Pat Kirwan's 4th Mock- Interesting Twist...

[Buc_40]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10081020

1. Oakland: JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU -- The Raiders have a lot of needs, but as long as quarterback is one of them, they have to respond by selecting the guy with the great deep ball. I could see a move down, especially now that Cleveland will not need Adrian Peterson and someone was counting on tackle Joe Thomas or wide receiver Calvin Johnson.

2. **Tampa Bay (after trade with Detroit): Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech -- There is a relationship between Lions head coach Rod Marinelli and Tampa Bay general manager Bruce Allen and Allen loves to make deals. After the great workout by Johnson, it's time to move up to get him but not until the Raiders make their selection. There's no sense to move up if Johnson is already gone. The Lions get Tampa's second- and fourth-round selections to move down.

3. Cleveland: Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin -- The signing of Jamal Lewis turned the top of this draft upside down. Thomas reminds me of the year general manager Phil Savage, then with the Ravens, took Jonathan Ogden with the third pick in the draft. Thomas can start for 10 years, but the Browns still need a quarterback.

4. **Detroit (after trade with Tampa Bay): Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame -- Detroit selects the quarterback of the future and will come back early in the second round with picks Nos. 34 and 35 and get the critical needs at safety and linebacker.

[Q-man]

I wouldn't like that deal. The 2nd and 4th rounders are
the depth for the team for the next few years. I don't like
giving them up, even for CJ. I still say, that CJ is there
at the 4th pick. 2 QBs and 1 LT will be the first 3 picks. IMO.

[Lynchmobster]

I wouldn't mind that trade if we were sure that CJ was everything that they are saying he is.

The fact is though, is that the only way we can mess up this draft is by trading down. There are 4 elite players in this draft we we pick #4. We are going to have either a franchise QB, a Paul Gruber type LT or what could be the best WR prospect in a long time.

[no1bucsfan29]

Again, there aren't 4 elite players in the draft.
There is an overweight QB with what is being called by many a poor work ethic
A Smart Qb that can make all the throws but has a bad habit of choking in big games
A WR that could break records and be the best in the business at the end of his career.
and a tackle that has short arms and no nasty streak.

Trading up would be a huge mistake, we need our picks and need to get some more. Let one of the other teams trade up with us, grab a couple more picks, and stock up on the solid talent that is in this draft all the way through the 4th round.

[TBChucky]

I see this trade as very possible. I`ll save my judgement till after the season. But CJ would look great in Pewter & Red!!!!!!

[tampabayfan]

I think this year there seems to be a lot of trade talks more than other years. if that happens or not--we wont know until next month. I guess all the mock drafts and get big eyes over a big name player is fun and all, but reality is CJ will be gone by the 4th pick. If we want him we either have to make the trade or keep our spot and take the best guy at that spot. I dont see CJ as going to suddenly make the team better when we have areas like D-line and O-line that a player can come in day one and make an impact. AS long as they dont do something dumb like draft a qb when we have 6 on the roster now--I'll be okay.