just played madden 09

[uscbucsfan]

I went to gamestop to preorder my copy for midnight and they had it on all systems for people to play. I played with the bucs who are rated a 91 overall. The graphics are amazing compared to last years...you fly in like a helicopter camera angle to the stadium and you see cars parking, people walking in. Then it goes inside the stadium and theres fireworks, players jumping up and down...people drinking on the deck of the pirate ship...pretty amazing. But the game play is a little different, not much, but who excpected it to be? I only played 1 drive against a kid playing with the Colts and scored with a couple runs by Dunn(who is our starter in the game) and threw a pass to Stovall for a TD, on D got an INT with Tanard Jackson...but it seems like it will be good

[BobLoblaw]

360 or ps3?

[uscbucsfan]

I played 360

[BobLoblaw]

Ive been a Madden player for many many years. Most of those years on the PS2, when I play madden on 360 I dont know if its the controls or what, but I never really was sold on it. I dont have a PS3 yet, and its going to be awhile till i get one. So I guess im going to have to bite the bullet and convert to the madden for 360. Maybe this year will change my mind.

[uscbucsfan]

its better for 360 than ps3...ps3 lags on madden

[kickstand]

PS3 lagged on Madden. They're both at 60 FPS now.

[Kyle]

Ive been a Madden player for many many years. Most of those years on the PS2, when I play madden on 360 I dont know if its the controls or what, but I never really was sold on it. I dont have a PS3 yet, and its going to be awhile till i get one. So I guess im going to have to bite the bullet and convert to the madden for 360. Maybe this year will change my mind.

Don't. Spend your money on a ps3. It's well worth it.. If you don't feel so pm me and I will tell you why it is well worth your money.

[galloway123]

Don't. Spend your money on a ps3. It's well worth it.. If you don't feel so pm me and I will tell you why it is well worth your money.

Ps3 is more expensive the graphics for 360 in most peoples minds are better. Online is way better way more games, it's just all around a better system except it does break down sometimes but i'm almost positive they worked out the kinks with that.

[Pantera Canes]

I only got to play the historic moment thing of trying to get the giants to score the gaming winning TD for the last super bowl. Seems pretty nice. I did not like the passing IQ as it used passesing routes I don't normally use. Still a pretty cool thing to keep track of how good you are and to make things more even.

If I can find time to play video games I would really like to get it.

As far as PS3 vs 360, both have strong points and weak ones. I have a 360 so I will lean that way this time but had a PS2 last generation. If it wasn't for the disk reading errors I would absolutly love it. I think the PS3 does have one advantage of having built in blu ray and originally was cheaper than the players. I don't think that is the case any more of it being cheaper alternative. I don't have any blu ray videos nor a big high def so doesn't affect me. Though planning on anything sci-fi or so that would need it to get blu ray so don't have to buy things twice. Yet will be a while. The blu ray advantage is dieing off I think.

[kickstand]

Go buy the one that more of your friends have so you can play online with them more. There's only negligible differences in the graphics (360 has more "vibrant" colors supposedly but you just have to adjust your TV settings for the PS3) while the PS3 has better Anti-Aliasing and generally better load times. Online support for PS3 is free and is just as useful as Xbox Live. Just go with the one more of your friends have.

[BobLoblaw]

Don't. Spend your money on a ps3. It's well worth it.. If you don't feel so pm me and I will tell you why it is well worth your money.

Well, I have a 360 now and not going to have 400-500 bucks to spend on a new system. Im going to get madden hopefully tomorrow, so ill just learn to live it it. Im sure ps3 offers some great things, but like i said, its going to be a few months.
Hell if i dont like it, i'll rent it for ps2, assuming they are even releasing a ps2 version...

[uscbucsfan]

I have both and like the 360 more...games on both platforms such as Rock Band and GTA are better, PS3 versions are usually buggy....but thats just my 2 cents, I use my PS3 as a blue ray player

[Buccs99]

There is a big update coming in the fall of the xbox live interface that will be very very nice. I suggest reading into it before choosing a ps3 over the 360.

[Kiffinsdisciple]

I would rather play with earnest graham as the starter i know that you can play with whoever you want but I think that he will be at the start of the season.

[uscbucsfan]

graham is only an 84...hes our 3rd RB(caddy is 85 with dunn), I was disapointed in that...but Davin is a 91 and our entire defense is incredible. Adams is an 88, Jackson 87, Ruud 89, June 91, Phillips 88, Talib 80...etc, I was also disapointed in our WR Aside from Galloway and Hilliard we dont have a WR over a 77...but there could be some truth to that

[Kyle]

There is a big update coming in the fall of the xbox live interface that will be very very nice. I suggest reading into it before choosing a ps3 over the 360.

You realize that that is probably just them trying to keep up with Playstation Home that is coming out in few weeks.

Kickstand is dead right about the graphics differences, but not only that the PS3 is going to be getting alot of exclusive games that won't even be possible on the 360 soon. MGS4 is the first of those.

The hardware on the PS3 is so advanced that when game developers completely tap it the 360 will be FORCED to release a new version. The Blu-ray isn't just for movies. It can store far more than a regular DVD and the Cell Processor in the PS3 can access far more much faster.

The PS3 has built in wifi.. for comparable wifi on the 360 you have to pay 100$. The Playstation network is free, and has home coming out. Xbox live costs alot of money.

Not only that but you can put linux on your ps3 and there are several emulators available after that for nes or snes or for web browsing. I don't officially endorse the ripping of blu-ray discs.. but alledgedly you can also use it to do that...

With programs like TVersity and stuff you can stream video to your ps3 from your computer(or flat out switch out another 2.5" sata hard drive instead of paying 180$ for the only extra internal hdd xbox offers which is only 120 gb.)

The PS3 also supports WAY WAY WAY WAY more video formats and codecs as far as playing downloaded videos on your computer goes. I've only found 1 or 2 formats my PS3 won't play that VLC will(you can put VLC on the linux partition of your ps3 and play virtually every format. PS3 actually plays more different video formats than my PC did when I first got it(windows media player). I had to download vlc before I could access most of them.

The bluetooth technology allows you to connect up to 7 controllers, and not have to buy a specialized headset.

They are also coming out with playtv which is a tv tuner which allows you to use your ps3 as a dvr.

Even if you don't use it as a gaming console the ps3 is well worth the money. There's also more you can do with your ps3 that I probably left off, because of it slipping my mind. It really is an amazing piece of technology in and of itself.

[Kyle]

Anyways this thread is about madden.. I played it..doesn't seem too bad.

[uscbucsfan]

Once you get past all the fan boys you will know that neither system is really that much better than the other...seriously, MGS4 has the best graphics of all the games, 360 has better exclusives(just my opinion, i like shooters)...PS3 has bigger hardrive, puts out in full 1080p, blue tooth, free online, but you pay more for it. 360s live is much better of an online expiriance and has many more american players to play against, but you have to to pay for the service. 360 seems to fair better on the multiplatforms...developers say its because its easy to make games for, but overall the graphics and performance differences are so minor that all the battle between fans of the two is gay....I play my 360, but its my choice. I'm sure there's others who own both and prefer the ps3.

[ATL-owns-TB]

its real easy. ps3 is good for single player, 360 is good for multi, don't complicate it more than that.

[h-town baller]

is this game really worth sixty dollars?

[#1Alstott Fan]

http://sports.ign.com/madden09/buccaneers.html


enjoy guys...but im a little ****ed that sabby's rating is so low

[kickstand]

its real easy. ps3 is good for single player, 360 is good for multi, don't complicate it more than that.

Its not that easy anymore. PS3 is making a big push towards a more multi-player experience eg. see 64 player online Resistance and 256 player MAG.

Regardless, I still think it comes down to whichever of the systems your friends have. Its fun to play online but its nothing compared to playing online against or with a bunch of your friends. The separate systems will always have their exclusives.

I played my 360 a lot until I got the RROD 3 times and was just tired of getting it replaced so I stuck to the PS3 and I like its ceiling better.

Edit: Oh yeah, topic. I'm probably going to get it when I wake up, don't feel like driving over to Wal-Mart.

[Miller4Prez64]

Unfortunatly, I don't have a Ps3 or Xbox 360. Just Wii and PS2. I bought 08 for Wii and hated it, I'm tempted to buy 09 but I can't see it being any better. Does anyone have the Wii version with any info about it so I can make up my mind to buy this or MLB 2k8?

[Kyle]

Once you get past all the fan boys you will know that neither system is really that much better than the other...seriously, MGS4 has the best graphics of all the games, 360 has better exclusives(just my opinion, i like shooters)...PS3 has bigger hardrive, puts out in full 1080p, blue tooth, free online, but you pay more for it. 360s live is much better of an online expiriance and has many more american players to play against, but you have to to pay for the service. 360 seems to fair better on the multiplatforms...developers say its because its easy to make games for, but overall the graphics and performance differences are so minor that all the battle between fans of the two is gay....I play my 360, but its my choice. I'm sure there's others who own both and prefer the ps3.

When you buy 360 wifi it costs 50$ more than the PS3.

[Kyle]

Unfortunatly, I don't have a Ps3 or Xbox 360. Just Wii and PS2. I bought 08 for Wii and hated it, I'm tempted to buy 09 but I can't see it being any better. Does anyone have the Wii version with any info about it so I can make up my mind to buy this or MLB 2k8?

09 for the wii looks terrible. They dumbed it down so much it doesn't even seem playable. There's like a 5 on 5 where score by 1s and it goes by TDs. IT looks incredibly dumb.

[BucFan9720]

For you 360 owners..

Madden 06 was a pathetic excuse for a video game.
Madden 07 was playable, but god awful online lag.
Madden 08 was quite possibly the very worst Madden ever released IMO.

But Madden 09, ladies and gentlemen, is far and away the best next-gen football game to date and I'm a 2k8 fanatic saying so.

It took them 4 years to do it but they FINALLY have a damn good game on the market. This is a totally different game from the others.. I'm lovin it.

[JudgeDredd]

Wii all the way baby.


Yeah, we know it's not on the same level as PS3 and 360 when it comes to graphics, we've accepted that. But honestly guys, once you get your head wrapped around the Wiimote in Madden- you'll never go back to just pushing buttons....

[ImAWalkingCorps]

What about PS2? Those of us with bills cannot afford the 500 dollars for PS3 or to the RROD on the 360.

[Kyle]

I doubt it, just save yourself $10 and buy the PS2 version. Thats my plan anyways.

You save 30 with the ps2 version.


Wii all the way baby.


Yeah, we know it's not on the same level as PS3 and 360 when it comes to graphics, we've accepted that. But honestly guys, once you get your head wrapped around the Wiimote in Madden- you'll never go back to just pushing buttons....

It would be cool, except that this year they tried to go over the top with making it accessible for people with all ages, and from what I understand it's hardly even football anymore. Someone who's played it for wii I hope you can prove me wrong, but I'm not sure this "all play" is good for sports games.

What about PS2? Those of us with bills cannot afford the 500 dollars for PS3 or to the RROD on the 360.

Coming from someone who owns Madden 08 for the Ps3 and ps2. .the ps2 version of Madden 08 was much much better. This year I think they've improved the next gen game to the point of where 09 will be better, but it still should be pretty good on the PS2...I don't know if it's worth it for the roster updates if it doesn't have all the new features though... I'd check on that.

[Jakopo]

Does Madden have an on-line franchise mode where you and your buddies can start a dynasty like NCAA09?


edit -- scratch the question, I see they do.

[kickstand]

Going out to get it right now. Fingers crossed for non-crapiness.

[farland]

PS2 Rosters are rather sad. Bucs QBs are Garcia, McCown and Gradkowski.:confused:

[kickstand]

Yeah PS2 owners of Madden are going to get the short end of the straw until they decide to discontinue the series on the PS2. It's probably as much of a watered down version of it as the Wii is.

[Jakopo]

PS2 Rosters are rather sad. Bucs QBs are Garcia, McCown and Gradkowski.:confused:

This is why I never start a league in Madden until the season actually begins. EA had to "guess" what rosters would be like and in all fairness who could actually guess the Bucs QB situation? Even if you let them do a roster update right now, what 3 QB's should they choose? Maybe next year they can add a patch that says roster size is limited to 53 except for the Bucs who get 11 QB exemptions :)


I'll wait till the final rosters are updated before jumping into Madden...plus I still have the NCAA fix on :)

[farland]

I don't mind getting fewer features but Gradkowski should NOT be on the roster. If so they could have released the PS2 version weeks ago because its clear they haven't worked on it in a long time.

[TampaBayzAllDay]

I'm kind of disappointed, its the same old thing year after year, nothing real different this year.

[K Preem.]

graham is only an 84...hes our 3rd RB(caddy is 85 with dunn)

Graham is a 86 on the PS2. I still haven't figured out who my starter is gonna be yet.

[BucsGravity87]

I'm kind of disappointed, its the same old thing year after year, nothing real different this year.

I refuse to dish out 60 bucks for a roster update and some lame added content. EA is a horrible company...

[BobLoblaw]

Couple of observations.
My first 360 madden. Not bad, looks great. I still feel that the gameplay in ps2 was a bit smoother. Maybe its just a prejudice. I like it though.
The iq thing kills me, can pass defend to save my life.
Running is tough so far.
Like i said, it looks great, controls seems fairly nice.
Collinsworth sucks, and thats all i have to say. But at least its not baldinger.

im going to give it a full week before i throw my total judgement in there.

[FSUbuccaneer06]

it sounds good from what i've heard. i'll probably get it, since i didnt get 08 and 07 is insanely outdated

[MillerTime]

Quick challenge for everyone right now.

Look at the Bucs uniform on Madden without puking.

I can't believe there aren't that many Buc fans ****ed off about how bad EA ****ed up our helmets and uniforms. The color is similar to a cardboard box.

The gameplay is better. I just can't get over how bad the Bucs uniforms look.

[FSUbuccaneer06]

Quick challenge for everyone right now.

Look at the Bucs uniform on Madden without puking.

I can't believe there aren't that many Buc fans ****ed off about how bad EA ****ed up our helmets and uniforms. The color is similar to a cardboard box.

The gameplay is better. I just can't get over how bad the Bucs uniforms look.
i havent seen it yet, but heard the graphics are really good. it would surprise me to see they screwed up our uni, because thats usually the one thing they do right every year

[MillerTime]

i havent seen it yet, but heard the graphics are really good. it would surprise me to see they screwed up our uni, because thats usually the one thing they do right every year

The graphics are really good this year but they messed up on the color scheme for the Bucs unis big time. You'll notice it right away.

You're right, they usually do a good job on them. Not this time though.

[uscbucsfan]

JJ is sick...i traded garcia and a 2nd for Calvin johnson JJ is blowing it up

[JudgeDredd]

JJ is sick...i traded garcia and a 2nd for Calvin johnson JJ is blowing it up
Try DexJack as a 3rd WR. Such a great mismatch to have.

[Da Bucs GM]

Well played three games on my friends' madden. It's pretty fun. better than 08, well shoot anything was better than 08. The gameplay was way better IMO.

[kickstand]

Game's pretty fun, can someone teach me how to Rush?

[Da Bucs GM]

rushing was pretty easy to me even tho I like passed way more in my games. Defense is my **** in this game. right now I'm averaging 4 picks a game. 2 sack a game.

[kickstand]

I can rush well enough vs. other people but rushing vs. the CPU on All-Pro even is hard as hell. I haven't even broke 70 yards rushing.

[Da Bucs GM]

Well when I buy the game for myself I will probably see where your coming from.

[Da Bucs GM]

Even playing against a friend I wasn't doing to good with graham I had to put caddy in. speed kills in this madden

[MillerTime]

I can rush well enough vs. other people but rushing vs. the CPU on All-Pro even is hard as hell. I haven't even broke 70 yards rushing.

What team are you using?

[Kyle]

spurlock rips apart defenses,... it's great.

[Kyle]

I am a proud PS3 owner, but I have always prefered the PS2 version of Madden... until now that is. My friend owns an XBox 360 and bought the game for it, and after playing the 360 version, I have become so convinced that it will be a good game that I am going to go out and buy a brand new XBox 360, along with Madden 09 for it. :cool:

Why not just get it for the console you already have?

[BucsGravity87]

I am a proud PS3 owner, but I have always prefered the PS2 version of Madden... until now that is. My friend owns an XBox 360 and bought the game for it, and after playing the 360 version, I have become so convinced that it will be a good game that I am going to go out and buy a brand new XBox 360, along with Madden 09 for it. :cool:

Good move. You won't regret buying a 360, there's a ton of great games out for it to go along with your Madden.

[ThePaperChamp]

The PS3 version runs 60 fps this year, versus 30 fps last year. That is the reason 360 was so much better.

I have a 360 with no intentions of getting a PS3, but I doubt I would buy a console for one game without at least renting it for the one I already own...

I think the game is great so far. Rushing on All-Madden is tough. I guess it will either make me better, or make me tank the Madden Test on purpose. :p I scored perfect on the rushing portion of the test, but I really don't feel it is representative of the game play. If you spin and juke every guy you will fumble when you finally get taken down.

Overall I am pretty happy so far. And, I don't see what is so vomit-inducing about the Bucs uni's. They don't look that far off from 08 to me.

[K-DAWG]

And, I don't see what is so vomit-inducing about the Bucs uni's. They don't look that far off from 08 to me.

Really? i thought they looked terrible. The color of the helmet is wayyyy to light.

And no it isnt my tv, its the game.

[caddy&clayton]

Really? i thought they looked terrible. The color of the helmet is wayyyy to light.

And no it isnt my tv, its the game.

I see what you guys ae talking about, but I honestly don't think it is that bad.

[kickstand]

I still maintain that Rushing is next to impossible at All-Pro and higher. Maybe I'm terrible but I can't do ****.

[MillerTime]

I see what you guys ae talking about, but I honestly don't think it is that bad.

Yeah, it was an exaggeration on my part. But the helmets do look pretty bad in certain lighting. They are tan when you're playing in a dome. I just played a game at RJS at either 1 or 4 and they looked pretty good.

[JudgeDredd]

I updated the rosters just now- WHERE THE HECK IS JJ!?

[uscbucsfan]

JJ is still on my team after the update, hes my starting QB, Galloway got injured doing a wall jump....he missed and hit the wall and then he was out the next series with a sprained ankle....really?!?! thats just absurd

[uscbucsfan]

the key to rushing is the spin move...for some reason highlight stick and stiff arm don't work at all at all-pro and above....I have Mcfadden on the bucs and have 750 yards in 6 games, spin move is really effective

[Run Mike...Run]

is franchise mode any good?

did they tweak the owner mode?

is fantasy draft in the 360 version?

that is all, thank you.

[uscbucsfan]

there is no owner mode...hasn't been for a while, franchise mode is exactally the same as last year, there is a fantasy draft for 360

[Run Mike...Run]

there is no owner mode...hasn't been for a while, franchise mode is exactally the same as last year, there is a fantasy draft for 360


oh well. I guess I will wait and rent it first.

Franchise mode is really all I play. and since the owner mode still has not managed to make it into the Next Gen version I will hold off on buying it.

I like buying new stadiums and upgrading stuff, and pretending to own the team. Makes franchise more exciting.

[uscbucsfan]

same here...I also miss the old pre-season training from last year, I hate the bench press and etc...I liked catching balls from the machine and what not

[caddy&clayton]

After two full days with the game and probably about four hours playing, I have t say that this is a marked improvement over last year. Last year was a marked improvement over 07, so the series is headed in the right direction. Surprisingly, my movie rental store had the game out for rental on opening day, so I had a good oppurtunityto get some experience with the game and make a decision on wether or not to buy it. One problem is that my harddrive broke and I sent it in, so I can't save anything, which means I can't move on in the Madden Moments or play modes like Superstar and Franchise. I'll be spending a week at my brother's soon, where he has the game on 360, so hopefully, when I can save my progress, I will be able to make a decision. As of now I can only say so much, but so far I am impressed.

[TornadoRex]

Quite honestly, I doubt I'll shell out the $60 for the 2010 version. I'll get a pre-owned game around Xmas time, because it really just isn't all that fun. Trying to run the ball is nearly impossible, and it seems the overall look of the game has changed but it's not necessarily an improvement. I like how they addressed the passing issue, it's a lot more fun to pass the ball now and I can actually see the receivers. The instant replay gets fuzzed out half the time, and I just don't feel like I'm getting my money's worth anymore.

[Kyle]

I don't see what you guys are talking about with running the ball being hard. On the madden quiz I maxed out my Running Madden IQ.. All 4 or 5 notches on all madden and I still average 8 yards per carry(with Caddy) or 5 yards per carry(with Graham) and average a QB rating of 40 or so and I'm not even maxed out on passing stats i'm only at the first notch in all madden. I feel running is too easy on this madden(I've never had a rusher average 100 yards per game in Madden before)

[Buccs99]

Here is what i need to know before i get madden today:


Can you create a team and start a franchise with them.

Can you import a legend from NCAA to that franchise and not just the legend mode.




because if i cant import my legend(s) to a created team in franchise, this game will be disappointing.

[kickstand]

I don't see what you guys are talking about with running the ball being hard. On the madden quiz I maxed out my Running Madden IQ.. All 4 or 5 notches on all madden and I still average 8 yards per carry(with Caddy) or 5 yards per carry(with Graham) and average a QB rating of 40 or so and I'm not even maxed out on passing stats i'm only at the first notch in all madden. I feel running is too easy on this madden(I've never had a rusher average 100 yards per game in Madden before)

Can you explain how you do it then for us unable to run cretins? Because it seems impossible for me on All-Pro.

[Jakopo]

I've played three games of Madden so far -- here are my takes:

1.) I like the new intro with "flying" into the stadium from outside. However, I am a bit disappointed that they didn't keep the players running in and highlighting the captains...why would they take this out? Overall the pre-game is kind of a letdown. (I'm glad they got rid of Faulk though, that was pointless).

2.) The adaptive AI and Madden IQ seems like a pretty neat addition. However, I'm not sure how good it is at actually adjusting. I started Running Offense on the first rung of All-Madden. After three games my ground game has been basically shut down. I am averaging 3.1 yards per carry, however, my backs have scored 6 TD's mainly because my WR's keep getting tackled inside the five on passing plays. My Running Offense has increased every single game so I am now at full run on All-Madden. I am using the Browns so I am using Jamal Lewis and running between the tackles seems nearly impossible, he is averaging only 2.7 yards per carry. The only decent gains I have is when I put in a back-up who can get to the corner. My back-up is averaging 5.1 yards per carry.

3.) Interceptions are still way too freaking high on both offense and defense. Madden has to learn the art of the incomplete pass! It seems like if a ball isn't caught it is picked off. I will be something like 22 for 26 with 3 INT's. Same with the opposing QB's. This is probably the most baking part of the game.

4.) Scouting seems stupid. It takes forever. The loading and unloading of a player's details seem like they go with 1970's technology it takes so darn long. Is there a way to have the CPU do this for you?

5.) Graphics and overall gameplay are better. The new end zone stuff is cool (where you run to a spot in the end zone after a TD).

6.) I haven't done any on-line stuff yet so I can't comment on that.

[Jakopo]

the key to rushing is the spin move...for some reason highlight stick and stiff arm don't work at all at all-pro and above....I have Mcfadden on the bucs and have 750 yards in 6 games, spin move is really effective


This gets to my point about the running game. It seems like the game is overdoing the "flashy" type runner at the expense of the power runner. The truck stick and stiff arm don't seem to work as well this year and when power backs get hit in the holes they rarely fall forward like they do in real life. The DL can disengage their blocks too quickly for a power back to be as effective as they have in previous versions -- this doesn't affect you as much if you are bouncing stuff outside with a speedier back.

[MillerTime]

Can you explain how you do it then for us unable to run cretins? Because it seems impossible for me on All-Pro.

Rush from the I-formation and offset I. It's better to run when you have a FB and an extra TE blocking for you. Mix up the running plays by calling some inside runs and then catching the D off guard by running a toss or a fake FB dive HB toss. Establish your passing game and run some draws. You'll have room to run up the middle. When you're in short yardage situations or near the goal-line run using the goal-line formation. The FB dive is very effective from there.

If you're using the Bucs it's probably best to put in Carnell or Bennett because they have the speed to bounce the run outside if the middle is clogged.

[MillerTime]

This gets to my point about the running game. It seems like the game is overdoing the "flashy" type runner at the expense of the power runner. The truck stick and stiff arm don't seem to work as well this year and when power backs get hit in the holes they rarely fall forward like they do in real life. The DL can disengage their blocks too quickly for a power back to be as effective as they have in previous versions -- this doesn't affect you as much if you are bouncing stuff outside with a speedier back.

Exactly.

That's why it's better to use Carnell, Bennett or Dunn in this game.

[MillerTime]

Here is what i need to know before i get madden today:


Can you create a team and start a franchise with them.

Can you import a legend from NCAA to that franchise and not just the legend mode.




because if i cant import my legend(s) to a created team in franchise, this game will be disappointing.

I'm not sure about the first question but I think the only thing you do with your NCAA legend is superstar mode.

[Buccs99]

well, damn, alright.


btw, if people are worried about the fumbles and int's, just adjust the sliders. You can crank up drops and whatnot. Thats what i had to do with ncaa because fumbles were pretty frequent. found a good balance after just tweaking it during one game.

[kickstand]

Alright, I got the running game figured out. I wasn't really setting up my blocks any and just trying to bounce everything to the outside, which really doesn't work in this game. I've also gotten better recognize when the team is going to run blitz so I can audible out of that. I'm pleased that the running game is much tougher and people just can't rip off 40-yard runs at a time now.

[nybucsjg24]

I haven't played madden 09 yet, and I like that its getting more realistic, but I feel they are sacrificing gameplay to make it look better. I liked the gameplay best on the regular xbox with like madden 07. The graphics weren't the best, but the gameplay was so much better then. I don't see why they can't find a balance between the two.

[Kyle]

Can you explain how you do it then for us unable to run cretins? Because it seems impossible for me on All-Pro.

With Graham I use the truck stick like crazy and bounce to the outside on 20-25% of the plays(truck sticking in open field is super effective)

With Caddy I bounce 80% to the outside and use alot of different combinations of trucksticking and juking.

[Kyle]

Can someone explain to me why I can't get Garcia to pass effectively?

[Kyle]

Alright, I got the running game figured out. I wasn't really setting up my blocks any and just trying to bounce everything to the outside, which really doesn't work in this game. I've also gotten better recognize when the team is going to run blitz so I can audible out of that. I'm pleased that the running game is much tougher and people just can't rip off 40-yard runs at a time now.

If that's the truth than don't read my advice to you. What works for one might not always work for the others.

[kickstand]

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but bouncing to the outside rarely works for me. I just wiggle my way through the line now. Sweep and toss plays are completely ineffective. Most of my runs are run out of the singleback.

As for Garcia, the short passing game. Don't go vertical with him. You can hit the intermediate deep routes when they blitz and leave you with man but just try to hit a lot of drags and option routes.

[kickstand]

Don't play zone against good QBs. They'll pick you apart.

[The Donky]

The last NFL2K was better than the last few Maddens, we'll see about this year's. Can't wait till EA loses its exclusive rights to the NFL....if they don't renew it of course.

[uscbucsfan]

if you wanna run zones use coverage audible and press the coverage...makes it much harder for the cpu to pick apart

[uscbucsfan]

JJ or McCown are much better in the game than Garcia IMO, I traded him, Galloway, Dunn, Caddy and got Calvin Johnson(who may be the best WR in the game, try him out youll see) and McFadden....JJ is gonna be rookie of the year 33 passing tds 9 picks and 4 rushing tds

[Da Bucs GM]

Man I got to hurry up and get a job again so I can get my PS3 and 09. Was going to get head coach also but heard some very disappointing reviews about it so I'm not getting it.

[TornadoRex]

Everyone is already trading the entire team? At least go through a season with the regular team...sheesh.

This is why we have idiots in TD that post "TRADE FOR ______" threads 30 times during the offseason.

[uscbucsfan]

why? its madden, I play with our real team online and against friends, Garcia isn't good in the game...so I improved my team, chill

and those people who makes those "trade for" threads aren't doing it because of madden, they just aren't very smart....

[h-town baller]

Yup. I use Josn Johnson when I play online. Gives me another dimension with his scrambling abilities and more bootleg plays.

[Kyle]

As for Garcia, the short passing game. Don't go vertical with him. You can hit the intermediate deep routes when they blitz and leave you with man but just try to hit a lot of drags and option routes.

It's times like this I wish Simms was on the roster. He was always good vertically on Madden. I like to spread the defense so that I can run underneath.. Use pass to set up the run. Garcia doesn't fit well with that.

Lol. I just won a game 2-0. Thank you "No" Gaines Adams.

[JudgeDredd]

JJ is still on my team after the update, hes my starting QB, Galloway got injured doing a wall jump....he missed and hit the wall and then he was out the next series with a sprained ankle....really?!?! thats just absurd
Must be a Wii thing.

[Da Bucs GM]

lol I actually enjoyed madden 07 for the Wii.

[JudgeDredd]

Yeah, 09 is way different.

Can't sort rosters by Speed and Age and **** anymore. Big slip up, IMO, by the creators. Also, no JJ in updated rosters! :(

[ThePaperChamp]

Yup. I use John Johnson when I play online. Gives me another dimension with his scrambling abilities and more bootleg plays.

Who is this John Johnson you speak of?

[Buccs99]

Picked up the game last night and it is just like I thought it would be. Pretty crappy.


EA needs to ****-can the exclusive right nfl and focus on fixing this game.


Graphics: Nice and shiny....bright colors and everything....but not as realistic as they should be.

Gameplay: I hate it. I pick a play and by the time i can shift my line to the strong side, the damn ball is snapped. Why add all these pre-snap adjustments when you have 3-4 seconds to fix them ? rediculous. The running sucks, half the routes are useless (like RB flat routes that end with the back catching the ball out of bounds) and the pass rushing as a defensive lineman is very very bad. Take a page from gameday '98 and make a user specific controller layout for the d-lineman.

Presentation: The intro looks choppy, i have fireworks going off when my players go to kickoff, no player intro's, the graphics going over the stadium arent impressive.

Lots of bugs. The new madden trainer and things are not good. roster changes, create a player, create a team, all that stuff is just ok.

NCAA presentation is loads better than madden and NCAA is just pretty good.




All in all im very disappointed with this game in all aspects. If i gave it a rating, id give it a 6/10.

[Da Bucs GM]

Picked up the game last night and it is just like I thought it would be. Pretty crappy.


EA needs to ****-can the exclusive right nfl and focus on fixing this game.


Graphics: Nice and shiny....bright colors and everything....but not as realistic as they should be.

Gameplay: I hate it. I pick a play and by the time i can shift my line to the strong side, the damn ball is snapped. Why add all these pre-snap adjustments when you have 3-4 seconds to fix them ? rediculous. The running sucks, half the routes are useless (like RB flat routes that end with the back catching the ball out of bounds) and the pass rushing as a defensive lineman is very very bad. Take a page from gameday '98 and make a user specific controller layout for the d-lineman.

Presentation: The intro looks choppy, i have fireworks going off when my players go to kickoff, no player intro's, the graphics going over the stadium arent impressive.

Lots of bugs. The new madden trainer and things are not good. roster changes, create a player, create a team, all that stuff is just ok.

NCAA presentation is loads better than madden and NCAA is just pretty good.




All in all im very disappointed with this game in all aspects. If i gave it a rating, id give it a 6/10.

Then let me have your copy :D

[Buccs99]

Then let me have your copy :D

bought it yesterday, paypal me 50 bucks + shipping and it's yours.

[Kyle]

JJ is still on my team after the update, hes my starting QB, Galloway got injured doing a wall jump....he missed and hit the wall and then he was out the next series with a sprained ankle....really?!?! thats just absurd

I missed this the first time.. are you talking about TD celebration?

[skulldog06]

Yup. I use John Johnson when I play online. Gives me another dimension with his scrambling abilities and more bootleg plays.

I smell cheese.

You were one of those dudes who used to always play online with the Falcons in Madden 07.

I'm on to you.;)

[MillerTime]

I missed this the first time.. are you talking about TD celebration?

I think he's talking about the TD celebration called "what's with these seats". The player goes to jump in the stands but slips and hits the wall then gets up slowly.It's stupid looking.


I've done it about three times with Bennett and he hasn't gotten injured. I don't think you can get injured doing celebrations anyway.

[Kyle]

I think he's talking about the TD celebration called "what's with these seats". The player goes to jump in the stands but slips and hits the wall then gets up slowly.It's stupid looking.


I've done it about three times with Bennett and he hasn't gotten injured. I don't think you can get injured doing celebrations anyway.

On Wii? or is it on all consoles? Every time I've gone to jump in the stands my players have made it.

[uscbucsfan]

Galloway may have gotten injured on the TD catch...but he did the endzone dance and fell and the injury went into effect when i tried to start the next series

[MillerTime]

On Wii? or is it on all consoles? Every time I've gone to jump in the stands my players have made it.

I guess it's on all consoles. I'm using a 360. I've jumped into the stands as well, but I seem to do the "can you believe these seats" more often. It's probably just random between the two.

[MillerTime]

Does anyone else hate the way defensive backs carry the ball in this game? It seems like they're much slower when they have the ball.

[Kyle]

Does anyone else hate the way defensive backs carry the ball in this game? It seems like they're much slower when they have the ball.

Once you break away they get much faster.. this was done to correct the fact that returning a int for a td was too easy in 08. I think it has to do with them being more unsure with their feet how to avoid defenders while carrying the ball in traffic. I agree though super annoying.

I guess it's on all consoles. I'm using a 360. I've jumped into the stands as well, but I seem to do the "can you believe these seats" more often. It's probably just random between the two.

How do you know the names for all of the celebrations? I've played 360 and PS3 and it doesn't have a name for them anywhere that I can find?

[MillerTime]

How do you know the names for all of the celebrations? I've played 360 and PS3 and it doesn't have a name for them anywhere that I can find?

Because some of the celebrations will earn you achievements on the 360 and it has the name of the celebration under "achievment unlocked".

[Kyle]

Because some of the celebrations will earn you achievements on the 360 and it has the name of the celebration under "achievment unlocked".

Oh I see...

Garcia got the wind knocked out of him on a play(QB sneak), but was still fine to do the td celebration.. I think Galloway probably got injured on the play he speaks of.

[kickstand]

Just so you guys know, I figured out how to run the ball. :)

[ballin buc fan1]

Alright here is my summary. I have been playing madden on ps2 so I got an xbox 360 and now I am converting. I like it but just a couple things that really bug me.

Pass defense is terrible. Everytime I play against the pcu the QB is 15/16 3 td's.

Also, I usually play on all madden on ps2 but on xbox I can only play on pro. Maybe it is me just getting use to the new controller and graphics?

And the rushing is pretty hard. It is pretty much impossible to 'user catch' on defense or offense. But this is the most realistic madden i have played so overall thumbs up

[kickstand]

It just takes a while to get used to. The AI on PS2 is so terrible compared to the AI on the PS3.

Pass defense is still a bit tough but you have to mix up your coverages and blitz vs. inexperienced players and mix man/zone/blitz vs. the better CPU QB's. Regardless, the better ones will probably still complete a lot of passes but if they can only keep 5 yard passes then you're succeeding.

[lilmockme8821]

I rest my case....LOL....