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BUCfan90
05-30-2007, 12:15 PM
For all the people that really liked weddle I am just curious how much better you think weddle is then tanard?

obviously Tanard can cover people just as good or better then weddle considering he played corner?
So do you think we got somebody just about as good as weddle but about 60 picks later?

Just curious.

BucFan LHT
05-30-2007, 01:48 PM
I think Weddle is a little bit better b/c he's proven he can play any position in the secondary. But nothing is proven til the hit the field.

maryjanewatson
05-30-2007, 05:58 PM
I'm a huge Tanard fan, but I think Weddle is the better player.

As it stands, though, Tanard in the 4th > Weddle in the 2nd

48 SS
05-30-2007, 07:03 PM
Weddle > Tanard + Piscitelli

I like Piscitelli better then Tanrd though...

DeadEagle
05-30-2007, 09:00 PM
I think we gained more by taking Sears, then landing Jackson later than taking Weddle and getting a lesser OG later.



Besides, our secondary should be leaps and bounds better with the increased pass rush.

UCLABUCSFAN
05-30-2007, 09:27 PM
Yeah, Weddle is a better player than Tanard Jackson.

Monty'sCircus
05-31-2007, 08:01 AM
You have to throw out the character card -
Jackson is a gamble.
Hopefully he can keep his act together, but I fear he will turn out very similar to Dwight Smith

Corsair
05-31-2007, 08:53 AM
Yeah, guys who break up fights are bad news.

BlackHawk
05-31-2007, 10:37 AM
Weddle > Tanard + Piscitelli

I like Piscitelli better then Tanrd though...
Wow...I don't know about that...

Weddle is a lot more versatile...but the way the draft fell I think we made the right move taking an OG in the 2nd and passing on Weddle...

...now the player we picked as our OG is another discussion...still trying to figure out why you take Sears with Blaylock still on the board...

Monty'sCircus
05-31-2007, 11:33 AM
I would like to 2nd that notion

TheChefO
05-31-2007, 11:34 AM
...now the player we picked as our OG is another discussion...still trying to figure out why you take Sears with Blaylock still on the board...

Versatility.

Sears can play any spot on the line aside from Center (though he could probably learn that as well).

Not say Sears would be a great LT, but I imagine he would be a bit better than AD. :winkretro

Though I agree, for a pure Guard, Blalock would have been a beast on the line. But the versatility of Sears enables us to keep less lineman on the roster while maintaining quality depth.

Monty'sCircus
05-31-2007, 11:36 AM
Jackson broke up a fight and got stabbed in process -
Now I'm no detective by any means, but I have to call BS on that one

Monty'sCircus
05-31-2007, 11:47 AM
Versatility.

Sears can play any spot on the line aside from Center (though he could probably learn that as well).

Not say Sears would be a great LT, but I imagine he would be a bit better than AD. :winkretro

Though I agree, for a pure Guard, Blalock would have been a beast on the line. But the versatility of Sears enables us to keep less lineman on the roster while maintaining quality depth.

Blalock could easily have been considered the best G. propsect in this draft, had he played the position his senior yr.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I hope the bucs saw something fantastic in Sears to take him over Blalock.

As it stands the bucs took a "Todd Washington" type player over a potential All-Pro.

JamesWilder32
05-31-2007, 12:22 PM
For all the people that really liked weddle I am just curious how much better you think weddle is then tanard?

obviously Tanard can cover people just as good or better then weddle considering he played corner?
So do you think we got somebody just about as good as weddle but about 60 picks later?

Just curious.

Weddle played CB in college most of the time.. I think Weddle is probably a better prospect in the immediate future and can help out inthe return game. Jackson is being projected at FS so we have to wait and see with him.

JamesWilder32
05-31-2007, 12:23 PM
You have to throw out the character card -
Jackson is a gamble.
Hopefully he can keep his act together, but I fear he will turn out very similar to Dwight Smith

And that's a bad thing?

TheChefO
05-31-2007, 01:23 PM
I hope the bucs saw something fantastic in Sears to take him over Blalock.

Perhaps they saw something not so fantastic in Blalock ... character concern?

OP: T Jax

I like the fact we picked him up in the 4th instead of Weddle with the 2a. Though having Weddle and Sabby would have been my dream safety tandem, I think T Jax will do just fine.

Monty'sCircus
05-31-2007, 02:09 PM
And that's a bad thing?
Im not overly worried about it, I havent ate at McDonalds in yrs

Monty'sCircus
05-31-2007, 02:11 PM
Perhaps they saw something not so fantastic in Blalock ... character concern?

OP: T Jax

I like the fact we picked him up in the 4th instead of Weddle with the 2a. Though having Weddle and Sabby would have been my dream safety tandem, I think T Jax will do just fine.

I'm not positive about his Character, but I do recall Blalock was one of the more intelligent players in this draft. I believe he had the highest Wonderlic score this yr. Which of course should be taken with a grain of salt.

JudgeDredd
06-02-2007, 12:32 AM
Weddle > Tanard + Piscitelli

I like Piscitelli better then Tanrd though...
I agree.

Weddle just seems to have "it". That absolute hunger. Renewable self motivation. Just that thing that makes him good.

MarleyMon81
06-02-2007, 11:25 AM
You have to throw out the character card -
Jackson is a gamble.
Hopefully he can keep his act together, but I fear he will turn out very similar to Dwight Smith

Jackson is not a Dwight Smith type of character. Dwight seemed to have a quick temper and made stupid, rash actions. Jackson was wrong place, wrong time within an altercation. Tried to reportidly play peace maker and was hurt.

This is not brandishing a weapon to a motorist in traffic or a pellet gun at a fast food restaurant.

TheChefO
06-02-2007, 12:17 PM
I'm not positive about his Character, but I do recall Blalock was one of the more intelligent players in this draft. I believe he had the highest Wonderlic score this yr. Which of course should be taken with a grain of salt.

Regarding Blalock, the Ravens also passed on him for Grubbs. And IMO, Blalock seemed to be the better choice from what I knew of both players. Not that Grubbs isn't capable, just that Blalock seemed to have the edge in strength (and seemingly, intelligence). Yet, they skipped him. Must be a character questionmark somewhere with Blalock.

CrAsH_oVeRdRiVe
06-02-2007, 05:03 PM
Jackson broke up a fight and got stabbed in process -
Now I'm no detective by any means, but I have to call BS on that one

Why? That's a ridiculous claim by you. I've seen such events happen in my life (luckily the friend who got stabbed for playing peacemaker was wearing a bubble jakcet which absorbed most of the knife) and have been part of them too. It's not hard to believe someone gets stabbed for the wrong reasons, happens all the time.

Monty'sCircus
06-04-2007, 10:37 AM
Why? That's a ridiculous claim by you. I've seen such events happen in my life (luckily the friend who got stabbed for playing peacemaker was wearing a bubble jakcet which absorbed most of the knife) and have been part of them too. It's not hard to believe someone gets stabbed for the wrong reasons, happens all the time.
Then I have to ask the question, why did so many other teams past on him? A lot of draft sites/nits had him labeled a 2nd rd pick. So why did he fall?

TheChefO
06-04-2007, 11:21 AM
Then I have to ask the question, why did so many other teams past on him? A lot of draft sites/nits had him labeled a 2nd rd pick. So why did he fall?

Questionmark.

For teams that did not feel comfortable in their knowledge (or lack thereof) about the kid's character, they passed on him for someone else.

The Bucs staff were in a unique situation having coached him for an extended period of time in the senior bowl.

maryjanewatson
06-04-2007, 12:32 PM
Jackson has no legit character concerns. By the logic of some, if you get hit in a bar fight you're trying to break up, you have "character concerns." And "conduct deterimental" usually means he missed bedcheck.

Jackson fell because he ran a 4.52 40 (and he was considered to be a CB prospect), he played on a terrible Cuse team, and he didn't pick off many passes.

You want character concerns? Try Antonio Bryant.

gdawg4953
06-04-2007, 02:11 PM
I wish we picked weddle at 2a and thomas with our 4th rounder. Sears might turn out to be pretty good, but I don't think that we really needed another guard.

TheChefO
06-04-2007, 06:36 PM
I wish we picked weddle at 2a and thomas with our 4th rounder. Sears might turn out to be pretty good, but I don't think that we really needed another guard.

He added quality depth to the line. He either starts at LG (likely) or backs up the Guard/Tackle positions and Davis/Buenning starts.

Ideally:
LT-Petitgout - Davis
LG-Sears - Lehr
C-Buenning - Wade
RG-Joseph - Lehr
RT-Trueblood - Davis

I agree though, it would have been sweet to have Sabby and Weddle.

FLA-ORGator666
06-05-2007, 04:47 AM
For all the people that really liked weddle I am just curious how much better you think weddle is then tanard?

obviously Tanard can cover people just as good or better then weddle considering he played corner?
So do you think we got somebody just about as good as weddle but about 60 picks later?

Just curious.
Woo, another Buc fan in Oregon!

To answer the question, Weddle is a better player than Tanard, but getting Sabby and Tanard where we did may be better value.