View Full Version : Buccaneers mock with trade out of 19 pick
aNyGiVeNsUnDaY7
04-22-2009, 01:34 PM
I think the bucs will move out of the 19th pick, and I think it will be dealt to Arizona for two reasons.
1) Arizona has under 2 million in cap space and needs to draft a RB in 1st round. Cutting Edge will net them 5 million cap space. If they don't cut edge they won't have enough money to sign their rookie class.
2) I expect they will want to jump in front of the eagles pick # 21 for Knowshon Moreno. They could pair his speed with Tim Hightower's size and power.
So bucs trade 19 to arizona for 31, and 63.
31(AZ)- DE Michael Johnson- Georgia Tech
62(AZ) - DE/OLB Cody Brown- Connecticut
81- CB Macho Harris- Virginia Tech
120- S Courtney Green- Rutgers
155- WR Brandon Tate- North Carolina
191- RB Gartrell Johnson- Colorado State
217- DT Terrance Knighton- Temple
229- C Alex Fletcher - Stanford
233- QB Chris Pizzoti- Harvard
feedback appreciated.
robertlasaguila
04-22-2009, 02:50 PM
Idk, I don't think they have to worry about the Eagles, and if the Eagles take a running back it will be Chris Wells. Besides if Moreno goes early they still can choose either Donald Brown or LeSean McCoy.
I also don't like your first 2 picks. We need to go DT with one of them.....
BucLovinTerp
04-22-2009, 03:18 PM
I would rather pick up Alphonso Smith with 31 if he's there because MJ has a better chance of falling, and if MJ isn't there in the second we could pick up a DT like Moala. I don't know much about Cody Brown, but taking two DE's in a row isn't very appealing. I like Macho Harris, but he's better suited for zone coverage, opposed to man and will most likely go in the second. The rest is mediocre at best and if we selected a Center at any point in this draft, I'd sharpen a pencil, then shove it through my ear.
BucsMagicUK
04-22-2009, 03:26 PM
Idk, I don't think they have to worry about the Eagles, and if the Eagles take a running back it will be Chris Wells. Besides if Moreno goes early they still can choose either Donald Brown or LeSean McCoy.
I also don't like your first 2 picks. We need to go DT with one of them.....
What ^ said. The Eagles have many holes, and are not guaranteed to go RB, and even if they do, one could argue that Wells will compliment Westbrook better than Moreno will.
Agent Orange
04-22-2009, 03:29 PM
I've done a lot of research on this. Denver will be picking Moreno imo. The Eagles want a bigger power back imo and from what I've seen the Cardinals want Wells.
aNyGiVeNsUnDaY7
04-22-2009, 04:20 PM
I would rather pick up Alphonso Smith with 31 if he's there because MJ has a better chance of falling, and if MJ isn't there in the second we could pick up a DT like Moala. I don't know much about Cody Brown, but taking two DE's in a row isn't very appealing. I like Macho Harris, but he's better suited for zone coverage, opposed to man and will most likely go in the second. The rest is mediocre at best and if we selected a Center at any point in this draft, I'd sharpen a pencil, then shove it through my ear.
So are you saying, we should just give the backup center job and 3.5 million to mahan for reporting to TC. a late round pick making 1/10th the salary makes more sense financially. We probably should be drafting a backup center late or undrafted FA for at the least a camp body to run the preseason reps.
Taking 2 pass rushers in a row is absolutely appealing for a team with a measly 29 sacks last year. I don't buy into our drafting of a DT. Hovan, Sims, Peterson is up to 315, Dre Moore. I think Moala is gone by mid 2nd round, and the rest of available dt's 3-7 rounds are no better prospects than moore is. I'm much more worried about getting a pass rush from a group of Adams, Wilkerson, White.
aNyGiVeNsUnDaY7
04-22-2009, 04:25 PM
I've done a lot of research on this. Denver will be picking Moreno imo. The Eagles want a bigger power back imo and from what I've seen the Cardinals want Wells.
Maybe so, but I've heard that Moreno is the top back and Wells injury history has scared a few teams away. I think Zona makes more sense with a goal line guy like hightower and an all around back like Moreno. You really think denver is spending a 1st on rb after signing buckhalter, arrington, and lamont jordan all and retaining hillis, torain, and selvin young. I don't see it. they need to fill too many holes on defense
BucLovinTerp
04-22-2009, 05:13 PM
So are you saying, we should just give the backup center job and 3.5 million to mahan for reporting to TC. a late round pick making 1/10th the salary makes more sense financially. We probably should be drafting a backup center late or undrafted FA for at the least a camp body to run the preseason reps.
Taking 2 pass rushers in a row is absolutely appealing for a team with a measly 29 sacks last year. I don't buy into our drafting of a DT. Hovan, Sims, Peterson is up to 315, Dre Moore. I think Moala is gone by mid 2nd round, and the rest of available dt's 3-7 rounds are no better prospects than moore is. I'm much more worried about getting a pass rush from a group of Adams, Wilkerson, White.
Mahan is actually quite valuable to us due to the lack of depth on the o-line. He played admirably for us at Center last year and can fill in at guard too. Center and O-line are our last needs when you go down each position.
I'm not against drafting two DE's in the draft. Now, if we are selecting them back to back in the first two rounds, I'd prefer one of them not to be Cody Brown.
Bucko40
04-22-2009, 06:46 PM
Color me underwhelmed. Johnson is going to have to prove a lot to me in the NFL, rather have a DT. Cody Brown- love this pick. Harris doesn't fit the Bates press cover CB. Everyone else is a gamble or worse.
TBFreak2002
04-22-2009, 07:16 PM
i'd rather look for Coye Francies at the end of the 2nd and then draft Sammy Lee Hill with our pick in the 3rd. maybe a little higher than some (not all) have him projected...but he's really moving up draft boards and i love his potential as a road block in the middle of the defensive line. plus he has deceptive speed for a big man.
SGCadillac
04-22-2009, 08:02 PM
I think the bucs will move out of the 19th pick, and I think it will be dealt to Arizona for two reasons.
1) Arizona has under 2 million in cap space and needs to draft a RB in 1st round. Cutting Edge will net them 5 million cap space. If they don't cut edge they won't have enough money to sign their rookie class.
2) I expect they will want to jump in front of the eagles pick # 21 for Knowshon Moreno. They could pair his speed with Tim Hightower's size and power.
So bucs trade 19 to arizona for 31, and 63.
31(AZ)- DE Michael Johnson- Georgia Tech
62(AZ) - DE/OLB Cody Brown- Connecticut
81- CB Macho Harris- Virginia Tech
120- S Courtney Green- Rutgers
155- WR Brandon Tate- North Carolina
191- RB Gartrell Johnson- Colorado State
217- DT Terrance Knighton- Temple
229- C Alex Fletcher - Stanford
233- QB Chris Pizzoti- Harvard
feedback appreciated.
I know Moreno is quick in an out of his cuts. But i wouldn't say he is "fast". His 4.6 at the combine is evidence of that.
I wouldn't be unhappy with Michael Johnson, but if Aaron Maybin or Everrete Brown slipped to 19, i would prefer them.
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