You may see this kid at minicamp as a UFA

[Stuck-in-WV]

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=80695&draftyear=2009&genpos=RB

He is from Miramar, FL and since the Fish and Jags are pretty stable at RB. I expect him to try out in Tampa

Note: Ignore the "Off the field issue". He wont be a problem in that regard from what I have seen personally.

[Monty'sCircus]

5'6"??? Everyone loves an underdog, but damn

[Stuck-in-WV]

I'd say 5'7" is closer but hes still a small guy. Just think of Darren Sproles who is 5'6" 180lbs. But I'm sure sproles is faster.

[stuod]

I'd say 5'7" is closer but hes still a small guy. Just think of Darren Sproles who is 5'6" 180lbs. But I'm sure sproles is faster.

it even projects him in the 4.5 range....hmmm not much like sproles at all.

[Stuck-in-WV]

it even projects him in the 4.5 range....hmmm not much like sproles at all.

I'm not suggesting that Seymour is the second coming of darren sproles. Nor do I make any insinuation that he would even make the team. He just happens to attend the same college I do and played like a man among boys here. That should at least allow him the opportunity to try out. in which case I'll be watching with some interest. If he makes the team GREAT! if he doesn't? oh well.

check him out on youtube and see for yourself.

[I'm an 0-26 Survivor]

Note: Ignore the "Off the field issue".

:lol:

[stuod]

I'm not suggesting that Seymour is the second coming of darren sproles. Nor do I make any insinuation that he would even make the team. He just happens to attend the same college I do and played like a man among boys here. That should at least allow him the opportunity to try out. in which case I'll be watching with some interest. If he makes the team GREAT! if he doesn't? oh well.

check him out on youtube and see for yourself.

i wish your boy luck

[NinjaX]

:lol:

NO KIDDING?

Seymour, a second-team All-MAC performer in 2003 and first-team honoree in 2004, was told by Central Michigan athletic officials to pursue his playing career elsewhere after pleading no contest July 18, 2006 to attempted assault with a dangerous weapon in the 2004 fatal beating of DeMarcus Graham...March 30, 2005: Charged with lying to the grand jury, suspended from CMU football team...May 19, 2005: Sentenced to 30 days in jail for contempt of court...Sept. 6, 2005: Charged with second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter, assault with intent to do great bodily harm and perjury...July 2006: CMU athletic officials tell Seymour he should pursue his playing career elsewhere...Aug. 18, 2006: Sentenced to six months in jail and five years probation for attempted assault with a dangerous weapon.

[Stuck-in-WV]

From all accounts I have heard, he was part of a group that beat the kid. Made the mistake of lying to help his "Buddies" and paid a serious price.

The guy has been a class act at Glenville. He will be missed on campus.

[Maverick720]

I'm not suggesting that Seymour is the second coming of darren sproles. Nor do I make any insinuation that he would even make the team. He just happens to attend the same college I do and played like a man among boys here. That should at least allow him the opportunity to try out. in which case I'll be watching with some interest. If he makes the team GREAT! if he doesn't? oh well.

check him out on youtube and see for yourself.

Would he happen to share the same body with you as well?

[Stuck-in-WV]

Would he happen to share the same body with you as well?

uhhh. no. never even been to Miramar.

Stuck-in-WV= 31 year old white guy.

The guy has worked hard to come back from a big mistake and I'm pulling for him. thats all.

[TBBucs007]

uhhh. no. never even been to Miramar.

Stuck-in-WV= 31 year old white guy.

The guy has worked hard to come back from a big mistake and I'm pulling for him. thats all.


orrr.....like 6 big mistakes :p

[Stuck-in-WV]

orrr.....like 6 big mistakes :p

::sigh:: http://http://www.glenville.wvnet.edu/PDFS/phoenix_12_4_08.pdf (http://www.glenville.wvnet.edu/PDFS/phoenix_12_4_08.pdf)

[DeadEagle]

I'd rather we take a flier on Devin Moore in the fifth round.

[Stuck-in-WV]

I'd rather we take a flier on Devin Moore in the fifth round.

Oh C'mon. Are you comparing a barfight where a kid gets beat to death by several people to some wingnut going around shooting cops? Thats not very fair.

[DeadEagle]

Oh C'mon. Are you comparing a barfight where a kid gets beat to death by several people to some wingnut going around shooting cops? Thats not very fair.


It is at this point right here, where you drive your face into a steaming pile of ****.


I had to Google what the hell you were talking about. For everyone else, the "Devin Moore" he's talking about is from Alabama (state, not the school) and shot/killed 3 police officers.

The "Devin Moore" I'm talking about is a RB at the University of Wyoming, and is a decent prospect at RB with the potential to be a good 3rd-down scatback to complement bigger RB's. Similar to what Leon Washington brings to Thomas Jones.


We are talking about the NFL Draft.... how the hell did you make the leap to a convivted killer?

You know what.... just sit down, shut up, and put your homerism in your pocket.

[Stuck-in-WV]

Its my thread buddy. All iv'e been hearing about in here is his criminal issue. I do a quick google on the guy you name dropped and get the wrong result Big deal!

Seymour is not going to get drafted. you know it, I know it, He knows it. I am speculating that he will try out for the Bucs because he is from florida and the dolphins and Jaguars are set at RB. I do not think his criminal past should be a factor for him. He could be a decent player. thats all!

GO FRAG!

[DeadEagle]

Its my thread buddy.

.... and a stupid one at that.


For the board record......

Sept. 6, 2005: Charged with second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter, assault with intent to do great bodily harm and perjury


He doesn't possess any kind of skill we can't find elsewhere without the character issues. And if what this kid isn't considered character issues... I really don't know what is.

[Stuck-in-WV]

::sigh:: http://http://www.glenville.wvnet.edu/PDFS/phoenix_12_4_08.pdf (http://www.glenville.wvnet.edu/PDFS/phoenix_12_4_08.pdf)

I'll accept the talent evaluation. just read his side and tell me he is a character problem

[DeadEagle]

I'll accept the talent evaluation. just read his side and tell me he is a character problem



Sept. 6, 2005: Charged with second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter, assault with intent to do great bodily harm and perjury



.....every Pacman has to start somewhere....


I say again. We can find better players WITHOUT the baggage. You'd be better served helping your son on the Cincinnati Bengals website, Mrs. Seymour.

[Stuck-in-WV]

You'd be better served helping your son on the Cincinnati Bengals website, Mrs. Seymour.

Okay, we're done. go away.

[DeadEagle]

Okay, we're done. go away.


We're done when this thread disappears. You wanted to bring up Jailbait Seymour.... and I'm putting your *** back in it's place.

Note: Ignore the "Off the field issue".

...which happens to be....

Sept. 6, 2005: Charged with second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter, assault with intent to do great bodily harm and perjury



So we're just supposed to ignore a murder, manslaughter, assault and perjury charge because YOU think he's a good kid. It is painfully obvious you attend Glenville State and have been charmed by this convict in some way.

I say we ask Demarcus Graham, because his opinion of Jerry Seymour counts most right now. You post me what Demarcus Graham currently thinks of Jerry Seymour, and if it's positive..... I'll go away forever. Go fetch.

[Stuck-in-WV]

From Court TV of all places.


MOUNT PLEASANT, Mich. — Two former Central Michigan University football teammates of James King testified that they saw King punch a man outside a bar, but didn't see him take part in the brawl that led to his death.

King, 24, and Jerry Seymour are both on trial for second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter and assault to do great bodily harm for their alleged part in the melee outside the Shaboom Pub Club in June 2004.

The fight left 26-year-old Demarcus Graham unconscious and led to his death in a hospital 19 days later.

Former Central Michigan University football player Tony Thompson said Friday that, after leaving the nightclub, he saw King breaking up a fight between Graham and a friend before Graham hit King in the back of the head.

King retaliated by punching Graham, Thompson said.

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"James got mad and hit the kid and Demarcus backpedaled," Thompson said. "James went after him again to hit him, but Demarcus fell backwards."

Thompson, a defensive tackle, said he didn't see King kick or hit Graham again after the punch.

He also said he didn't recall seeing Seymour taking part in the fray.

Brett Erwin, a high school and college friend of King, said he saw King land two punches on Graham, but never saw King kick or hit Graham when he was lying on the street.

Erwin testified that he saw Seymour take part in the beating.

Erwin's testimony Friday, however, directly contradicted his previous testimony before the grand jury.

On that occasion, Erwin said he didn't even see Seymour outside of the nightclub during the brawl, let alone participating in it.
When Seymour's attorney, Doraid Elder, pressed Erwin on his new testimony, Erwin said after thinking "long and hard" about the case, since his grand jury testimony, he believes Seymour took part in the brawl.

Also Friday, Dr. Kanu Virani, chief medical examiner of Saginaw County, said that Graham died as a result of blunt-force trauma to the head. But the doctor indicated he saw no signs that Graham sustained any kicking or stomping to the rest of his body.

Virani also said that Graham not only had a blood alcohol content of .238, he also had heroin in his system.

Testimony in the trial is scheduled to continue Monday morning.

[DeadEagle]

His play is just killer.

[Stuck-in-WV]

His play is just killer.

Tell ya what, I'll keep track of wherever he lands and let you know how far he gets.

He'll either beat the odds and make a team or end up camp fodder. we'll see.

[Monty'sCircus]

woosh

[Stuck-in-WV]

woosh

no, I caught it.

[Stuck-in-WV]

[Hey Eagle,

I read recently that a Browns Scout took a look at him along with some other teams. The kid does have some talent.

I'm not gonna let this one go until he ends up somewhere...even if its Burger King.

http://www.newsadvance.com/lna/sports/sports_blog/article/liberty_report_scouting_glenville_state/8051/

[TBBucs007]

Hey Eagle,

I read recently that a Browns Scout took a look at him along with some other teams. sorry I dont have the link, but the kid does have some talent.

I'm not gonna let this one go until he ends up somewhere...even if its Burger King.

not trying to be mean or anything, but why are you following him so closely? I know he went to college with you, but you are tracking down his every move. Sorry if I am sounding mean, I am just curious why he is so important to you.

[Stuck-in-WV]

not trying to be mean or anything, but why are you following him so closely? I know he went to college with you, but you are tracking down his every move. Sorry if I am sounding mean, I am just curious why he is so important to you.

I want to see the guy do well. I think he has an outside shot of making the NFL. I know the kid (sort of) and he does not come off to me as an arrogant jerk who thinks the world owes him something. His past is a big deal, but I believe it shouldn't be anymore because I have seen nothing to make me believe he is that kind of punk. I wish him well whether he makes it to the show or not.

[Stuck-in-WV]

[Hey Eagle,

I read recently that a Browns Scout took a look at him along with some other teams. The kid does have some talent.

I'm not gonna let this one go until he ends up somewhere...even if its Burger King.

http://www.newsadvance.com/lna/sports/sports_blog/article/liberty_report_scouting_glenville_state/8051/

Bumping for Dead Eagle's sake

[DeadEagle]

When I want a tough RB, I'm not saying I want one that is used to brawling in the state pen. Or can compare training camp grub to the three squares-a-day he got behind bars.


Guys with skill, are justified by GM's. Guys with records and little skill..... don't get shots.


I hope he is far, far away from this team.

[TBBucs007]

wow WV I did not see that you hail from Crestview...I live in Navarre. small world...

[Stuck-in-WV]

When I want a tough RB, I'm not saying I want one that is used to brawling in the state pen. Or can compare training camp grub to the three squares-a-day he got behind bars.


Guys with skill, are justified by GM's. Guys with records and little skill..... don't get shots.


I hope he is far, far away from this team.

I'm telling you, Eagle. He is NOT that kind of kid. Wether he walks on to the Bucs or some other team, he's not thug. He is a quiet, humble kid. Whether that came from his doing time or not, I don't know. But he has been a great player and person at Glenville, and if he makes it, I'll be the first one in line behind his folks to root him on. Sure, he ****ed up. he'd probably be the first one to tell you that. We can't all be model student atheletes like Derrick Brooks. I truly believe in this kid and that he deserves a shot to compete. Would you shoot him down for a no contest plea? Would you turn down Ray Lewis Playing in Tampa on the basis of an accusation?

Trust me, he will be in someones minicamp, and I will be watching.

[DeadEagle]

Why? :confused:

[Stuck-in-WV]

Why? :confused:

Because nothing I have seen in the classes I have had with him or brief conversations I have had with him suggest to me that he is a murderer. It just does not seem to be in his nature.

And any kid playing in the West Virginia Inter Colegiate Athletic League who puts up 3996 yards in 22 games (181yd avg per game) deserves a peek from the next level.

[TBBucs007]

Because nothing I have seen in the classes I have had with him or brief conversations I have had with him suggest to me that he is a murderer. It just does not seem to be in his nature.

And any kid playing in the West Virginia Inter Colegiate Athletic League who puts up 3996 yards in 22 games (181yd avg per game) deserves a peek from the next level.

Well I don't think murderers are just gonna go around acting like murderers and telling people they kill others...Have you met one of these people before?

It's the calm, gentle ones who are the real ones to watch out for ;)

[Stuck-in-WV]

Well I don't think murderers are just gonna go around acting like murderers and telling people they kill others...Have you met one of these people before?

It's the calm, gentle ones who are the real ones to watch out for ;)

I'm sorry, the wrap just doesn't fit the personality of a guy who would beat someone to death. Iv'e met him, it doesn't fit.

[TBBucs007]

I'm sorry, the wrap just doesn't fit the personality of a guy who would beat someone to death. Iv'e met him, it doesn't fit.

Sorry but "He doesn't seem like a murderer" doesn't hold up very well. I appreciate that you support him and root for a local guy and he has amazing numbers...but I would like to see someone tell a judge, he doesn't seem like a murderer he must be innocent! And I'm just saying a criminal doesn't act like a criminal...that would give away their guilt. You just can't base someone's guilt or innocence based on what they act like...you just can't.

But if this guy gets his act together and really shows coaches, GMs, whatever that he is willing to change and put that behind him (which I am assuming he is trying to do) then he deserves a shot, but you can't really run away from murder convictions...it is kind of against the law.

[Stuck-in-WV]

But if this guy gets his act together and really shows coaches, GMs, whatever that he is willing to change and put that behind him (which I am assuming he is trying to do) then he deserves a shot, but you can't really run away from murder convictions...it is kind of against the law.

Thats all I'm saying for this kid. I wasn't there, I don't know for sure what happened, but this is the one thing that is preventing him from being a serious prospect. His plea deal was ambigouous at best. couple that with what I have seen and I just don't think hes some punk-*** thug. If ANY NFL franchise takes a chance on him they will be doing just that, "taking a chance on him" I think he just might have the stuff and I'm rooting for him wherever he goes.

[DeadEagle]

See.... I wouldn't want him going out with the guys to celebrate a big win, have a couple drinks.... then proceed to stomp the goo out of someone's skull.

[Stuck-in-WV]

See.... I wouldn't want him going out with the guys to celebrate a big win, have a couple drinks.... then proceed to stomp the goo out of someone's skull.

me neither. I don't care for players who think their poo doesn't stink. My great big piont is the Jerry Seymour does not fit that persona. I'll sadly eat crow if it does but I gotta go with what I have seen.

[Stuck-in-WV]

Well, he did not get a combine invite. Id say he would be lucky at this point to make the CFL...if its still there.

[Monty'sCircus]

He'll be starring in a new reality TV show that is loosely adapted off of this movie
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/Superman3252/longest_yard.jpg