Who else thinks the Big East should EXPAND?

[cee]

i think 8 teams in a BCS conference is kind of ridiculous. i think the minimum has to be 10. i think the BCS should extend bids to UCF and Marshall. That way, the USF-UCF rivalry will have some serious meaning, and the WVU-Marshall rivalry will have some serious implications.. what do you all think?

[OnTheGrind]

Bring in Notre Dame. They play in a 1 team BCS conference.

[cee]

F notre dame. they are snobs and media darlings, along with USC. even though they already play in the Big East for other sports, they think they are gods with their NBC TV contract and their BCS exemption. i want them no where near the Big East.

[UMiamiBucFan]

They could absorb the ACC.

[nolesfan4life]

they don't have a BCS exemption, they're actually worse off than any team in a BCS conference

they've got to earn one of the two spots each year that aren't awarded to automatic bids

[BucBackInTexas]

Notre Dame didn't earn anything this year, haha. C'mon..it was pretty much given to them.

What they stand to lose by joining a conference is their service academy games and a WHOLE lot of money.

[OnTheGrind]

Notre Dame didn't earn anything this year, haha. C'mon..it was pretty much given to them.

What they stand to lose by joining a conference is their service academy games and a WHOLE lot of money.

They can still play Army, Navy and Air Force..... JUST NOT ALL IN THE SAME YEAR!

[NinetySixSVT]

I'll buy into this.

Gets UCF into a BCS conference :D

[nolesfan4life]

I'll buy into this.

Gets UCF into a BCS conference :D
what the hell does UCF have to do with this

they're in the conference USA, we're talking about the big east

[NinetySixSVT]

what the hell does UCF have to do with this

they're in the conference USA, we're talking about the big east

did you even read the first post?

[NinetySixSVT]

what the hell does UCF have to do with this

they're in the conference USA, we're talking about the big east

i think 8 teams in a BCS conference is kind of ridiculous. i think the minimum has to be 10. i think the BCS should extend bids to UCF and Marshall.

His proposal puts UCF into the Big East.

Jesus I wonder about people sometimes...****ing read.

[nolesfan4life]

no i didn't bother actually, cee just rambles about useless stuff

for instance, the BCS can't extend bids to marshall and UCF, the only thing the BCS has to do with college football is pretty much 5 games at the end of the season, and 1 team from the big east gets it

the BCS doesn't have anything to do with which teams are in which division.

so in Cee's proposal, there would be 12 teams going to big time bowls

ohio st
michigan
lsu
florida
usc
nd
louisville
wake forest
boise state
oklahoma
ucf
marshall

see this is what i mean, the BCS just deals with ranking the 25 top teams and 5 games including the national championship game at the end of the year

[NinetySixSVT]

no i didn't bother actually, cee just rambles about useless stuff

apology accepted.

[nolesfan4life]

apology accepted.
now go read the added edit

[NinetySixSVT]

now go read the added edit

I did and your correct...but it doesn't alter my statement. I'm for UCF ending up in the Big East :p

[USFbucsfan]

I don't think the Big East needs to expand...Notre Dame will never come

I think we got a very competitive conference right now and adding a couple of weaker teams will not help the big east look any stronger.


maybe miami and boston college will come crawling back...MWAHAHAHA

[USFbucsfan]

UCF should fire oleary before they worry about ever being in a BCS conference...

Oleary makes a lot of money for someone whose overall record is 12- 24

[NinetySixSVT]

UCF should fire oleary before they worry about ever being in a BCS conference...

Oleary makes a lot of money for someone whose overall record is 12- 24

Are you kidding me?

Did you see the team he inherited? All of our playmakers this year were freshman and sophomores. O'leary recruits. We had basically no juniors or seniors...Kruczek recruits. Kruczek recruited no defense which is why he lost his job, and you don't plug and chug in college football.

UCF will be one of those "wanker" teams that no one wants to play in 3 years, once O'Leary gets a full recruitment class.

Let's not forget his first year he hardly recruited anybody because he was hired in late January, and most kids had already commited elsewhere at that time.

[cee]

I think we got a very competitive conference right now and adding a couple of weaker teams will not help the big east look any stronger.

i just threw Marshall and UCF as suggestions, for geographic and rivalry purposes. i think adding Houston would be a good add as well, if we're talking about generating big bucks through TV contracts in large media markets. and, they've had a somewhat storied tradition during the klingler days. they are also CUSA champs this season. same goes for Rice. they had a good season, and they are also in the houston metro (4th largest city in america).

[cee]

Are you kidding me?

Did you see the team he inherited? All of our playmakers this year were freshman and sophomores. O'leary recruits. We had basically no juniors or seniors...Kruczek recruits. Kruczek recruited no defense which is why he lost his job, and you don't plug and chug in college football.

UCF will be one of those "wanker" teams that no one wants to play in 3 years, once O'Leary gets a full recruitment class.

Let's not forget his first year he hardly recruited anybody because he was hired in late January, and most kids had already commited elsewhere at that time.

you guys are getting a pretty sweet stadium on campus, as well as a nice athletic village around the stadium, with dorm towers and restaurants/shopping/bars on the ground level. it would make for an awesome gameday experience.

i kinda wish USF stepped up and developed an on campus stadium plan like that.

http://atlas.cc.ucf.edu/resources/sites/UCF/content/live/00240041603497a010714bf2afc007423/1033/Stadium%20rendering%20lg.jpg

ucf stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_House_Networks_Stadium)

[BucBackInTexas]

The all-important question: seats or bleachers?

[nolesfan4life]

why do teams design stadiums like that

michigan has a stadium similar in design, fits 100,000 plus and many people have said its not hard to go in there and play, noise from the crowd doesn't stay in the stadium

[NinetySixSVT]

why do teams design stadiums like that

michigan has a stadium similar in design, fits 100,000 plus and many people have said its not hard to go in there and play, noise from the crowd doesn't stay in the stadium

I believe the long term plan is once UCF has enough support to build upon that and make it a 90-100k stadium, the added seats would be more verticle not so flat.

But yeah I dunno...don't really care though it's 10x better than the freaking citrus bowl.

[-melchor-]

why do teams design stadiums like that

michigan has a stadium similar in design, fits 100,000 plus and many people have said its not hard to go in there and play, noise from the crowd doesn't stay in the stadium
Single tier stadiums like The Big House are cheaper than multi-tier stadiums.



I believe the long term plan is once UCF has enough support to build upon that and make it a 90-100k stadium, the added seats would be more verticle not so flat.
When exactly do you anticipate UCF building a 100k capacity stadium?

[NinetySixSVT]

Single tier stadiums like The Big House are cheaper than multi-tier stadiums.



When exactly do you anticipate UCF building a 100k capacity stadium?

50 years

[USFbucsfan]

Are you kidding me?

Did you see the team he inherited? All of our playmakers this year were freshman and sophomores. O'leary recruits. We had basically no juniors or seniors...Kruczek recruits. Kruczek recruited no defense which is why he lost his job, and you don't plug and chug in college football.

UCF will be one of those "wanker" teams that no one wants to play in 3 years, once O'Leary gets a full recruitment class.

Let's not forget his first year he hardly recruited anybody because he was hired in late January, and most kids had already commited elsewhere at that time.

No, I am not kidding you. Oleary is a horrible coach. He never blames himself. After you guys lost to UF, he said he needed to recruit more (basically saying his players suck)....After you lost to USF he pointed fingers at certain players "whom were responsible for losing." Oleary is the reason UCF sucked this year, you had a talented team and should have won the CUSA, but didnt, because Oleary was throwing his players under the bus all season.

its a shame...hes taking your money and running with it. A coach with a 12-24 record does not deserve a 10 year 10 million dollar contract.

[USFbucsfan]

i kinda wish USF stepped up and developed an on campus stadium plan like that.

A lot of people do. Fact is, we've only been around for 10 years, and the demand for an OCS isn't quite there yet. When the average USF game attendance at Ray Jay is above 40,000, USF will probably build an OCS. I'll bet you its a popular topic amoung the athletic department. It would put a major boost on student attendance, along with increase the season ticket holders. but we don't need one yet, and we certainly dont need to rush anything and build one.

You can bet that USF athletic dept is watching UCF carefully with this stadium thing.

USF will build an OCS when we are ready for it. And it won't be a high school stadium on steroids. We'll have chairbacks and club seats and luxury suites and the whole deal. It's only a matter of time for USF.

[ZenoZone]

for instance, the BCS can't extend bids to marshall and UCF, the only thing the BCS has to do with college football is pretty much 5 games at the end of the season, and 1 team from the big east gets it

Well, that's not altogether accurate. The BCS quietly added the 5th game in order to prevent lawsuits and Congressional investigations on behalf of the so-called "non-BCS conferences." Starting with the 2006 season, this rule was added....

"...one conference champion from among C-USA, MAC, Mountian West, Sun Belt, WAC will automatically qualify to play in a BCS bowl if it is: (1) ranked among the top 12 teams in the final BCS Standings; or (2) ranked among the top 16 teams in the final BCS Standings and ranked higher than the champion of one of the conferences whose champion has an annual automatic berth in a BCS bowl."

Boise State used that circumstance to get a BCS game this year. If a C-USA team like Marshall or UCF went undefeated and won the conference championship to go 13-0, or maybe even 12-1, they would get it.

Notre Dame doesn't have a BCS exemption, they're actually worse off than any team in a BCS conference

they've got to earn one of the two spots each year that aren't awarded to automatic bids

Actually Notre Dame has quite a cozy deal in the BCS. Originally, if ND had 9 wins (and a top 12 BCS ranking), they were automatically in. Now, if they have a top 8 BCS ranking, they are still automatically in, AND get paid if they're in or not.

[ZenoZone]

When exactly do you anticipate UCF building a 100k capacity stadium?

The original plans called for a second phase, a third bowl around the top rim, to bring it up to 65,000-90,000 or more in the expectation (at the time), that the Citrus Bowl was going to eventually be closed and torn down by the city once UCF moved out.

If that were to happen, the UCF Stadium (Bright House Networks Stadium, by the way) would become the new home of the Capital One Bowl and Champ Sports Bowl, and other events like the Florida Classic, Monster Trucks, AMA, etc. All the events that are now in the Citrus Bowl would move to the on-campus stadium, and therefore, the capacity would have to grow significantly.

But just this past fall, the city approved $150 million +/- to improve the Citrus Bowl stadium, so those big events are not moving over to the campus. For now, the on-campus stadium is staying at 40,000 seats, which is probably just right for UCF football.

[UCFjayrod09]

After you guys lost to UF, he said he needed to recruit more (basically saying his players suck)....
What did you expect him to say? We got completely manhandled all day, it was obvious that Florida was bigger, stronger, and faster at every position. That has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with recruiting.


After you lost to USF he pointed fingers at certain players "whom were responsible for losing." Oleary is the reason UCF sucked this year, you had a talented team and should have won the CUSA, but didnt, because Oleary was throwing his players under the bus all season.
We had a talented but young Offense that went through a QB controversy all year and we had a horrible front 7 on Defense and an ok secondary. For most of the season our leading tackler was Joe Burnett, a CORNER on the UCF defense. It has nothing to do with coaching when you have a Corner as a leading tackler especially when he is our best cover corner. Believe me they werent blitzing him or putting him in position to make alot of tackles, the lb's were just that bad. And that all comes back to recruiting not coaching, because it wasn't just that they couldnt tackle they couldnt shed blocks they couldnt cover Te's they couldnt do much of anything.

[ZenoZone]

No, I am not kidding you. Oleary is a horrible coach. He never blames himself. After you guys lost to UF, he said he needed to recruit more (basically saying his players suck)....After you lost to USF he pointed fingers at certain players "whom were responsible for losing." Oleary is the reason UCF sucked this year, you had a talented team and should have won the CUSA, but didnt, because Oleary was throwing his players under the bus all season.

UCF did not have any notable talent to speak of in 2006. The QB situation was a mess, and even when he put in Kyle Isreal late in the season, it never improved.

Plus I mean, come on....the Gators? The number 2 team in the country? When you see your miniscule band of medicore players lined up across the field from that powerhouse, he'd be lying if he said that the Gator players aren't "better" than UCF's.

O'Leary recently made big moves in the assistant coaching staff, and expects turnaround. In 2004, he took over a team late in the game for recruits, and one that was already in shambles. Thus the 0-11 finish. But one thing about UCF....they don't go around the NCAA pounding their chests acting like their some sort of powerhouse like....*cough*...USF...*cough*...They slowly make realistic strides for the long term. A new training facility, a new stadium, and new reasons to attract recruits. It's a long process, but it takes talent, and in order to get talent, you've got to get through a complete recruit cycle. UCF lost the C-USA Championship game and lost the Hawaii Bowl last season because of lapses in the players. The gameplans were good. They were just overpowered by better players.

[USFbucsfan]

UCF practically had the same team as last season, there is no reason why they shouldn't have won the CUSA.

CUSA sucks, the best team is a very very very overrated Houston team. UCF should have easily won out.

You know it too. Every UCF fan I talked to before the season was convinced that UCF was going to beat USF and win CUSA and beat PITT.

I dont have anything against UCF, i like our rivalry. The USF-UCF game was the best game i went to all season.

Oleary is screwing you guys over, and you cant even see it. He never takes the blame for his poor coaching. He just throws his own players under the bus. They dont want to play for him. He taking the money and running with it.

[UCFjayrod09]

UCF practically had the same team as last season, there is no reason why they shouldn't have won the CUSA.

CUSA sucks, the best team is a very very very overrated Houston team. UCF should have easily won out.

You know it too. Every UCF fan I talked to before the season was convinced that UCF was going to beat USF and win CUSA and beat PITT.

I dont have anything against UCF, i like our rivalry. The USF-UCF game was the best game i went to all season.

Oleary is screwing you guys over, and you cant even see it. He never takes the blame for his poor coaching. He just throws his own players under the bus. They dont want to play for him. He taking the money and running with it.

For the most part we did have the same team as last season, but one of our strongest players last season, Stephen Moffett wasnt even starting the whole year this season. As for the defense we lost our only good LB and DE, which leads to no pressure on the QB and poor tackling by the LB's.

[USFbucsfan]

For the most part we did have the same team as last season, but one of our strongest players last season, Stephen Moffett wasnt even starting the whole year this season. As for the defense we lost our only good LB and DE, which leads to no pressure on the QB and poor tackling by the LB's.


You went from 8-5 CUSA runner up to 4-8...

UCF should have been much better...you almost had us. I dont understand how you almost beat us, and then get manhandled by PITT, and then a couple weeks later we owned PITT.

[UCFjayrod09]

The team lost it's spirit, we got destroyed by UF, lost a close game to USF and then lost another close game to Southern Miss. And to just look at the records is silly I watched or listened to every UCF game last year and there were atleast four games where we needed a fourth quarter come back, a last minute field goal, or a turnover to win a game. UCF had everything go right for them last year and they had no such luck this year.

[USFbucsfan]

thats very true...

dont get me wrong, i like it when UCF wins. I enjoy the rivalry with USF...

i just think oleary is the main reason for your problems...not the solution

[cee]

so what do you guys think about the big east expanding to 10?

[USFbucsfan]

oh yeah we got off topic.

i think the big east is fine the way it is.

[cee]

why? 8 teams is very tiny

[USFbucsfan]

the only way i think the big east should expand is from A. Within, or B. If Boston College, Miami, and Virginia Tech come crawling back.


thats it

[NinetySixSVT]

No, I am not kidding you. Oleary is a horrible coach. He never blames himself.

110% false. O'Leary says all the time he takes responsibility for losing.

After you guys lost to UF, he said he needed to recruit more (basically saying his players suck)....

And what's not correct about this statement?

After you lost to USF he pointed fingers at certain players "whom were responsible for losing."

Calling players out is a common tactic. O'leary is not the first to try this.

Oleary is the reason UCF sucked this year, you had a talented team and should have won the CUSA, but didnt, because Oleary was throwing his players under the bus all season.

O'leary was frustrated, and with good reason. He has no juniors or seniors that are worth a damn. Well didn't. The only playmakers are this team were freshman and sophomores, except for Walker.

its a shame...hes taking your money and running with it. A coach with a 12-24 record does not deserve a 10 year 10 million dollar contract.

Steve Spurrier and Urban meyer wouldn't have gotten more than 15 wins over the last 3 seasons with UCF. The team was in shambles when O'Leary took it.

[NinetySixSVT]

A lot of people do. Fact is, we've only been around for 10 years, and the demand for an OCS isn't quite there yet. When the average USF game attendance at Ray Jay is above 40,000, USF will probably build an OCS. I'll bet you its a popular topic amoung the athletic department. It would put a major boost on student attendance, along with increase the season ticket holders. but we don't need one yet, and we certainly dont need to rush anything and build one.

You can bet that USF athletic dept is watching UCF carefully with this stadium thing.

USF will build an OCS when we are ready for it. And it won't be a high school stadium on steroids. We'll have chairbacks and club seats and luxury suites and the whole deal. It's only a matter of time for USF.

sounds like somebody is jealous :o

[NinetySixSVT]

What did you expect him to say? We got completely manhandled all day, it was obvious that Florida was bigger, stronger, and faster at every position. That has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with recruiting.



We had a talented but young Offense that went through a QB controversy all year and we had a horrible front 7 on Defense and an ok secondary. For most of the season our leading tackler was Joe Burnett, a CORNER on the UCF defense. It has nothing to do with coaching when you have a Corner as a leading tackler especially when he is our best cover corner. Believe me they werent blitzing him or putting him in position to make alot of tackles, the lb's were just that bad. And that all comes back to recruiting not coaching, because it wasn't just that they couldnt tackle they couldnt shed blocks they couldnt cover Te's they couldnt do much of anything.

LOL man our linebackers were bad this year....you are not kidding.

[NinetySixSVT]

You went from 8-5 CUSA runner up to 4-8...

UCF should have been much better...you almost had us. I dont understand how you almost beat us, and then get manhandled by PITT, and then a couple weeks later we owned PITT.

last year UCF had an inflated record. And if you go back and read what O'leary has said, he always said he felt the team wasn't as good as the record indicated. We had a crazy turnover ratio, something like +16. That is the main reason we were the CUSA runner up.

We should see some big improvment next year as some of our playmakers become juniors, and the younger more talented recruits come in...although our seniors will still be awful.

[BucBackInTexas]

Sorry to tell you, USFbucsfan, but bleachers are how a college stadium should be - it takes a hell of a lot away from the home field if the entire student section isn't crammed together standing and going nuts the whole game. Leave the luxury to the pro's, college is about the soul.

[USFbucsfan]

i agree with you, i wasn't talking about what i want. The BEST college games I've been to weren't at Raymond James Stadium...I myself prefer the bench seats, they are better for standing on.

I'm talking about what USF will do. USF won't want to make their season ticket owners and especially the big donors feel like USF is making a downgrade by moving into a steel bench seat stadium. Thats hard not to do when you've been playing in a stadium at prestigous as Ray Jay. And I'm not jealous of what UCF is doing either, its great for their program to build an OCS, that citrus bowl is in the middle of a dump. USF will have to make sure an OCS is every bit a hospitable as ray jay. Plenty of bathrooms, foodstands, ect.

Personally, I hope the whole student section of our stadium (whenever its built) is bench seating. I look forward to the day I can park somewhere on USFs campus and tailgate all day and then walk to the OCS and watch the Bulls. It would bring the University to life in a whole new way. It would eliminate all of those pesky kids who wear their gators and noles stuff and would spread the school spirit to a larger part of the student body. It will happen one day, maybe even in the next 10 years. But now unfortunately is not the time for USF.

[NinetySixSVT]

i agree with you, i wasn't talking about what i want. The BEST college games I've been to weren't at Raymond James Stadium...I myself prefer the bench seats, they are better for standing on.

I'm talking about what USF will do. USF won't want to make their season ticket owners and especially the big donors feel like USF is making a downgrade by moving into a steel bench seat stadium. Thats hard not to do when you've been playing in a stadium at prestigous as Ray Jay. And I'm not jealous of what UCF is doing either, its great for their program to build an OCS, that citrus bowl is in the middle of a dump. USF will have to make sure an OCS is every bit a hospitable as ray jay. Plenty of bathrooms, foodstands, ect.

Personally, I hope the whole student section of our stadium (whenever its built) is bench seating. I look forward to the day I can park somewhere on USFs campus and tailgate all day and then walk to the OCS and watch the Bulls. It would bring the University to life in a whole new way. It would eliminate all of those pesky kids who wear their gators and noles stuff and would spread the school spirit to a larger part of the student body. It will happen one day, maybe even in the next 10 years. But now unfortunately is not the time for USF.

Sorry, it sounds like you're a little bit jealous to me.

[USFbucsfan]

im not jealous...I take an 8-4 football team with a great coach, being in the Big East, and an NFL stadium over UCF's 4-8 team, loser O'liar failure of a coach, CUSA, and OCS erecter set steel stadium any day of the week.

sorry, i'm not sure what there is to be jealous of.

[cee]

im not jealous...I take an 8-4 football team with a great coach, being in the Big East, and an NFL stadium over UCF's 4-8 team, loser O'liar failure of a coach, CUSA, and OCS erecter set steel stadium any day of the week.

sorry, i'm not sure what there is to be jealous of.

its OK.. at least i am a man and can admit when i am jealous (which i am).. UCF finally ponied up and got a stadium on campus... USF fans are poluted by the fanatical ideas of an on campus stadium with seat backs, bathrooms for every row, condiment dispensers in every armrest, and hooters waitresses patrolling the stands... GET REAL. all, if not, most college football stadiums have bench seating where kids get to cram together while the mayhem ensues.. the chairbacks are for the boxes for the big donors. you can have both, you know. it's unfortunate that USF fans set unrealistic standards for their OCS. they expect to be pampered, and that expectation will delay the building of an OCS forever because unrealistic goals cannot be met.

[ZenoZone]

im not jealous...I take an 8-4 football team with a great coach, being in the Big East, and an NFL stadium over UCF's 4-8 team, loser O'liar failure of a coach, CUSA, and OCS erecter set steel stadium any day of the week.

sorry, i'm not sure what there is to be jealous of.

Perhaps you don't have the slightest clue about the prospects of tremendous revenue that the program will benefit from with an on-campus stadium. UCF has wanted to move out of the Citrus Bowl since day 1, because they don't gross dollar-one playing there. The stadium is owned by the city, and UCF is a leasing tenant.

Now I don't know about USF's contract with Raymond James Stadium, but I'd bet the farm they don't gross much if any, revenue, whatsoever. You may think it's fancy playing in your big brother's playground, but to make it the long run, the program needs a revenue generating entitiy, and that means your own stadium. Why do you think larger schoosl try to bulk up their schedules with 7 home games? Because they literally make MILLIONS off of holding a home game. Playing second fiddle to the Bucs in RJS will only stunt their growth in the long run.

As for the piddley "erector set" gag, nice try. Parts may be pre-fab, but you obviously possess little knowledge of engineering or construction methods. The design is quite cost effective for a stadium that will only see events a dozen days per year or fewer.

[NinetySixSVT]

im not jealous...I take an 8-4 football team with a great coach, being in the Big East, and an NFL stadium over UCF's 4-8 team, loser O'liar failure of a coach, CUSA, and OCS erecter set steel stadium any day of the week.

sorry, i'm not sure what there is to be jealous of.

I think the 2 responses after your post sums it up.

UCF has taken a giant leap forward with our OCS, while USF is stuck in the mud. You are jealous, and you jus twon't admit it.

Hell I've been jealous every year that we've had to go down to the freakin Dump Bowl to play. Every single game iw ould say "MAN it would be nice to be able to walk to the stadium on game day with the entire campus going crazy".

Fortunetly, that is reality for UCF now. USF, however, will never be able to replicate this until they get an OCS, which at earliest would be a couple years away now.

[USFbucsfan]

To be jealous of UCF's stadium, I'd have to be jealous of every other college team with an OCS. That is my point. I would like an OCS, but I certainly do not believe we need or deserve one yet. One will come in time, but for now I could care less, I'm more concerned about USF winning the Big East next year.

[NinetySixSVT]

To be jealous of UCF's stadium, I'd have to be jealous of every other college team with an OCS. That is my point. I would like an OCS, but I certainly do not believe we need or deserve one yet. One will come in time, but for now I could care less, I'm more concerned about USF winning the Big East next year.

Not neccessarily. You can be jealous (and you are, btw) that UCF actually ponied up to get a stadium while USF has not.

I can tell by your posts you do not "care less". I guarentee if they announced a stadium tommorow you would be THRILLED.

[USFbucsfan]

I would be thrilled...but how does that make me jealous?

UCF football has been around for like 30(?) years...you've been playing in the citris dump, you pretty much needed this stadium.

USF football has been around 10 years, we're still building the fan base. We don't need or deserve an OCS right now.

[NinetySixSVT]

I would be thrilled...but how does that make me jealous?

UCF football has been around for like 30(?) years...you've been playing in the citris dump, you pretty much needed this stadium.

USF football has been around 10 years, we're still building the fan base. We don't need or deserve an OCS right now.

To be jealous of UCF's stadium, I'd have to be jealous of every other college team with an OCS. That is my point. I would like an OCS, but I certainly do not believe we need or deserve one yet. One will come in time, but for now I could care less, I'm more concerned about USF winning the Big East next year.

You care, and you're at the least a little bit jealous. It's quite obvious.

[BucBackInTexas]

You're jealous! Nuh uh! Yes huh! No I'm not! Yes you are!

Give it a rest, kids.

[cee]

USF football has been around 10 years, we're still building the fan base. We don't need or deserve an OCS right now.

quit listening to the homers on thebullspen.com. we NEED one, if so, more than UCF. the fact of the matter is, we are in the MINORITY in terms of programs that are 1-A that don't have an OCS. we play ECU in the papajohns.com bowl.. EVEN ECU HAS AN OCS.

if we build it, they will come.

[USFbucsfan]

:cool:

[USFbucsfan]

this place is becoming like thebullspen.com...haha

every thread becomes either UCF or OCS related.

[NinetySixSVT]

You're jealous! Nuh uh! Yes huh! No I'm not! Yes you are!

Give it a rest, kids.

No offense, but you should not be calling anyone a kid when you want a Nintendo Wii

http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showpost.php?p=2401591&postcount=47

[BearLandBucFan]

Bring in Notre Dame. They play in a 1 team BCS conference.


Notre Dame at least as it stands right now, ever chose to leave Independence... I won't say never

but they have the freedom to chose who they play

it both hurts and helps them

[cee]

this place is becoming like thebullspen.com...haha

every thread becomes either UCF or OCS related.

thebullspen.com sucks. it's all about what Bulliever finds "appropriate".. if you don't think the way he thinks, you are destined for account removal. even if you use proper language and never abuse any of the guidelines, big brother is always watching you.

they suspended my account because i didn't feel like CJL would be the coach to take them to a BCS game (an opinion). it's a form of modern-day fascism where Bulliever is Benito Mussolini.

[BucBackInTexas]

No offense, but you should not be calling anyone a kid when you want a Nintendo Wii

http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showpost.php?p=2401591&postcount=47LOL, my gosh man, at least pretend you're an adult around here. You really burned me on that one! I WANT (and already have, loving it by the way) A WII!

It just struck me - I got under your skin enough for you to stalk my posts. This is a big day for me. I bet you're jealous.

[USFbucsfan]

thebullspen.com sucks. it's all about what Bulliever finds "appropriate".. if you don't think the way he thinks, you are destined for account removal. even if you use proper language and never abuse any of the guidelines, big brother is always watching you.

they suspended my account because i didn't feel like CJL would be the coach to take them to a BCS game (an opinion). it's a form of modern-day fascism where Bulliever is Benito Mussolini.

you know the commandments...

thou shall not say levitts name in vain... ;)

[NinetySixSVT]

LOL, my gosh man, at least pretend you're an adult around here. You really burned me on that one! I WANT (and already have, loving it by the way) A WII!

It just struck me - I got under your skin enough for you to stalk my posts. This is a big day for me. I bet you're jealous.

You say have one like it's a good thing. Any grown man who wants and plays a Nintendo has serious childhood issues.

If you were 11 I could let it slide...unless you are 11?

[cee]

he's 12

[BucBackInTexas]

You say have one like it's a good thing. Any grown man who wants and plays a Nintendo has serious childhood issues.

If you were 11 I could let it slide...unless you are 11?I have a gay friend who for the longest time was the biggest gay basher I knew - that is until he came to terms with the fact that he was a gay man. There's nothing at all wrong with being gay, UCF Student.

Come to terms with yourself (and live a few years longer) and you'll be in a position to lecture. Maybe. I invite you, nay, I implore you, to create as many topics as you like about my buying a Wii.

If you think I'm saying you're gay by the time you reach this line, well, then I guess UCF was the right school for you.

[NinetySixSVT]

That's all I needed to know.

[BucBackInTexas]

That's all I needed to know.How about mustering a real reply? I know you have it in you to tell everyone why you're so caught up in your faux adulthood that you think you're above playing videogames, UCF Student.

[UCFjayrod09]

Hey let's stop knocking UCF here just because you two are bickering doesn't mean you should bring my school into it. Other than that, carry on.

[BucBackInTexas]

Hey let's stop knocking UCF here just because you two are bickering doesn't mean you should bring my school into it. Other than that, carry on.I apologize :)

[cee]

i think the big east should expand to 10 teams.

[DHAMBUC]

Funny that the UCF fans only Have their Stadium to Brag about, I'm glad as well as all the USF fans we have a TEAM to brag about. 8-4 in The Big East , which UCF couldnt get in by the way. And if it were not for USF leaving Conference USA u probally wouldnt even be there. HMMMMMMM Stadium or Team. I pick the team.

[MusicCityTitan]

the new UCF stadium looks kinda crappy if you ask me..

[cee]

it looks better than the USF stadium that is only a figment of our imagination.

[USFbucsfan]

8 teams is good enough for the big east now

quality, not quantity

[MusicCityTitan]

it looks better than the USF stadium that is only a figment of our imagination.

they should just renovate and expand the Sun Dome for football..