I've seen some mock drafts that have the Bucs picking...

[jbucs13]

Ciron Black, an OT from LSU. :mad: :confused:


I for one would be ****ed with this pick.

Do we even need an OT. We have way more important problems then OT. First of all we need either a DT or a WR in the first round. Or maybe if a good QB comes all the way to the number 19 spot then pick him, but an ofensive tackle. You got to be kidding me.

[jbucs13]

Bump until I see that I am not the only person ****ed off.

[UMiamiBucFan]

I wouldn't be that ****ed. I'd just think of every time Jeremy Trueblood got ragdolled.

[BucJordan]

I wouldn't be that ****ed. I'd just think of every time Jeremy Trueblood got ragdolled.

QFT. Before this year I would have never imagined it...but Trueblood is simply horrible.

[DeadEagle]

We won't be picking an OL this year. The staff seems pretty content with the personnel they have.

Besides, we have much larger fish to fry.


I'm starting to see mocks with us choosing between Knowshon Moreno and Beanie Wells.

[Stuck-in-WV]

I'm with Eagle on this. OT is a waste at the 1st round for the Bucs. Look for Defensive line or Offensive Skill player.

[BucJordan]

We won't be picking an OL this year. The staff seems pretty content with the personnel they have.

Besides, we have much larger fish to fry.


I'm starting to see mocks with us choosing between Knowshon Moreno and Beanie Wells.

Can't disagree with us having bigger needs, but between his boneheaded penalties and his inability to stop any elite pass rushers we could do a whole lot better at RT.

That said, we still have bigger needs at QB, DT, and WR (especially if Bryant goes to another team). RB I wouldn't mind, but I don't see the need. I think between Graham, Dunn, Caddy (who should be back), and Clifton, we'll have someone who can tote the rock respectably. Wouldn't mind picking up another back with potential in FA though.

[TomatoVSC]

There's some decent FA OTs this season. I'd be disappointed if we didn't make a move for one of them.

[TBBucs007]

There's some decent FA OTs this season. I'd be disappointed if we didn't make a move for one of them.

Prepare to be disappointed...:(

[uscbucsfan]

Can't disagree with us having bigger needs, but between his boneheaded penalties and his inability to stop any elite pass rushers we could do a whole lot better at RT.

That said, we still have bigger needs at QB, DT, and WR (especially if Bryant goes to another team). RB I wouldn't mind, but I don't see the need. I think between Graham, Dunn, Caddy (who should be back), and Clifton, we'll have someone who can tote the rock respectably. Wouldn't mind picking up another back with potential in FA though.

so you are content with our group of table scraps?....i would like to have an elite RB in tampa....but I doubt we get it

[maryjanewatson]

Trueblood has been a disappointment.

Penn is adequate.

Black...at worst, we could stick him at right tackle and immediately improve the run game. The kid has freaky physical skills from what I've heard.

Thrilled? No. There are tackles I like better (keep an eye on the kid from Baylor). And I still want D-Line.

****ed? Not that either.

[BucJordan]

so you are content with our group of table scraps?....i would like to have an elite RB in tampa....but I doubt we get it

Realize I said respectably. It's not that I'm thrilled with our RB's, but I'm not thrilled with many positions on our team. I just believe QB, DT, and WR are far more pressing.

[maryjanewatson]

Realize I said respectably. It's not that I'm thrilled with our RB's, but I'm not thrilled with many positions on our team. I just believe QB, DT, and WR are far more pressing.

They are...but we had bigger needs than running back when we passed on AD.

Need versus Talent...it's the eternal argument. Considering we have some real work to do to get where we want to be, right now we're a "talent" team.

[TornadoRex]

Trueblood has been a disappointment.

Penn is adequate.

Black...at worst, we could stick him at right tackle and immediately improve the run game. The kid has freaky physical skills from what I've heard.

Thrilled? No. There are tackles I like better (keep an eye on the kid from Baylor). And I still want D-Line.

****ed? Not that either.

I think Jason Smith will be a big surprise this draft..

I wouldn't count out the possibility of him jumping into the top half and maybe in front of someone like Oher or Monroe.

And I think Penn is a bit better than adequate, to where we are set at the least at 4 spots on the line.

[TBFreak2002]

There are tackles I like better (keep an eye on the kid from Baylor). And I still want D-Line.


i'm a grad student at baylor and i've been to most of the home games over the last few years. its hard to really gauge the run blocking ability of both baylor tackles as baylor runs a spread. they were definitely good players, i just don't know that either would be an upgrade over trueblood.

[Xandtar]

Link?

I'd like to see who was such an idiot as to predict this pick in public.

[jbucs13]

http://newnfldraft.com/archives/424

There you go

[Monty'sCircus]

Its just a mock, the only one that is worth paying any attention to is Rick Gosselin's.
Nfldraftcoundown.com does a pretty decent jobs on scouting the players...

[Northern Rep]

looking at how that draft breaks down I'd probably go Marks,Iglesias. or Marks,Raji

Might consider Wells also.

[TerryTate]

Why draft someone to replace Trueblood when you have a Zuttah sitting on the bench. Zuttah played LT in college, I can see anyway for him not to be an upgrade over Trueblood.

Who we draft has a lot to do with who get we get in free agency. Its hard to make a prediction with any accuracy at this point. I don't personally speculate on teh draft because I don't watch much college football. I just don't have much knowledge of players that don't go to a local school, like UF or FSU. I was a total Dorsey mark last year, and he had a worse rookie year than Gaines.

[BucFanInKC]

Bump until I see that I am not the only person ****ed off.

YEAH! You tell em!

Let's get ****ed about a mock draft pick that hasn't been made yet that we found on the worldwidenetweb in which the truth is always spoken and if it is on the internet well then it's absolutely true because we all are well aware that if you're wired into the web you are a certain class of citizen with various quirks that require you to share your ideas with other people so they can shoot you down and tell you that you are wrong and you tell them that they are wrong and then it becomes as discussion or a heated debate sometimes will break out and then everyone buys popcorn and eats it as the debate rages on about how Chucky can't coach and Allen can't draft and the Glazer's can't own and how someone can't read and someone else can't comprehend and then someone posts a funny picture and then someone else laughs and someone else thinks they're a butt smooch and someone posts a smilie and then a post comes along with a whole bunch of asterisks and you try to figure out what all of those Shift 8's mean realizing only then that everyone is laughing at you and I hope this isn't considered hazing because I am not really hungry for a samwitch right now but if I do get to eat a samwitch I would request a big fat Philly Cheesesteak one.

[Jack Sparrow]

We won't be picking an OL this year. The staff seems pretty content with the personnel they have.

Besides, we have much larger fish to fry.


I'm starting to see mocks with us choosing between Knowshon Moreno and Beanie Wells.


to me, Knowshon Moreno is the best player in the draft.....i'd take a qb or a dt.....but if that guy is still around at 19..or he makes it pas the top 10...im all for him....what a player he is.

[PhillyBucFan]

YEAH! You tell em!

big fat Philly .

:mad: :grinno:

[BucFanInKC]

:biggrinre :grinno::grinyes::grinno: :biggrinre

[jbucs13]

YEAH! You tell em!

Let's get ****ed about a mock draft pick that hasn't been made yet that we found on the worldwidenetweb in which the truth is always spoken and if it is on the internet well then it's absolutely true because we all are well aware that if you're wired into the web you are a certain class of citizen with various quirks that require you to share your ideas with other people so they can shoot you down and tell you that you are wrong and you tell them that they are wrong and then it becomes as discussion or a heated debate sometimes will break out and then everyone buys popcorn and eats it as the debate rages on about how Chucky can't coach and Allen can't draft and the Glazer's can't own and how someone can't read and someone else can't comprehend and then someone posts a funny picture and then someone else laughs and someone else thinks they're a butt smooch and someone posts a smilie and then a post comes along with a whole bunch of asterisks and you try to figure out what all of those Shift 8's mean realizing only then that everyone is laughing at you and I hope this isn't considered hazing because I am not really hungry for a samwitch right now but if I do get to eat a samwitch I would request a big fat Philly Cheesesteak one.

:rotf: I know your making jokes about my post, but I got to admit it. You made me sound really stupid and it was pretty funny too.

[Nina27Bucs]

Yea but that's just one mock draft... a bad on at that.

The best mock I've seen for us is on walterfootball.com:
1. RB Knowshon Moreno
2. DT Sen'Derrick Marks
3. WR Derrick Williams

I would be very pleased with that :p

[Jack Sparrow]

Yea but that's just one mock draft... a bad on at that.

The best mock I've seen for us is on walterfootball.com:
1. RB Knowshon Moreno
2. DT Sen'Derrick Marks
3. WR Derrick Williams

I would be very pleased with that :p


as i said, the best overall player in the draft.

[jbucs13]

Yea but that's just one mock draft... a bad on at that.

The best mock I've seen for us is on walterfootball.com:
1. RB Knowshon Moreno
2. DT Sen'Derrick Marks
3. WR Derrick Williams

I would be very pleased with that :p

I would be pleased.

[Malev0lent]

You don't waste first round picks on RB's unless they are a once in a decade player like Adrian Peterson. They typically have short NFL careers and are a dime a dozen.

[jbucs13]

You cant always tell if they are once in a decade players though. AP wasnt even the first running back chosen. Not a lot of people would have called him a once in a decade player back then.

[nmw0917]

You don't waste first round picks on RB's unless they are a once in a decade player like Adrian Peterson. They typically have short NFL careers and are a dime a dozen.

did you just call Knowshon Moreno a "dime a dozen"??? :confused: :confused:

[Malev0lent]

Yea, true. Plus they thought he was injury prone didn't they?

I personally would always choose big freakish athletes for O or D line in the first round. They are a long term investment. Unless, like I said a can't miss once in a decade player is sitting there. Like a Calvin Johnson...etc...

Or a great prostyle QB is there to pick, ala Matt Ryan

I wouldn't choose any WR's or RB's until the second round and lower, unless there just isn't anyone better on the board at that time.

[Malev0lent]

did you just call Knowshon Moreno a "dime a dozen"??? :confused: :confused:

Yea, hes not Herschel Walker.

[nmw0917]

Yea, hes not Herschel Walker.

How do you know? The kid has yet to play a single down in the NFL!

[Malev0lent]

I'm talking about what you know of him in college. You don't know what any player is going to do in the NFL. Look at Reggie Bush and what he has done in the NFL.

Look how many running backs did well in the NFL this year and see what round they were drafted in. My point was, I wouldn't waste a first round pick on a RB. RB's in the NFL are a dime a dozen. You need alot of them and you need young ones, because they don't last long. So pick up a couple in later rounds is what I am saying.

[DeadEagle]

I'm talking about what you know of him in college. You don't know what any player is going to do in the NFL. Look at Reggie Bush and what he has done in the NFL.

Look how many running backs did well in the NFL this year and see what round they were drafted in. My point was, I wouldn't waste a first round pick on a RB. RB's in the NFL are a dime a dozen. You need alot of them and you need young ones, because they don't last long. So pick up a couple in later rounds is what I am saying.


Cory Boyd
Ken Darby
Rick Razzano
Casey Kramer
Earnest Graham
Travis Stephens
Jameel Cook
Autry Denson



....the last 10 years of later round guys we've gotten, and I'm sure there's a ton more we signed coming out of IHOP along the way.


We need to start looking for first day RB's if we want to get any better. We cannot let Cadillac Williams injuries deter us from ever picking up a first/second round RB in the draft.

[nensey_zy]

You can look at it two ways.

I get the impression that Trueblood doesn't really fit Gruden's system all that well. He's a big run driver, not a pass protector. That's not to say that he doesn't have a role on this team, but I think we need to take a look and see what Zuttah can offer us playing at right tackle.

That, or look for a pass protecting right tackle in FA or the draft, and make Trueblood that extra tackle in run situations, kind of like what we're using Zuttah for right now.

[Malev0lent]

Cory Boyd
Ken Darby
Rick Razzano
Casey Kramer
Earnest Graham
Travis Stephens
Jameel Cook
Autry Denson



....the last 10 years of later round guys we've gotten, and I'm sure there's a ton more we signed coming out of IHOP along the way.


We need to start looking for first day RB's if we want to get any better. We cannot let Cadillac Williams injuries deter us from ever picking up a first/second round RB in the draft.

I don't have a problem with a second round RB. Just don't think you need to waste a 1st round on one. You can get a very capable RB in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. And all those RB's you listed are people our talent evaluators picked. Has nothing to do with what I am saying, if you can't evaluate talent very well.

Look around the league at 2 rounders or later. Michael Turner, Clinton Portis, Steve Slaton, Matt Forte, Ryan Grant, Brandon Jacobs, Frank Gore, Derrick Ward, Kevin Smith..etc... All second or later RB's.

[BucFanFromATL]

Ciron Black, an OT from LSU. :mad: :confused:


I for one would be ****ed with this pick.

Do we even need an OT. We have way more important problems then OT. First of all we need either a DT or a WR in the first round. Or maybe if a good QB comes all the way to the number 19 spot then pick him, but an ofensive tackle. You got to be kidding me.

I would be disappointed as well... If Daniel "Colt" McCoy declares for the Draft I hope the Bucs draft him... if not I think Gruden should take a chance on taking Tebow and making him a QB... We all know Gruden's offense doesn't require the strongest arm... and Tebow is a strong leader...

But if Wells or Moreno falls to 19... definitely should scoop one of them...

[jbucs13]

I would be disappointed as well... If Daniel "Colt" McCoy declares for the Draft I hope the Bucs draft him... if not I think Gruden should take a chance on taking Tebow and making him a QB... We all know Gruden's offense doesn't require the strongest arm... and Tebow is a strong leader...

But if Wells or Moreno falls to 19... definitely should scoop one of them...

Im pretty sure Colt already sead he was staying another year at Texas

[Cold Buc Fan]

QFT. Before this year I would have never imagined it...but Trueblood is simply horrible.He sucked in college and he's been over hyped since he's been here. slow footwork and no balance which he then further stinks up with by being slow out of the stance.

[BucFanFromATL]

Im pretty sure Colt already sead he was staying another year at Texas

He also said it would be foolish for him not to review his NFL prospect rating... He said if he could go 1st round he may declare...

At this point I think he is going to stay in Texas though...

[TomatoVSC]

You cant always tell if they are once in a decade players though. AP wasnt even the first running back chosen. Not a lot of people would have called him a once in a decade player back then.

PLEASE STOP POSTING.

[DeadEagle]

PLEASE STOP POSTING.


Wouldn't be the first user name he's worn out.

[TornadoRex]

Wouldn't be the first user name he's worn out.

:eek: :confused: :eek:

[TornadoRex]

You cant always tell if they are once in a decade players though. AP wasnt even the first running back chosen. Not a lot of people would have called him a once in a decade player back then.

Which draft were you watching?

[DeadEagle]

:eek: :confused: :eek:


If you were posting in this forum last year, you know who it is.

[jbucs13]

PLEASE STOP POSTING.

Okay Okay. I was confused when I wrote that. I thought it was the year Reggie Bush was drafted but I was confused and way wrong. But I will stop posting anyway.































Yeah right

[jbucs13]

If you were posting in this forum last year, you know who it is.

What are you talking about

[DeadEagle]

You know damn well what I'm talking about.

[jbucs13]

You know damn well what I'm talking about.

Im completely utterly serious. I have no idea what you are talking about! :mad:

[DeadEagle]

Im completely utterly serious. I have no idea what you are talking about! :mad:


USF grad?

[jbucs13]

USF grad?

No. Are you gonna tell me whats goin on

[cras]

Trueblood is an overlooked reason why the offense stinks. Stupid penalties and getting shoved around. I wouldn't draft his replacement in the 1st round but if a guy like Black is there in round 2 i'm fine with it.