Bucs Take Josh Johnson

[austinincollege]

happy?

[SleepyH]

YEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!

Dre Moore and Josh Johnson!! Beautiful!!

[gdawg4953]

wasted pick again

[Bucko40]

Draft grade is now a F. Wasted pick. This guy will never see the field in the NFL.

We will be looking at a top 5 selection again next year.

[Bucs-Fan-N-BigD]

Another stupid quaterback. This pick is not a surprise, but just how many QBs can make this team?

[galloway123]

Draft grade is now a F. Wasted pick. This guy will never see the field in the NFL.

We will be looking at a top 5 selection again next year.

Just because of a bad 5th round pick?, which actually could be a steal if Gruden can develop him.:rotf: :rotf:

[KiffininCanton]

Once again Gruden's win now attitude is unwilling to spend a first round pick on the qb of the future and waits until day 2 to pick a project.

[K Preem.]

Draft grade is now a F. Wasted pick. This guy will never see the field in the NFL.

We will be looking at a top 5 selection again next year.

The Crow will be waiting Nostradamus...

[KiffininCanton]

Just because of a bad 5th round pick?, which actually could be a steal if Gruden can develop him.:rotf: :rotf:

That is something to laugh at

[Frenzy Bucs 47]

Draft grade is now a F. Wasted pick. This guy will never see the field in the NFL.

We will be looking at a top 5 selection again next year.

I heartly agree, Gruden is good as gone next season and Bruce Allen needs to go.

It's time for Glazer to clean the house and start all over

[galloway123]

That is something to laugh at

I doubt he can, but if he could he would be the next Jeff Garcia.

[KiffininCanton]

I doubt he can, but if he could he would be the next Jeff Garcia.

That's a good thing?

[Clayton80future]

30-4 record as starting QB

113:15 TD-INT ratio

43:1 during season season



Even with the level of competition, that's mightily impressive and shows he's at least decent at making decisions. Not to mention a 4.5 forty yard dash.

[gdawg4953]

more like a poor mans slash

[Black Sheep1]

josh johnson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Selmon63]

more like a poor mans slash

Slash was a poor man's slash. Your hysteria is ridiculous.

[Bucko40]

Just because of a bad 5th round pick?, which actually could be a steal if Gruden can develop him.:rotf: :rotf:

Now that's funny. Gruden develop a QB.

No impact players with the exception of Dre Moore. I'll raise my grade to a D if that will make you happy.

[bricKtoP]

im at work, someone let me know what the talking heads say about this pick. dont know much on him

[Pirate4Life]

At least he already knows the entire offense word for word...

Unlike Simms and Grads.

[SamuraiBuc]

I admit I didnt know a lot about him but his scouting report looks good with proper instruction.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/josh-johnson?id=264

[Chebington]

Josh Johnson has amazing numbers. You can't get those in 7-on-7. I think he'll be a good developmental guy.

This heralds the release of Grads and/or Simms. Good riddance.

[galloway123]

Now that's funny. Gruden develop a QB.

No impact players with the exception of Dre Moore. I'll raise my grade to a D if that will make you happy.

Like I said i'm not saying he can. But with the help of Garcia.

Bruce can't throw the ball more than 20 yards.
Simms is done and played servicible when he did play, not mobile, bad WCO fit
Luke McCown is still a work in progress plus he does make some WTF throws
Griese shows he could rock it when he was in here.

So don't write it off just yet.

[DungyWasHere]

I was hoping for him actually...

draftguys.com has this on him...

http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys-tv/profile---josh-johnson---qb?autoplay=true

I think he has real sleeper potential...

[Miller4Prez64]

As long as he doesn't see the football field outside of preseason this year, don't throw him to the wolves too early like we did with Gradkowski.

[Cadillac Kid 22]

Draft grade is now a F. Wasted pick. This guy will never see the field in the NFL.

We will be looking at a top 5 selection again next year.

I'm sorry, but no matter who we take or don't take in the FIFTH round will NOT effect our record next year....

[SamuraiBuc]

Some of his passes in the combine looked very bad......but he is a raw talent so I will be patient with him.

[navybuc81]

I don't know much about the guy, but unlike some of you, I'm going to actually wait and see how these guys turn out....instead of giving them an F and calling them busts before they even take the field. Crazy thought....I know.

[MikeM_813]

Once again Gruden's win now attitude is unwilling to spend a first round pick on the qb of the future and waits until day 2 to pick a project.

I don't think its a win now attitude. I think that Gruden goes for the projects who remind him of himself when he was a college quarterback. What he forgets is that he was a HORRIBLE quarterback.

[TimBucs218]

have you doubters actually seen any film on this guy (just wondering) because he has the mechanics and the head for the game from all appearances. He needs to work on some things, but basically he is low on the draft boards because he comes from a smaller school, which makes sense. But i think he was a steal at this spot and we do seriously need some more potential at the QB position. I think Johnson be 2nd on the depth chart by the end of the year and possibly be our starter after Garcia goes AARP.

[galloway123]

I think there is talent if you can run a 4.4 at the combine as a qb.

And then go on to have 43 TD's and 1 pick.

[TampaBay012286]

happy?

finally this draft is shaping up to be pretty good

[h-town baller]

finally this draft is shaping up to be pretty good

I agree!

[buc4evr]

I was hoping for him actually...

draftguys.com has this on him...

http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys-tv/profile---josh-johnson---qb?autoplay=true

I think he has real sleeper potential...

Thanks , the guy has an NFL arm with great drop back and mechanics and runs a 4.4 40. Kind of like Vick but can pass. 176 passer rating is obscene. Lets give the kid a chance before we all go postal. After all it's only a 5th round pick.

[TampaBay012286]

Thanks , the guy has an NFL arm with great drop back and mechanics and runs a 4.4 40. Kind of like Vick but can pass. 176 passer rating is obscene. Lets give the kid a chance before we all go postal. After all it's only a 5th round pick.

i honestly thought we would take him as high as the 3rd, so getting him in the 5th is great value to me

[gdawg4953]

I agree!

Agreeing with the dumbest posters on the board isn't a good thing.

[SamuraiBuc]

Yeah all the clips Ive dug up show this kid has some talent. His mechanics are very good. He appears to get a wobble affect on his deep passes (as his scouting report said) but all in all I think this pick has potential.

[Clayton80future]

finally this draft is shaping up to be pretty good

It has been all this time, IMO.

[JudgeDredd]

Absolutely!

Check out the video in the bottom of the page:
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/joshjohnson.html


I knew that if there was any QB Gruden would take in the draft it would be this one. He's his guy, 100%.
We all know deep down Gruden would've loved to have had a chance to coach Vick- this guy is no Vick. But he does have great speed and footwork. Again- NOT VICK. Just one more tool Gruden always wants to be able to have a back door option on all his plays.

The real reason this is a Gruden guy is he knows football. Period. It's like he was made to digest Grudens playbook. He has the release and mechanics that are needed to run the WCO. And, unlike Simms, won't choke in the huddle just trying to spit a play out.

A lot of people think he would flop in the NFL, and it's true. He would flop on a lot of teams and in a lot of other systems. But it seems like he was born to run the WCO offense. He is made for this offense more than Simms is made not to run it. One year behind Garcia- enter new era.

[frankdp]

I love how you can make this call so early in the game. I get the vibe you are a glass half empty guy. Am I wrong?

Draft grade is now a F. Wasted pick. This guy will never see the field in the NFL.

We will be looking at a top 5 selection again next year.

[galloway123]

I love how you can make this call so early in the game. I get the vibe you are a glass half empty guy. Am I wrong?

Hahaha Frank, i'm pretty sure I saw somebody mention that about him earlier. I dunno he must really like the color red because he sure as hell hates this team and what it does. GO be a cowgirl fan they have all the explosive playmakers you could ever want.

[Bucko40]

I love how you can make this call so early in the game. I get the vibe you are a glass half empty guy. Am I wrong?

Yup your wrong. I still hope the Bucs will do well but I'm not going to get my hopes up this season.

I had high hopes that this draft would help the Bucs maintain the Division Championship. After seeing what the Bucs have not done in this draft and what the Saints and Panthers have done it is hard to believe that with the Bucs schedule that we will do very well this season.

[Bucko40]

Hahaha Frank, i'm pretty sure I saw somebody mention that about him earlier. I dunno he must really like the color red because he sure as hell hates this team and what it does. GO be a cowgirl fan they have all the explosive playmakers you could ever want.

You guys are obviouly new around here. I've been on the BB since it's inception. I have been a huge Bucs supporter but what has happened this weekend is wrong IMO. It has done nothing to help this year and that will hurt our team in the short haul.

[frankdp]

There are a lotta football lightweights here. I guess this time of year brings them out. I think they would make good cowgirls....

Hahaha Frank, i'm pretty sure I saw somebody mention that about him earlier. I dunno he must really like the color red because he sure as hell hates this team and what it does. GO be a cowgirl fan they have all the explosive playmakers you could ever want.

[bricKtoP]

"Johnson is an extremely raw prospect who happens to have top flight talent. He did improve in each of his seasons playing QB. He had an outstanding East-West Shrine Game where he passed for 78 yards with a TD. He also rushed for 91 yards while earning the game's MVP trophy. He played very well against good competition. His performance at the game and the practices leading up to it had the effect of elevating his stock from a late rounder or even free agency, to either the fourth or fifth round area. He does have a world of talent and with some mechanical corrections, there's no telling how far he can go in the NFL. A true sleeper who has better ability and intangibles than Seneca Wallace when the former came out of Iowa State. "

[galloway123]

You guys are obviouly new around here. I've been on the BB since it's inception. I have been a huge Bucs supporter but what has happened this weekend is wrong IMO. It has done nothing to help this year and that will hurt our team in the short haul.

You ***** about every pick we make because we don't pick up the sexy pick in every round. Even if we did you would still ***** see below. We got some playmakers on defense and some nice depth on offense.

Even that can be hammered too. Dexter Jackson ran a 4.32 and is an elusive player all round. That's pretty sexy to me. Although he will be a work in progress but I think he could be a poor-mans Steve Smith further on down the road.

At first I thought omg this draft sucks. Open your eyes a little bit and you might see what you like. Because I do.

[bricKtoP]

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/josh_johnson.htm



great read

[Greg in DC]

I heartly agree, Gruden is good as gone next season and Bruce Allen needs to go.

It's time for Glazer to clean the house and start all over



Gruden and Allen will both be around for a long time.

[Wiscon Buc]

we passed on Brohme to draft Johnson...what a stupid move ...Johnson will NEVER be the QB Brohme will

[Dominating D 55]

30-4 record as starting QB

113:15 TD-INT ratio

43:1 during season season



Even with the level of competition, that's mightily impressive and shows he's at least decent at making decisions. Not to mention a 4.5 forty yard dash.

That's why he will be a solid pick, to throw that many TD's to only 1 pick is amazing at any level of play.

[TampaBay012286]

we passed on Brohme to draft Johnson...what a stupid move ...Johnson will NEVER be the QB Brohme will

he could be better than brohm though :cool:

[gdawg4953]

he could be better than brohm though :cool:

you've been smoking talib's weed?

[bricKtoP]

you've been smoking talib's weed?

are you saying he couldn't be better than brohm?

[gdawg4953]

are you saying he couldn't be better than brohm?

definitely

[Miller4Prez64]

Josh Johnson has a bigger arm, is more athetlic, and a lot more mobile than Brohm, and doesn't have injury problems. The only QB I wanted the Bucs to take a chance on was this guy, ton of potential, and not a huge risk in doing it.

[gdawg4953]

Josh Johnson has a bigger arm, is more athetlic, and a lot more mobile than Brohm, and doesn't have injury problems. The only QB I wanted the Bucs to take a chance on was this guy, ton of potential, and not a huge risk in doing it.

You just described Adrian McPherson.

[LuckyTheDonkey]

People keep posting about how much this guy knows football. He scored a 15 on the Wonderlic. It doesn't seem like he knows much of anything.

[Keyshawn20-04]

People keep posting about how much this guy knows football. He scored a 15 on the Wonderlic. It doesn't seem like he knows much of anything.

So the Wonderlic consists of questions about post patterns, crosses, go patterns, and defensive schemes?

Comprehending math equations and synonyms is different than comprehending a sport, my friend. I'll give this kid that chance to prove his knowledge on the field.

[LuckyTheDonkey]

So the Wonderlic consists of questions about post patterns, crosses, go patterns, and defensive schemes?

Comprehending math equations and synonyms is different than comprehending a sport, my friend. I'll give this kid that chance to prove his knowledge on the field.

There are some math equations and synonyms, but most of the questions fall under simple logic. The correlation between high Wonderlic scores and success at the QB position cannot be ignored. There is a reason this test is administered. I guess it's possible for someone to be a genius when it comes to football, and a moron for everything else, but it's not likely.

[JamesWilder32]

we passed on Brohme to draft Johnson...what a stupid move ...Johnson will NEVER be the QB Brohme will

OUt of every QB taken in this draft, Johnson was the most capable and best fit to run our offense. There is no evidence to support your belief we wanted Brohm.. and if you did happen to find evidence it would have clearly have been a smokescreen. Teams don't trade away from players that are falling unexpectedly, they trade up to take them (see Browns and Quinn last season).

[JamesWilder32]

You just described Adrian McPherson.

Yeah, and he just described Brett Favre, Tony Romo, Donavan McNabb... so what? Of course Johnson has the advantage of all of those guys in that he comes to the Bucs already knowing our offense.

[nmw0917]

JJ seems like a good pick to me! Im much happier seeing the Bucs take JJ in the 5th rather than Brohm in the 2nd! :eek: Overall I am pretty happy with the Bucs draft this year. I wouldve liked to see a bigger, more athletic receiver like Sweed taken rather than a guy like D Jax but I guess we will see how all of these guys pan out next season! The only guy I see making an immediate impact is Talib and Im excited to see how the kid plays. Hopefully the kids we have taken in the draft can come in and contribute to a winning season for our Bucs! GO BUCS!!

[galloway123]

JJ seems like a good pick to me! Im much happier seeing the Bucs take JJ in the 5th rather than Brohm in the 2nd! :eek: Overall I am pretty happy with the Bucs draft this year. I wouldve liked to see a bigger, more athletic receiver like Sweed taken rather than a guy like D Jax but I guess we will see how all of these guys pan out next season! The only guy I see making an immediate impact is Talib and Im excited to see how the kid plays. Hopefully the kids we have taken in the draft can come in and contribute to a winning season for our Bucs! GO BUCS!!

I think DJ can come in and contribute right away at KR/PR, Dre Moore will be put in the rotation and will do some nice things.

[Che-Che2837]

I think they should of took a chance on Brennan, Johnson I think is still a good late round pick but I think Brennan would of worked out great in Gruden's system. Brennan is a thrower, small, under sized, but can still throw an accurate ball, he could of adapt to the short throwing.

[JamesWilder32]

we passed on Brohme to draft Johnson...what a stupid move ...Johnson will NEVER be the QB Brohme will

If you're such an expert on Brian Brohm and his pro potential, why is it you don't even know how to spell his name? Let me guess, something Kiper said... and you're not really sure what it was because you were put into a trance while watching his hair..???

[JamesWilder32]

I think they should of took a chance on Brennan, Johnson I think is still a good late round pick but I think Brennan would of worked out great in Gruden's system. Brennan is a thrower, small, under sized, but can still throw an accurate ball, he could of adapt to the short throwing.

You obviously know nothing of Josh Johnson.

[Che-Che2837]

Should of took a chance on Brennan instead of Johnson.

[JamesWilder32]

Sure... We should have signed the physically inferior (in every way) QB that played in a gimmick offense that doesn't translate well into the NFL instead of the physically superior QB that played in the same offense we use.. makes sense. Why didn't the FO think of that?

Oh... I know, because you're a casual fan and you have no idea who Johnson is and Brennan is one of the few names you recognize.

[Che-Che2837]

I'm not knocking the pick on Johnson, he can throw the deep ball well, all I'm saying is they should of took a chance on Brennan and shut up the Kiper's and Jaws's out there that think they know whats best and whats not. Johnson will shut them up when he lights it up in a yr or two. Kiper was so high on Simms when he came out and so far he hasnn't shown nothing yet. Even before the injury.

[galloway123]

I'm not knocking the pick on Johnson, he can throw the deep ball well, all I'm saying is they should of took a chance on Brennan and shut up the Kiper's and Jaws's out there that think they know whats best and whats not. Johnson will shut them up when he lights it up in a yr or two. Kiper was so high on Simms when he came out and so far he hasnn't shown nothing yet. Even before the injury.


So you are saying we should base our picks on what Jaws and Mel do and don't like?:rotf: :rotf:


Simms was a polar bear in the Amazon.

[Che-Che2837]

no I'm nothing saying that we should base our picks on them, your not getting what I'm trying to get across. What's your problem man? Why so negative towards peoples responses? We are all fans here on this site, right?

[galloway123]

no I'm nothing saying that we should base our picks on them, your not getting what I'm trying to get across. What's your problem man? Why so negative towards peoples responses? We are all fans here on this site, right?


Just some aren't as bright as others.

Dare I say you're not the brightest.

[LuckyTheDonkey]

I thought we wanted intelligent quarterbacks. I guess that's not going to happen this year.

[Che-Che2837]

Hey it takes one to know one, right! Saw some of your replys and your not to far off either. galloway123

[galloway123]

Hey it takes one to know one, right! Saw some of your replys and your not to far off either. galloway123

Wow that just further justifies my point. Chea.

[Che-Che2837]

Don't get so sensitive! :)

[JamesWilder32]

I thought we wanted intelligent quarterbacks. I guess that's not going to happen this year.

From what I understand, Johnson is very intelligent, according to Jim and John Harbaugh... what makes you think he isn't intelligent?

[Corsair]

I thought we wanted intelligent quarterbacks. I guess that's not going to happen this year.

Jim Harbaugh believes he is one of the best young students of the game. Everyone who has ever coached him has said that he has a great football aptitude. His offense in college included as much verbiage as Gruden's play calling.

[galloway123]

From what I understand, Johnson is very intelligent, according to Jim and John Harbaugh... what makes you think he isn't intelligent?

It's because he's.........

[LuckyTheDonkey]

From what I understand, Johnson is very intelligent, according to Jim and John Harbaugh... what makes you think he isn't intelligent?

He scored a 15 on the Wonderlic. For a QB that is shameful.

[Corsair]

From what I understand, Johnson is very intelligent, according to Jim and John Harbaugh... what makes you think he isn't intelligent?

His wonderlic wasn't the best.

Red flag, true... but I also listen to coaches who know his game experience.

[galloway123]

Don't get so sensitive! :)

:grinno: Says the guy that we are all just fans on the board and that being negative to stupid comments is a bad thing.

[JamesWilder32]

He scored a 15 on the Wonderlic. For a QB that is shameful.

Roethlisberger didn't light it up... Vince Young scored a 5 or 6. Terry Bradshaw was an idiot on paper. While scoring a 15 is not great 21 is average and considering he probably didn't get to prepare like large school prospects did and his agent sucks because he's a nobody he probably was barely prepared for it.

His football IQ is plenty and he knows the WCO and as far as I'm concerned that's the knowledge I care about most.

[LuckyTheDonkey]

Roethlisberger didn't light it up... Vince Young scored a 5 or 6. Terry Bradshaw was an idiot on paper. While scoring a 15 is not great 21 is average and considering he probably didn't get to prepare like large school prospects did and his agent sucks because he's a nobody he probably was barely prepared for it.

His football IQ is plenty and he knows the WCO and as far as I'm concerned that's the knowledge I care about most.

Ok, well Roethlisberger scored a 25, which is above the average person (21), and above the average QB (24), so I'm not sure why you brought Ben up.

Bradshaw....where do I begin? Every rule is going to have it's exceptions. Terry is the shining example that Wonderlic opponents love to use. How much have the demands at QB changed since Bradshaw took a snap? Most of all, from a common sense point of view, has anyone ever accused Terry Bradshaw of being smart?

On to VY. I am not ready to put this guy in the hall. He had alot of stuff go his way in his rookie year. And his second year was mediocre at best.

Why don't we talk about the legends that have scored high on the Wonderlic?

[LuckyTheDonkey]

It's because he's.........

I resent the implication.

[buc-fanatic]

we passed on Brohme to draft Johnson...what a stupid move ...Johnson will NEVER be the QB Brohme will

Your damn right. Johnson will be better.

[buc-fanatic]

People keep posting about how much this guy knows football. He scored a 15 on the Wonderlic. It doesn't seem like he knows much of anything.

Terry Bradshaw is in the HoF. 'Nuff said on IQ.

[buc-fanatic]

Look we shouldn't judge our draft this early. The only way to judge it is to sit and wait a good 5 years. Who knows what'll happen. I mean didn't like every texan fan cry and wanted to go insane when they drafted Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush? Williams had 14 sacks last season. Bush rushed for under 600 yards and 4 td's, and his biggest carrer highlight is being decimated by Sheldon Brown (as shown here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h7qQDaCz9I).

I honestly was a hugh Josh Johnson fan, and I don't think there's been as a good as a AA QB since Steve McNair put up numbers that almost won him the heisman despite playing at Alcorn St.

Wonderlic scores are a good measure of intellegence, but doesn't always compute properly. A score of 15 puts him in the 90-100 IQ range or below average to average intellegence. Sometimes a player can be football smart with out being intellegence smart.

[maryjanewatson]

He scored a 15 on the Wonderlic. For a QB that is shameful.

Signed,

Dan Marino, 13
Vince Young, 6

and

David Klingler, 32

[JamesWilder32]

Ok, well Roethlisberger scored a 25, which is above the average person (21), and above the average QB (24), so I'm not sure why you brought Ben up.

Bradshaw....where do I begin? Every rule is going to have it's exceptions. Terry is the shining example that Wonderlic opponents love to use. How much have the demands at QB changed since Bradshaw took a snap? Most of all, from a common sense point of view, has anyone ever accused Terry Bradshaw of being smart?

On to VY. I am not ready to put this guy in the hall. He had alot of stuff go his way in his rookie year. And his second year was mediocre at best.

Why don't we talk about the legends that have scored high on the Wonderlic?

And that shows you how my brain works in weird circles. I erred in naming Roethlisberger, former Miami, Ohio U QB, current Pittsburgh starter, accidentally mixing him up with former Pittsburgh University QB, former Miami Dolphin All-Pro... It was Marino with the extremely low score, and as MJW pointed it out, he got a 13. That really screwed him up.

Great scores? Is Pat McInally a legend? He punted for the Bengals for a while and was the first to ever post a perfect score. I'm sure that really helped him out on the field, being able to know that footspeed + leg strength/leg weight * velocity of dropped ball = a punt or that height/length * force = perfect trajectory on every punt.

[JamesWilder32]

Didn't Rob Johnson do extremely well on the test, too? Or was it David Carr? Whichever one of them it was you would think that they would have enough brains to figure out how to throw the ball away.

[thedestroyer]

Signed,

Dan Marino, 13
Vince Young, 6

and

David Klingler, 32

Haha. Yes! That's great.

[buc-fanatic]

Derek Anderson, 19
Alex Smith, 40

Rex Grossman, 29
Joey Harrington, 32
David Garrard, 14

Chris wienke, 29
Donavon McNabb, 14

Ryan Leaf, 27
Steve McNair, 15

Dan Marino, 15
Jim Kelly, 15
Terry Bradshaw, 15

Alkali Smith, 26



http://www.unc.edu/~mirabile/Wonderlic.htm

[buctildeath]

All you idiots posting that this is a wasted pick are just plain out stupid & obviously have never seen the kid play.. he has tons of potential.. More then most the QBs on our roster.

[real bucs fan]

The guy has a great physical package, and was dominant at his level, while playing in a very simlar offense to what we run. Well worth a 5th as he has special potential...

[xljohn316]

we passed on Brohme to draft Johnson...what a stupid move ...Johnson will NEVER be the QB Brohme will

Huh?? The Brohme I was looking at sure wasn't available in the 5th round.

[rjb1816]

I have close relationships with his wrs since they are my good friends. And they are amazed by his ability to read defenses...he's not a typical mobile qb. He'll look to pass first and he knows the west coast offense like the back of his hand thanks to Harbaugh, who ran the pro offense since he first became the starter. This kid will be a great nfl qb in a few years, just needs to put on a little weight and build the arm strength...other than that, he has all the tools upstairs to be a winning nfl qb. Also, my buddy who was his top WR signed with the bucs to workout at mini camp next weekend, i'm guessing it is somewhat of a tryout/invite to offseason workouts. BTW i'm a charger fan...but am happy for you guys and my friends

[real bucs fan]

I have close relationships with his wrs since they are my good friends. And they are amazed by his ability to read defenses...he's not a typical mobile qb. He'll look to pass first and he knows the west coast offense like the back of his hand thanks to Harbaugh, who ran the pro offense since he first became the starter. This kid will be a great nfl qb in a few years, just needs to put on a little weight and build the arm strength...other than that, he has all the tools upstairs to be a winning nfl qb. Also, my buddy who was his top WR signed with the bucs to workout at mini camp next weekend, i'm guessing it is somewhat of a tryout/invite to offseason workouts. BTW i'm a charger fan...but am happy for you guys and my friends


That's the one thing that worries me. He looks more like a WR than a QB right now. And while he's in great shape, he simply has a very slight physique for a QB. Not sure if he has the frame to add much weight. However with his mobility hopefully it doesn't hinder him.

[thedestroyer]

All you idiots posting that this is a wasted pick are just plain out stupid & obviously have never seen the kid play.. he has tons of potential.. More then most the QBs on our roster.

As far as potential, I would say he easily has the most of any QB on our roster. I love this pick in the 5th, and hope he can live up to that potential!

[rjb1816]

My friend is WR Wes Doyle

6'4 with great hands and good speed for his size. Gruden was very impressed with him at their pro day. Hopefully he gets invited to training camp, because having watched him play and some of the wrs the bucs have (no offense) he could earn a roster spot because he just flat out catches everything. Him and Josh leave for Tampa on Thurs

[Pirate4Life]

My friend is WR Wes Doyle

6'4 with great hands and good speed for his size. Gruden was very impressed with him at their pro day. Hopefully he gets invited to training camp, because having watched him play and some of the wrs the bucs have (no offense) he could earn a roster spot because he just flat out catches everything. Him and Josh leave for Tampa on Thurs

Ha you know Wes? I go to USD too and played ball with Josh (and helped him get through Sophomore Spanish class).

I have seen more games of his than anyone on this board, and all I can say is the kid is for real. I have never seen such a smart QB, or one with so much potential. And that's saying something, cause I've played with Kyle Wright, Colt McCoy, and a number of other guys.

He needs to put on weight, but he certainly isn't another Vick. I laugh at anyone who says this is a "wasted" pick. HE WAS A 5th ROUNDER!
On top of that, he already knows the entire offense nearly word for word, and all the reads he needs to make.

Anyone who says something negative about him obviously has never seen him practice, watch film, or workout.
And he can't do anything about the opposing teams skill levels. 1-AA is what it is, but you'll see the transition will be smooth to the NFL for him.
You're all welcome to knock him, but when he comes into training camp and lights it up, just be man enough to eat your crow.

We're VERY lucky to get him in the 5th.

My BOLD prediction (and I'll be happy to eat crow): He's 2nd string by Week 1.

Carry on...but do some research first before you come in and talk about his Wonderlic and how he plays at a "D2" school.

[rjb1816]

Ha you know Wes? I go to USD too and played ball with Josh (and helped him get through Sophomore Spanish class).

I have seen more games of his than anyone on this board, and all I can say is the kid is for real. I have never seen such a smart QB, or one with so much potential. And that's saying something, cause I've played with Kyle Wright, Colt McCoy, and a number of other guys.

He needs to put on weight, but he certainly isn't another Vick. I laugh at anyone who says this is a "wasted" pick. HE WAS A 5th ROUNDER!
On top of that, he already knows the entire offense nearly word for word, and all the reads he needs to make.

Anyone who says something negative about him obviously has never seen him practice, watch film, or workout.
And he can't do anything about the opposing teams skill levels. 1-AA is what it is, but you'll see the transition will be smooth to the NFL for him.
You're all welcome to knock him, but when he comes into training camp and lights it up, just be man enough to eat your crow.

We're VERY lucky to get him in the 5th.

My BOLD prediction (and I'll be happy to eat crow): He's 2nd string by Week 1.

Carry on...but do some research first before you come in and talk about his Wonderlic and how he plays at a "D2" school.

Yep, Wes is my boy...talked to him last night. He's pumped to be going to Tampa with Josh. I bet they put on a show at mini camp. Josh is a steal in the 5th round...like you said, he knows the entire offense and knows exactly where the ball needs to go in every situation. LOL at comparing the guy to vick...shows how much people know about this guy

[Pirate4Life]

Yep, Wes is my boy...talked to him last night. He's pumped to be going to Tampa with Josh. I bet they put on a show at mini camp. Josh is a steal in the 5th round...like you said, he knows the entire offense and knows exactly where the ball needs to go in every situation. LOL at comparing the guy to vick...shows how much people know about this guy

Yeah it's sad, but most people are going to hate him just because they've never heard of him or seen him play.
Wes has absolutely ridiculous hands. And he's not scared of anything, he'll go over the middle all game. If Tampa gives him a shot, he'd be a clutch possession receiver.

[galloway123]

I am really excited about this guy and how we got him in the 5th.

Very smart WCO passer with touch like no other.

The only knock on him is the level at which he played and dominated at.

It will take alot to adjust to the speed of the NFL but I think he can do it after a few years under Garcia.

[Keyshawn20-04]

Derek Anderson, 19
Alex Smith, 40

Rex Grossman, 29
Joey Harrington, 32
David Garrard, 14

Chris wienke, 29
Donavon McNabb, 14

Ryan Leaf, 27
Steve McNair, 15

Dan Marino, 15
Jim Kelly, 15
Terry Bradshaw, 15

Alkali Smith, 26



http://www.unc.edu/~mirabile/Wonderlic.htm

Thanks for proving my earlier post as valid. :urowned:

[westcoast101]

I have seen Josh play in person a few times, and he is going to be the real deal in the NFL. I guarantee that anyone who questions the pick or says that the Bucs should have taken Brennan has never seen Johnson play. I agree with whoever the previous poster is that said JJ has more potential than anyone on the current roster. After training camp, Josh will be 3rd on the depth chart, and it would not surprise me at all if he is #2 on the chart by some point in this season.