ps3 or xbox 360

[#1buczfan]

ok i dont know what to get i plan on buying a game system with my tax return and i dont know what to get. please help. does the ps3 20gb have the Blu-ray dvd player? and does the ps3 have on line play? if so is it free like ps2 was? and can you buy the wireless headset and wireless internet thing that the 360 has? and is the graphics a lot better then the 360? any help to make my decision would be great thank you. and if it make any diff i have THIS TV (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4872141)

[TheDude]

There's been a few threads on this but,

I was in the same boat about 6 weeks ago. I went with the 360 because:

-Way more games. I don't feel like waiting 6 months for some decent games to come out on PS3.

-$200 cheaper

-Online system is better on 360

-All the blue ray and 1080i crap really does'nt matter to me.

To answer your questions specifically:

-I believe all ps3s play blue ray. not 100% on that though.

-Playstation does have online play, but it is not as good imo as xbox live.

-The headset comes with the 360, it plugs into your controller. The wireless interent adapter is sold seperately, it's like $100.

-As far as the graphics go, it's really going to depend on the game. One example is my wife's cousin came over and watched me play some gears of war. His brother has a PS3. He said that GoW absolutely blew away dead rising on ps3, he said it was'nt even close. I think if you give ps3 6 months, the graphics will catch up to 360, and maybe even pass it. I'd have to say graphics wise, both systems will probably be prettty close.

[#1buczfan]

There's been a few threads on this but,

I was in the same boat about 6 weeks ago. I went with the 360 because:

-Way more games. I don't feel like waiting 6 months for some decent games to come out on PS3.

-$200 cheaper

-Online system is better on 360

-All the blue ray and 1080i crap really does'nt matter to me.

To answer your questions specifically:

-I believe all ps3s play blue ray. not 100% on that though.

-Playstation does have online play, but it is not as good imo as xbox live.

-The headset comes with the 360, it plugs into your controller. The wireless interent adapter is sold seperately, it's like $100.

-As far as the graphics go, it's really going to depend on the game. One example is my wife's cousin came over and watched me play some gears of war. His brother has a PS3. He said that GoW absolutely blew away dead rising on ps3, he said it was'nt even close. I think if you give ps3 6 months, the graphics will catch up to 360, and maybe even pass it. I'd have to say graphics wise, both systems will probably be prettty close. thank you for your reply. i really dont know. i like the wireless stuff. like the wireless headset and the wireless interent adapter. i think i am going to get the 360 unless something changes

[Dwight Smith]

I did lots of research of both before I decided to buy my 360.

There were several reasons I went with the 360 over the PS3,
1) Availability - no one can get a PS3 right now without spending 2 to 3 times what it is worth... no thanks.

2) Games -- Currently, PS3 has nothing worth buying that the 360 doesn't already have. This is going to change, and I'm sure there will be some exclusive titles that will make people want to get a PS3 (Metal Gear for example), but those are at least a year down the line and 360 already has a bunch of great games.

3) Power -- PS3 on paper has more "power", but the difference is so small that I don't view it as an advantage over the 360, it's more of a push.

4) Blue-Ray -- I'm going to say it now, and you can take it for what it's worth. Blue-Ray will become the next Beta-Max (another Sony product they tried to force on the market that filed). HD-DVD's are cheaper and the quality is so close to the Blue-Ray's that again, it's not worth the extra cost to get them. There are also huge issues with the Blue-Ray player for the PS3 and dealing with high end HD TV's. HD-DVD's are already being massed produced and don't look like they are going anywhere.

While this is one advantage the PS3 does have over the 360 (you have to buy the HD-DVD player for the 360, an extra 200 bucks, while the PS3 comes with a Blue-Ray player, although it's about 200 bucks more expensive than the 360 package). Blue-Ray might be a dead technology in a few years.

5) Price, the 360 is cheap, much cheaper. The games are cheaper, the system is cheaper... period.

6) Online -- While I have not seen the PS3 online arena, I am almost positive that the XBox Live service is better. Why? Because XBL is amazing, and is so well integrated into the system. It's really impressive and I think PS3 is going to have to really work on their service to get it up to snuff.

[ThePaperChamp]

I did lots of research of both before I decided to buy my 360....

Great post. What issues are there with the Blu-Ray and high end tvs?

BTW...360 is definately the way to go. Imho xbox has better exclusive titles and much better online support.

[Pantera Canes]

Probably depends on what kind of games you like to play as well. There are exclusive games on both systems now that I think are really good. Though haven't really played the exlusive games in much depth yet.

I wish there was a way to see more head to head comparisons. Especially on getting to see graphics. At least getting to see them in person.

As far as the hd vs blue ray, one will be the beta max. Just with the 360 there is a chance to go both ways. PS3 has it built in already and doesn't look like it can have another one plug into it.

From what I hear 360 has the better online stuff, but it sounds like you have to pay for it. Though not sure how much the monthly service is. Don't know if PS3 is free or pay. I remember the EA games for PS2 being free to play online. Of course if you pay for it then probably more likely to maintain it and tech support it.

Even though I've already gotten one of them I am still going back and forth in my head on which one I really want. Though it will probably be a year before you have a chance to buy a PS3.

Would also like to see people talk about failures on them. I'm already getting a disk read error. Though there might be a small hair line scratch on the disk. I know the PS3 displays keep locking up because they designed the display case wrong and it can't breath.

[TheDude]

From what I hear 360 has the better online stuff, but it sounds like you have to pay for it. Though not sure how much the monthly service is. Though it will probably be a year before you have a chance to buy a PS3.

-xbox live gold is $50 per year and well worth it imo.

-ps3s are pretty easy to find around here, I saw a few at target the other day.

[HoodedChampion]

-xbox live gold is $50 per year and well worth it imo.
only dopes actually pay $50... look online and you can find a 12 month card for not even $40

[BlackNGold]

I have not seen one positive post on the ps3 on this board at all. I have a ps3 and I am pleased with it so I will give you my reason for the PS3. As far as the 20 gb:
- it does not include wireless internet but you can buy an adapter unless you get the 60 gb which has it included
-20 gb is only $100 more not $200 (thats the 60gb) than the 360 premium
- xbox live might be the best online and have a better interface but if you want to save some money you can play ps3 for free online and I have yet to experience any lag on mine whatsoever. It also has a web browser to view websites on your TV.
- Launch games aren't that good for PS3 and there are plenty of good games coming out in Feb. and Mar. It is just a matter of whether you want to play some good games now or wait and give the PS3 a few months and have some very good titles come out later.
- almost all of the ps2 games are compatible with PS3
-I have not had any mechanical problems with mine as some people say there are. The system just came out so im sure any issues listed will be fixed. When the 360 came out they had a huge overheating problem and it got fixed so I would not be worried about that

I think the PS3 will be worth it in the end even though people are quick to put it down but its only been out 1 month and 360 has had a year head start. Just thought I would give you an opinion on it since most people on this board favor the 360 and don't list a whole lot of positives on the PS3.

[HoodedChampion]

- Launch games aren't that good for PS3 and there are plenty of good games coming out in Feb. and Mar. It is just a matter of whether you want to play some good games now or wait and give the PS3 a few months and have some very good titles come out later.
Week of Feb 4, 2007 (http://www.gamespot.com/newthisweek.html?date=20070218&type=new_this_week&platform=1028&sort=rdate&dlx_type=all&sortdir=desc)
F.E.A.R. (already on 360)

Week of Feb. 18 (http://www.gamespot.com/newthisweek.html?date=20070225&type=new_this_week&platform=1028&sort=rdate&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc)
Virtua Fighter 5 (This game will not have online)
NBA Street Home Court (PS3 and 360)
Rainbow 6 (already on 360)
College Hoops 2K7 (already on 360)
SingStar (???)
The Eye of Judgment (???)

Week of Mar 4, 2007 (http://www.gamespot.com/newthisweek.html?date=20070304&type=new_this_week&platform=1028&sort=rdate&dlx_type=all&sortdir=desc)
Heavenly Sword (PS3 exclusive, looks good)
Major League Baseball 2K7 (PS3 and 360)
Medal of Honor: Airborne (PS3 and 360)
Armored Core 4 (PS3 and 360)
Virtua Tennis 3 (PS3 and 360)

Week of Mar 25, 2007 (http://www.gamespot.com/newthisweek.html?date=20070325&type=new_this_week&platform=1028&sort=rdate&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc)
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent (already on 360, PS the next Splinter Cell is 36o exclusive)
MotorStorm (I played the demo, pretty impressive...but only 15 vechicles. What happened to bluray=more space=more game content? Ha!)
Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War (PS3 and 360)
Fatal Inertia (PS3 and 360)
Indiana Jones 2007 (PS3 and 360)
Haze (PS3 and 360)
Burnout 5 (PS3 and 360)



OK.....

[HoodedChampion]

Here's whats up...

I have about $500 and I was very close to buying a PS3. I really wanted one a week ago (I'm a sucker for new ****)

but then I looked at the games for the future of the PS3...they in my eyes SUCK.

360 has awesome, awesome games for the future...it really does have a great list of games.

So just yesterday I said **** the PS3 and decided that I will be buy a 7.1 Surround Sound for my room. Much better buy.

I will have a 360 with great games and online...HDTV...and Surround Sound. Oh hell yeah.....

[A-40-Train]

I have both, and I have to say PS3, the BluRay is a big thing to me. I don't know, it's just great to me, but I love my 360 2

[HoodedChampion]

I have both, and I have to say PS3, the BluRay is a big thing to me. I don't know, it's just great to me, but I love my 360 2
Tell me what *BluRay* gives you. It's extremely overrated.

wow you're 13 and you have a PS3 and 360? Damn I want your parents!

[A-40-Train]

well dad bought me a 360 a month ago and mom got the ps3 for christmas (they're split)

[HoodedChampion]

cool.

[A-40-Train]

the Blu Ray gives you amazing HD, I love it lol

[HoodedChampion]

the Blu Ray gives you amazing HD, I love it lol
what, the HD movies?

[BlackNGold]

Week of Feb 4, 2007 (http://www.gamespot.com/newthisweek.html?date=20070218&type=new_this_week&platform=1028&sort=rdate&dlx_type=all&sortdir=desc)
F.E.A.R. (already on 360)

Week of Feb. 18 (http://www.gamespot.com/newthisweek.html?date=20070225&type=new_this_week&platform=1028&sort=rdate&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc)
Virtua Fighter 5 (This game will not have online)
NBA Street Home Court (PS3 and 360)
Rainbow 6 (already on 360)
College Hoops 2K7 (already on 360)
SingStar (???)
The Eye of Judgment (???)

Week of Mar 4, 2007 (http://www.gamespot.com/newthisweek.html?date=20070304&type=new_this_week&platform=1028&sort=rdate&dlx_type=all&sortdir=desc)
Heavenly Sword (PS3 exclusive, looks good)
Major League Baseball 2K7 (PS3 and 360)
Medal of Honor: Airborne (PS3 and 360)
Armored Core 4 (PS3 and 360)
Virtua Tennis 3 (PS3 and 360)

Week of Mar 25, 2007 (http://www.gamespot.com/newthisweek.html?date=20070325&type=new_this_week&platform=1028&sort=rdate&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc)
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent (already on 360, PS the next Splinter Cell is 36o exclusive)
MotorStorm (I played the demo, pretty impressive...but only 15 vechicles. What happened to bluray=more space=more game content? Ha!)
Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War (PS3 and 360)
Fatal Inertia (PS3 and 360)
Indiana Jones 2007 (PS3 and 360)
Haze (PS3 and 360)
Burnout 5 (PS3 and 360)



OK.....

You left out a few so I got a complete list up until march and theres also alot of the big names which I don't have a date yet like MGS4, DMC4, Killzone3, FFXIII and some others which will come out after. Nice comment on the "what happened to bluray=more diskspace=more content". Obviously you only played a demo so you would know theres more. The system just came out so you can't expect them to be able to use everything now because developers have said its hard to make games for it and use all the space so just wait at least 6 months before saying anything. Im just giving my opinion on why he should buy it I don't want to turn this into a which console is better, I am just giving my reasons. Its your opinion that you think 360 games are better and mine that it isnt and thats that.

As far as bluray is concerned it is not overrated and I would like to know why you think that. Even Disney has said they are exclusively going with Bluray now and it will take a while but I believe more will follow.......Again this isn't an argument over which system is better. I gave my reasons and you gave yours

January 2007 College Hoops 2K7
February 2007 Half-Life 2
February 2007 F.E.A.R.
February 2007 Eye of Judgment: Conquerors of 9 Fields
February 2007 Fatal Inertia
February 2007 Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War
February 2007 SingStar
March 2007 Indiana Jones 2007
March 2007 Mercenaries 2: World in Flames
March 2007 Heavenly Sword
March 2007 MotorStorm
March 2007 Burnout 5
March 2007 Formula One Championship Edition
March 2007 Coded Arms Assault
March 2007 Army of Two
March 2007 Virtua Tennis 3
March 2007 Medal of Honor: Airborne
March 2007 Golden Axe
March 2007 Haze
March 2007 Lair
March 2007 Virtua Fighter 5
March 2007 MLB '07
March 2007 Def Jam: Icon
March 2007 John Woo Presents Stranglehold

[HoodedChampion]

Nice comment on the "what happened to bluray=more diskspace=more content". Obviously you only played a demo so you would know theres more.
The FULL game I think comes with only 15 vehicles. I heard that somewhere...a lot of people were suprised by that. So correct me if I'm wrong with a link...

[HoodedChampion]

You left out a few so I got a complete list up until march and theres also alot of the big names which I don't have a date yet like MGS4, DMC4, Killzone3, FFXIII and some others which will come out after. Nice comment on the "what happened to bluray=more diskspace=more content". Obviously you only played a demo so you would know theres more. The system just came out so you can't expect them to be able to use everything now because developers have said its hard to make games for it and use all the space so just wait at least 6 months before saying anything. Im just giving my opinion on why he should buy it I don't want to turn this into a which console is better, I am just giving my reasons. Its your opinion that you think 360 games are better and mine that it isnt and thats that.

As far as bluray is concerned it is not overrated and I would like to know why you think that. Even Disney has said they are exclusively going with Bluray now and it will take a while but I believe more will follow.......Again this isn't an argument over which system is better. I gave my reasons and you gave yours

January 2007 College Hoops 2K7 (on 360)
February 2007 Half-Life 2 (on 360)
February 2007 F.E.A.R. (on 360)
February 2007 Eye of Judgment: Conquerors of 9 Fields (???)
February 2007 Fatal Inertia (on 360)
February 2007 Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War (on 360)
February 2007 SingStar (crap)
March 2007 Indiana Jones 2007 (on 360)
March 2007 Mercenaries 2: World in Flames (not officially PS3 exclusive)
March 2007 Heavenly Sword
March 2007 MotorStorm
March 2007 Burnout 5 (on 360)
March 2007 Formula One Championship Edition
March 2007 Coded Arms Assault
March 2007 Army of Two (on 360)
March 2007 Virtua Tennis 3 (on 360)
March 2007 Medal of Honor: Airborne (on 360)
March 2007 Golden Axe (on 360)
March 2007 Haze (on 360)
March 2007 Lair
March 2007 Virtua Fighter 5
March 2007 MLB '07 (on 360)
March 2007 Def Jam: Icon (on 360)
March 2007 John Woo Presents Stranglehold (on 360)
Still... not a very good line-up.

[BlackNGold]

The FULL game I think comes with only 15 vehicles. I heard that somewhere...a lot of people were suprised by that. So correct me if I'm wrong with a link...

I dont know you might be. It looked like a pretty good game and I heard alot of people saying it was good. I assumed since it was only a demo that there would be more but you may be right I have to look into it.

Here is a list of PS3 exclusives so far just for reference if anyone wants to know:
Playstation 3 Exclusive Titles:

-Afrika (Confirmed)
-Angel Rings (Published by Sony)
-Coded Arms Assault (Confirmation)
-Devil May Cry 4 (Confirmation)
-Eight days (SCE)
-EyeDentify (Published by Sony)
-Fifth Phantom Saga (Confirmation)
-Final Fantasy XIII (Confirmed)
-Final Fantasy Versus XIII (Confirmed)
-Formula One (Published by Sony)
-Full Auto 2: Battlelines (Confirmation)
-Genji: Days of the Blade (Confirmation)
-Gradius (Confirmation)
-Grand Turismo 5 (Published by Sony)
-Grand Turismo HD (Published by Sony)
-Gretzky NHL (Published by Sony)
-Heavenly Sword (Published by Sony)
-Hot Shots Golf 5 (Published by Sony)
-Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier (Published by Sony)
-Killzone 3 (SCE)
-Lair (Confirmation)
-Metal Gear Solid 4 (Confirmation)
-Mobile Suit Gundam: Gundam World (Confirmed)
-Monster Hunter 3 (Confirmation)
-Monster Kingdom (Published by Sony)
-Motor Storm (Published by Sony)
-Naughty Dog (Working Title)(SCE)
-Ni-Oh (Information)
-Ratchet and Clank 5 (Published by Sony)
-Redwood Falls (Information)
-Resistance: Fall of Man (Confirmation)
-Ridge Racer 7 (Confirmation)
-Shin Megami Tensei (Confirmation)
-Tekken 6 (Confirmed)
-The Eye of Judgment (Working title)(SCE)
-The Getaway (SCE)
-Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom (SCE)
-Virtual Fighter 5 (Confirmation)
-WarDevil Enigma (Confirmation)
-Warhawk (Published by Sony)
-White Knight Story
-Wizardry (Information)

[Rod_Tidwell]

I am selling my PS3 because my three kids think it is a major piece of crap compared to the 360 and Wii.

If anyone wants it, PM me.

[Pantera Canes]

I am selling my PS3 because my three kids think it is a major piece of crap compared to the 360 and Wii.

If anyone wants it, PM me.

how much? what games?
probably do best to sell on ebay, can still sell for over list price

[gdawg4953]

I have both and only the 360 is getting some love right now. The next game for the ps3 that I'm going to get is Formula 1 CE. Then Madden and SOCOM. The ps3 with blu-ray can store 50 gigs compared to 9 gigs on a regular dvd for 360 games. MS wont be making hd-dvd only games so in the future, ps3 games may be more advanced, but not now. I liked the ps2 controller a lot better too. The ps3 controller feels a little weird.

[BlackNGold]

liked the ps2 controller a lot better too. The ps3 controller feels a little weird.

The ps3 feels wierd yea. Its not that bad though its just VERY light and the L2 and R2 buttons are different

[gdawg4953]

The ps3 feels wierd yea. Its not that bad though its just VERY light and the L2 and R2 buttons are different

I prefer the feel of the ps2 controller for madden. Yeah, it feels really light too. I don't know if I would use the sixaxis tilt either. A lot of times I'm sitting sideways on the couch so I think that it would hurt me more than anything if enabled. I want the rumble back!

[TheDude]

only dopes actually pay $50... look online and you can find a 12 month card for not even $40

I guess I'm a dope

I would gladly spend $10 and not have to hunt around online, wait for it to be mailed to me etc.

simplicty/convenience > $10

[HoodedChampion]

I guess I'm a dope

I would gladly spend $10 and not have to hunt around online, wait for it to be mailed to me etc.

simplicty/convenience > $10
You don't have to hunt around to find amazon.com do you?

$36 with shipping was the deal I found.
...wait for it to be mailed to me etc.
I ordered it before my before my subscription ended... so I wasn't without Live or anything.

It really doesn't matter, it's all up to you.

[TheDude]

You don't have to hunt around to find amazon.com do you?

$36 with shipping was the deal I found.

I ordered it before my before my subscription ended... so I wasn't without Live or anything.

It really doesn't matter, it's all up to you.

yep, $14 really is not that big a deal

[ThePaperChamp]

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