytime soon.
Alex Smith...

[smoker]

pass..

Rather have Stovall.

[Ruger7mmmag]

Alex Smith...

I thought after the first game Alex Smith would be the GO TO guy like Heath Miller has been in Pittsburgh, but for some reason he wasn't a big factor in the red zone after week 1 like I thought he was going to be. Hopefully you're right as I really believe in the guy. But it would be nice to have a tall WR to go with him. Then you could have multiple choices down there.

[razorboy]

This may be just me, but if you are looking for a speedy WR/return man more in the mold, size-wise, of a Galloway, I might take a gamble on Willie Reid. Chances are you will be able to pick him up in the much later rounds, possibly even as an UFA. He seemed to have recovered well from the injuries of past years this season. Just my two bits.

[Clayton80future]

With this Moss you could either get another version of Steve Smith, or you'll get a Jaquez Green.

[Ruger7mmmag]

With this Moss you could either get another version of Steve Smith, or you'll get a Jaquez Green.

Not a risk we can take with the holes we have or have coming up in the very near future.

[JudgeDredd]

If nothing else we can get a killer return. I mean I know of a certain WR who contributes some what in the passing game but is clearly the X-Factor in any game.... Dante Hall.....

[TBayBuc#81]

Agree with Dredd... Moss would have an immediate impact on the return game... and as far as a WR, he should be alot further along than Dante Hall. It would be nice to put a guy back as a KR or PR and know he has a chance to score everytime he touches it.

[Hawxter19]

I thought after the first game Alex Smith would be the GO TO guy like Heath Miller has been in Pittsburgh, but for some reason he wasn't a big factor in the red zone after week 1 like I thought he was going to be. Hopefully you're right as I really believe in the guy. But it would be nice to have a tall WR to go with him. Then you could have multiple choices down there.
I know, but a lot of it has to do with Smith not being used for anything other than blocking, in the redzone. I would love another big target in the redzone, and I'm wondering why Brackins wasn't sent to NFLE.

[The Future]

pass..

Rather have Stovall.
Stovall would be the best pick, or the kid from Oklahoma, he looked really good @ the Senior Bowl.

[Enigma85]

Interesting mid-round WR prospects:

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Brandon Marshall (6'4" 230 lbs)-UCF-Great size/strength; Good YACer. Solid hands.

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Skyler Green (5'10" 185 lbs)-LSU-Has injury problems, but is a playmaker. Excellent return skills. Good speed.

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Mike Haas (6'1" 208 lbs)-Oregon St-Great production and hands. Lacks speed. Great fundamentals.


An interesting late round prospect:
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Jeremy Bloom (5'9" 175 lbs)-Colorado-Tremendous speed. Good return skills. Also a world class skier who'll take part in the Winter Olympics. Downsides: small and raw because he's been skiing.

[Psykes]

Galloway has 3-4 more years left in him? NO WAY! He's hardly been able to go back to back seasons without missing games due to injury, let alone put together 3 seasons like this one. Not too mention he's going to be trying to do it in his 30's not 20's!

His condition is far better now. In the last 5 years he's missed 7 games and put up damn good numbers as well. You're just a doubter, that's fine... this is just something you should keep in mind in 2-3 years when you're wondering whether his production is a fluke.

Sorry man, only Jerry Rice was ever able to be that consistently productive in those later years due to his extreme conditioning and his uncanny ability to avoid injury. Galloway can't even practice 100% during TC he's so fragile.

Don't sorry me... You'll simply be sorry you doubted him. That was taking a precaution because of an a groin injury... Those have potential to linger around for a while. He's healthy now, he's fit, he's got the flex, he's still got it in him.

I love Galloway, but if I was a betting man, I'd say he doesn't play in all 16 games this year. We need a WR with his ability THIS YEAR. So I hope Brackins, Warren or someone in FA comes here for the upcoming campaign or we're in trouble.
Wow, counting on a player to get injured... Even if Galloway plays 13 or 14 games next year, we have greater needs. We have Clayton and Hilliard, and many more weapons on offense.

Galloway and Clayton will make an awesome tandum next season, and hook up with Simms to make for a far better passing attack next year.

[TiM-GoBucs]

Hester can play offense if needed.

;)

[Ruger7mmmag]

His condition is far better now. In the last 5 years he's missed 7 games and put up damn good numbers as well. You're just a doubter, that's fine... this is just something you should keep in mind in 2-3 years when you're wondering whether his production is a fluke.

Don't sorry me... You'll simply be sorry you doubted him. That was taking a precaution because of an a groin injury... Those have potential to linger around for a while. He's healthy now, he's fit, he's got the flex, he's still got it in him.

Wow, counting on a player to get injured... Even if Galloway plays 13 or 14 games next year, we have greater needs. We have Clayton and Hilliard, and many more weapons on offense.

Galloway and Clayton will make an awesome tandum next season, and hook up with Simms to make for a far better passing attack next year.
You're counting on Clayton to save the day?? Come on! The guy hasn't proved anything other than a bust. His rookie year he was the #1 WR on this team for a majority of the season without ANY other WRs or TEs to steal balls. Just like Jurevicious this year in Seattle with Jackson out. A product of circumstance. As for Hilliard! He sucks man! He's a guy you throw to 2 maybe 3 times a GAME for a short first down. Can't remember the last time he burned anyone or had a big play.

As for Galloway, I'm hoping he doesn't get hurt, but I'm also realistic to know a WR of his age; it's only a matter of time before the injury bug bites him. And I'm not happy with Clayton being the #1 when that happens. You can't believe Clayton is on par with other #1s around the league like Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Steve Smith etc. We need a guy like these guys so Galloway can be a homerun threat and not be expected to shoulder the whole load which will more than likely lead to injury.

[nolesfan4life]

Hester can play offense if needed.

;)
thats funny, i thought the only thing hester was good at was returning

in the NFL, he'll be a non-factor on offense and defense, but he'll be fine in special teams

Devin Hester is just the next Michael Lewis or Chad Morton

[Fightin Irish]

You're counting on Clayton to save the day?? Come on! The guy hasn't proved anything other than a bust. His rookie year he was the #1 WR on this team for a majority of the season without ANY other WRs or TEs to steal balls. Just like Jurevicious this year in Seattle with Jackson out. A product of circumstance. As for Hilliard! He sucks man! He's a guy you throw to 2 maybe 3 times a GAME for a short first down. Can't remember the last time he burned anyone or had a big play.

As for Galloway, I'm hoping he doesn't get hurt, but I'm also realistic to know a WR of his age; it's only a matter of time before the injury bug bites him. And I'm not happy with Clayton being the #1 when that happens. You can't believe Clayton is on par with other #1s around the league like Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Steve Smith etc. We need a guy like these guys so Galloway can be a homerun threat and not be expected to shoulder the whole load which will more than likely lead to injury.
You have every reason to think that Clayton will be a bust, but tell me, did any other of those guys have a rookie season the way he had? And yes this year sucked for him, but that could be due to the fact that he had offseason surgery, and never regained full strength, along with other nagging injures. He will be back next year, and the year after that, and the year after that..... Just find this thread in 4 years and see if you still feel the same way.

[Ruger7mmmag]

You have every reason to think that Clayton will be a bust, but tell me, did any other of those guys have a rookie season the way he had? And yes this year sucked for him, but that could be due to the fact that he had offseason surgery, and never regained full strength, along with other nagging injures. He will be back next year, and the year after that, and the year after that..... Just find this thread in 4 years and see if you still feel the same way.

Don't forget, I'm a Bucs fan as well and I like Clayton and hope he isn't a bust. But as an organization; I think the evidence says we should have a backup plan IN CASE Clayton turns out to be a product of "being in the right place at the right time."

I think we both agree Clayton isn't the type of WR who requires double teames and if for some reason you lose Galloway; then you have a serious problem as that extra defensive player is now focusing on Caddy or blitzing Simms. That's all I'm saying. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.