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01-20-2002, 07:30 PM
Rich McKay says the Bucs will look in all directions in their search for a new head coach - college and pros, previous head coaching experience or none.

Do you have a viable candidate to mention? Try to consider whether this person is a real possibility.

State your case for why your candidate would be the best choice.

TBuccaneerz47
01-20-2002, 07:47 PM
Tony Dungy.. but since the Glazers F'd that up.. ill say Monte Kiffin.

AustinBucBoy
01-20-2002, 07:48 PM
JOHN GRUDEN !!
Go get Chucky! Gruden can bring the offensive mind we need to help turn it around. The defense will be fine as long as Monty stays around to run it and Gruden can come in and focus on the offense. He is also a guy that can get along well with the players and bring a little fire to the sidelines. Go Got him Glazers. Do what you need to do. IF that means a first rounder so be it. Get Gruden and look a free agents for another reciever. That's my call.

BUCS_FOREVER
01-20-2002, 08:06 PM
get chucky he is ready to leave the raiders you watch he will be the next coach for the bucs and then revamp our offense and bring jerry rice and onother high powered rec. to the team and that will be the differnce

Buccaneer Mike
01-20-2002, 08:31 PM
I like the possibility of Jon Gruden. He is a great offensive mind. I think the next option would be Norv Turner. Both guys will help the offense.

Storme69
01-20-2002, 08:58 PM
Gruden would be a great choice or I dont know, how about TONY DUNGY!!!!!!!

sperdakesj
01-20-2002, 09:06 PM
my top choice is tony dungy!!! but its okay he is gonna get to have some fun with the colts and their offense, so i like George seifert or gruden, seifert will bring alot to the offense because he'll declare open competition for the qb job which king will win and he'll sign biakabutuka and he'll try and bring over mushin muhamed........... on the other hand i like gruden because i like his west coast offense, it calls for a mobile qb so king will get the start, and he wont bring in rice you idiots, he'll go out and sign guys that can throw a f#cking block , he knows defense and he'll use dunn like garner, he'll cut stupid alstott and he'll go out and draft a rb thats it,.......... so in conclussion seifert will be good and so will gruden

aturrall
01-20-2002, 09:07 PM
Gruden still has a year on his contract and does anyone think Al Davis will really let him go.

Last year I was suprised nobody expressed real interest in Marvin Lewis. With that said, I think we would be remiss to forget the foundation of our team is the defense and Lewis could ensure the foundation stays strong.

You don't need an offensive minded head coach to ensure a good offense. Look at the Ravens...great offensive mind as the head coach, but that offense stinks.

medleyrelay
01-20-2002, 10:18 PM
The best coach for the Bucs was TONY! But the Glazers have totally messed that whole deal up - and although I personally would love to see them try to get him back I am sure that Tony has realized that the offensive grass is definetly greener in Indy- so now what - well the Raiders lost and Chucky might just be available - there seems to be no love lost between the owners and Gruden - why not go after the coach that just might be able to fire up the Tampa defense every game and do something with the offense like he has in Oakland. Whatever you do Glazers - don't blow it this time!!

True_BucsFan
01-20-2002, 10:34 PM
JOHN GRUDEN,TOTALY THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB,DONT LET HIM GET AWAY GLAZERS,YOU F___ED UP ONCE DONT DO IT AGAIN.

AquaCadet40
01-20-2002, 10:42 PM
First off, we shouldn't even be having this discussion. But since Dungy is gone, we have to move on. My second choice would be Mike Mularkey, the offensive coordinator for the Steelers. He could spice things up for our offense. My third choice would be our former linebacker coach, Lovie Smith. While we search for a stronger offense, we can't forget about the defense.

However I still contend that our problem doesn't lie with our coaching staff, only its choice in a starting quarterback. (yes that same old disagreement) But Shaun King took the Bucs to 10-6, better than Johnson's 9-7!

norkim
01-20-2002, 11:23 PM
If the Glazer's can convincingly crawl to Tony, maybe they can get him back. I don't feel that the problem lied so much with Dungy as it does with the entire offensive staff. However, I'm sure that there is bad blood between Dungy and the Glazer's and Tony will not come back, so, my choice would be John Gruden. Mike Holmgren might even be persuaded to come south.

REB
01-20-2002, 11:35 PM
Tony Dungy should still be the head coach.
What was management thinking?...That the grass was greener on the Parcell side. Do the Bucs feel a bit foolish right now?

failureofafriend
01-20-2002, 11:37 PM
But Shaun King took the Bucs to 10-6, better than Johnson's 9-7!

Brad Johnson took them to 9-6. That last lost was on King.

I'll agree I liked King better though. I say they hire Dennis Green. I think he could bring King along well and hopefully convince Cris Carter to finish his carreer in Tampa. Carter is still one hell of a receiver. Dennis Green has a great track record with the Vikings and since the Bucs will have home field advantage in the playoffs next year, (They'll be in the NFC South with Atlanta, Carolina, and New Orleans. With that schedule there is no way they won't dominate.) they will have a good shot coming down the stretch. I think the additions of Dennis Green and Cris Carter is what Tampa needs.

rabitt
01-20-2002, 11:38 PM
The best choice is dungy...they need to go crawling back before he signs somewhere else

Trav
01-20-2002, 11:44 PM
This is a long shot but Bobby Bowden would be excellent for the job. Although he would probably stay with f.s.u. but some one could pursuade him with alot of money and he will have a huge chance with a championship team. he would help our offense a lot but thats abotu all I can thimk of

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shadow13
01-20-2002, 11:45 PM
My choice would be Marvin Lewis of the Ravens. He personally built the Ravens defense single handedly. We need to keep our focus on the defense, no matter how much all the rest of you long for offense. Defense still wins MOST championships. Maybe we can drag Norv Turner out of the booth in San Diego to become offensive coordinator, here in Tampa. However, Lewis is my choice, he has earned a head coaching position and he has a bit more fire than Tony. I say give him a shot.

jrjones
01-21-2002, 12:10 AM
Is there any possibility of prying Herman Edwards from the Jets? He could come back to Tampa and be the HC, with Monte as DC. We could either try a new OC, or actually bring one back for a second (!) consecutive year to build some consistency. I think it would have been great to let Dungy finish out his contract...NFC South, second year w/ Clyde, healthy Dunn, Simeon and Sapp with chemistry, healthy Brooks...Look at how the Steelers' owner stuck with Cowher through thick and thin, and now they're one win away from the Super Bowl. But, no sense crying over spilt milk...
Herman Edwards or Jon Gruden

big bucs fan/clw-fl
01-21-2002, 01:07 AM
Its a real shame that its come to this,but we have been spoiled by success.Want to wish coach Dungy the best and thanks for the memorys.My choice(and take notes R.Mackay)would be Jimmy Johnson,a proven winner on and off the field........

he_hate_me
01-21-2002, 03:53 AM
Word on chucky!!!Maybe he will go for Az-Hakim as a free agent.Gruden has a shaky foundation to build on so he should demand respect and get the guys to be a team.

BucsFanInLA
01-21-2002, 04:00 AM
Firing coach Dungy was so obviously the wrong solution to the problem but understandable in light of the false promise of hiring in his place a Legend such as Parcells. The Glazers can redeem themselves to the fans and even gain some respect across country by re-hiring this marvelous coach who was able to take the Bucs everywhere but to the Big Game, - which would have come sooner or later. As they look at the perserverence of other teams, notably Bill Cower and what he's done with the Steelers this year, though he is a much inferior coach to Dungy, and look back at the folly of other teams like the post-Wayne Fontes Detroit Lions, they must be realizing at this moment the proportions of their mistake.

Increase Tony's salary; give him a multi-year deal; plead temporary insanity and apologize in earnest; make him feel happy and appreciated in Tampa as he was mucho gusto with the fans, and he might agree to return.

By the way, was any Bucs fan out there unhappy with the way Tony Dungy coached the team? Does anyone remember Ray Perkins or the guy who came after him or Sam Wyche even. It took John Mckay years to get the Buccaneers winning and then they lost Doug Williams! As a lifetime Buccaneers fan I've lived through too much frustration to hold my tongue at this crucial time. I hope the Glazers are hearing this. May God grant them wisdom!

Laura4Bucs
01-21-2002, 07:05 AM
OF course I would say Dungy, he has brought the team so far in a very short time. I think the Glazers need to get on their hands and knees and apologize to him as well as all of the players and fans.

keithew3
01-21-2002, 07:39 AM
I am and have always been a dungy supporter, but where were all you other Dungy fans during the season. All I kept reading about on here was how Dungy needed to go. Or did you all become Dungy fans after Bill Parcells turned the job down?? I hate fair weather fans. It would be an insult to Tony to try and get him back there now, so I don't know who would be a good fit my beloved BUCCANEERS!!

JAyBuc
01-21-2002, 08:35 AM
If I was Tony, I'd say NO WAY!!!!!! Y'all made your bed, now you can lie in it.....I'm going to the Supr Bowl with Payton, Marvin Edgerrin............

buxfan1976
01-21-2002, 08:43 AM
I think the perfect candidate for the job is someone who no one has mentioned. Norv Turner. He is a great offensive cordinator with head coach experience and has worked with Brad Johnson before. I think Norv and Monte could compliment each other very well. Any way that is what I think.

garydunn
01-21-2002, 08:43 AM
John Gruden

Hoblit
01-21-2002, 09:22 AM
Tony Dungy on a very shiny new contract

evansb
01-21-2002, 09:38 AM
Gruden would be a good choice. The only problem with him is that the Bucs have to wait on Al Davis to call the Bucs to see if the Bucs are interested. Who knows with this, contract negotiations are not working out between them.
I saw someone say Green. Not happening. He is under contract and if he has anything to do with the NFL for a year, he will lose 5.4 mil dollars.
Seifert, after what he did to the Panthers,
I don't think so!!!!
Marty, nope, all but signed by the Chargers.
Norv, I think that would be a good choice if Gruden didn't work out. I saw some replys in here concerned about the defense. Bring in Norv and keep Monty to run the defense.In fact in all cases, keep Monty to run the defense no matter who they bring in for a head coach. He's been doing an excellent job!
Dungy, I think if the Glazers asked him, he would tell them to kiss his behind parts!!! Can't blame him!!! The reason and only reason I wanted to see " Sit On a 10 Point Lead Dungy " go is the way he runs the offense. Defense may be a big part in winning games, but if there isn't an offense to score points when needed on a consistant basis, to hang on to the ball, don't go three and out on a consistant basis, and give the defense a chance to rest, WELL, we've all seen the results the past few years. I'm all for bringing Dungy back providing they go out and get a known good O-Coordinator and keep " Sit On a 10 Point Lead Dungy " hands out of the offense.
To go out and recruit a collegiate candidate, that would be a very big unknown!!!

CSWANSON
01-21-2002, 10:40 AM
JOHN GRUDEN - WITHOURT A DOUBT WOULD BE THE BEST ANSWER FOROUR TEAM, ITS PERSONALITY AND DEMEANER. I DO HOWEVER TRUST TOTALLY IN JOHN MCKAY AND WILL BE HAPPY WITH HIS ACQUISITION. SOMEHOW THOUGH, HE HAS TO KEEP THE GLASERS OUT OF THE PICTURE. THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES WE TO GET THE JOB DONE, AND THAT'S ALL THEY NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN, AS IT'S NOW OBVIOUS THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL, NOT TO MENTION ETHICS. AND WHAT ABOUT THIS LYING OF THEIRS? THAT'S NOT OUR STYLE AND IS ABSOLUTELY DISPICABLE! GO GET GRUDEN.

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Capt Rick
01-21-2002, 10:52 AM
Like I said before.. Give Tony the same contract as the big Tuna and the free hand like Bill was going to have. Keep Daddy and sons out of the football operations because we all know they have money and no brains !!and Lie...Can you see Chuckie on the sideline every time the camera is on him !! F" this F"that ?? but who knows Glazers might like that cause they can't compte with a man who'sa Class act... "Come on" if Rich is so much of a Friend to Tony and has the great "Mind" for the Bucs he can get Tony back.. Boy how things change in a day or two...first he will join Tony if Bill comes to we can move on without Tony ... Rich you need five to send to Texas .. Daddy and son's ,B.Johnson,Clyde !! B.Johnson is voting for Norv I guess so after he laid down for the Eagles and Tony's JOB..

BUCSFAN103065
01-21-2002, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by failureofafriend:
Brad Johnson took them to 9-6. That last lost was on King.

I'll agree I liked King better though. I say they hire Dennis Green. I think he could bring King along well and hopefully convince Cris Carter to finish his carreer in Tampa. Carter is still one hell of a receiver. Dennis Green has a great track record with the Vikings and since the Bucs will have home field advantage in the playoffs next year, (They'll be in the NFC South with Atlanta, Carolina, and New Orleans. With that schedule there is no way they won't dominate.) they will have a good shot coming down the stretch. I think the additions of Dennis Green and Cris Carter is what Tampa needs.

We don't need Chris Carter. He is the same type of rec as Key. We need a deep threat. Go get Chucky, let Rich handle the personel and get ready for the NFC South.

msupanik
01-21-2002, 11:37 AM
How about Ray Perkins?....no?....ok, how about Richard Williamson? I thought when they buried that pompus idiot things might actually be normal as far as normal goes in the NFL...nope, not here in tampa bay..wow was it nice for those few years we had....kiss it goodbye bucs fans,as you can see the usual bandwagon jumpers are leaping left and right, the few of us that have stayed loyal will suffer another tenure of the idiots that own the team as we suffered from the last idiot....this one has 2 junior idiots to screw things up, god i hope Dungy is laughing his a@# off but hes not, hes got way too much class for that...the best case scenerio is to promote Monte....with luck, he will bring Lovie home to get a little structure back on our defense...hopefully BIG MOUTH SAPP will keep his promise and quit and go home as he stated early in the year...hmmm ,maybe not,he also promised to break that sack record.....remember that thug? Its ok Warren, we dont mind.....Please go away, Go play with your little thug friends back home.We are sick and tired of you....Monte has fortitude and experience and no doubt will head coach soon anyway plus he has enough sense to learn from a few mistakes weve made on the offensive front...no one wants to keep hes D off the feild more than him...signed, here we go again

Heart_Break_Kidd_2002
01-21-2002, 12:06 PM
Norv Turner offensive coordinator of the Chargers and ex-head coach. He has the experience and can lead us all the way. Sometimes people do stupid things firing Dungy was one of them. It wasn't him at fualt but personnel. We need wide recivers get rid of all of them except KJ and Warrick Needs to go too. (Firing Dungy $0 ,Plane ticket to superbowl$160, Playing the parcels game $?, Getting slapped in the face with a no priceless

rumchaser
01-21-2002, 12:20 PM
The weather and atmosphere aren't quite as good, but maybe we could get June Jones to leave Hawaii for another shot at the NFL. He was always a pretty good coach without the big name assistance, and he turn Hawaii's football team arouind real fast. Did you see them tear apart BYU? My first choice would have tho be Gruden because he has the kind of fire the Bucs need, and he still young enough to kick Key and Sapp in the jaw when they need it.

tampabaybucfan
01-21-2002, 12:56 PM
FORGET DUNGY! FIRING HIM WAS THE RIGHT DECISION.TRUSTING TUNA WAS THE MISTAKE. GET DUNGY BACK AND HE WILL "TRY TO ESTABLISH THE RUNNING GAME", GO 10-6 AND NOT SCORE A TOUCHDOWN IN ANOTHER PLAYOFF GAME.
LETS GO WITH, GRUDEN, TURNER, JOHNSON...JUST THINK, IT COULD BE JOHNSON, JOHNSON & JOHNSON.
WHOEVER WE GET WILL LIGHT A FIRE UNDER OUR CANDY-A** O-LINE AND RECEIVERS.
LET'S ALTERNATE JOHNSON AND KING...AT LEAST THAT WOULD FINALLY FORCE OUR OPPONENTS TO THINK.

Two-Bit
01-21-2002, 01:55 PM
It should be apparent to all that the Glazers have no business in the football business. If they know anything about damage control, they will give McKay free reign to do what is necessary, which looks to be the case. As for a coach, there is nobody available that is any better than Dungy was for the Bucs. So its gonna be hard to excited about whoever they bring in. My choice would be Gruden though. He's young enough and maybe just firey enough to get it done.

THUD AND BLUNDER
01-21-2002, 02:00 PM
Forget Dungy, the man probably has too much class to tell the Glazers where to shove the job even if they did crawl back to him, but that's just what he ought to do.

Spurrier - well we missed out on that one; Dennie Green - no, what's he won that Dungy hasn't; Kiffen - no, leave him with the D; Schottenheimer - never won anything big and Herm Edwards ain't gonna leave the Jets.

Let's get Chucky and at least have some fun!

Suberbly~Buccaneers
01-21-2002, 02:03 PM
I have a few Gruden is apparent, Jimmy Johnson would be nice, Bobby Bowden is a long shot I dont know about his heart maybe we can dust off Mike Dikta, who cares what he did in N.O., he had nothing to work with we have it all in place.

25yearbucsfan
01-21-2002, 02:25 PM
TONY DUNGY!!!!!!!!!!!!

melissakaye
01-21-2002, 03:08 PM
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bogle
01-21-2002, 03:11 PM
We Want Gruden!!

bucs14fan
01-21-2002, 03:29 PM
Jon Gruden!!! He wouldn't put up with his crap that's going on. and to everyone who says get rid of Warren Sapp...why? so he talks, big deal! The man might not be the player he once was, but he's still a great player! Jerry Rice isn't as good as he was before, but that doesn't mean get rid of him! but back to the subject on hand, Gruden would be the best. i'd say either John Gruden, Norv Turner or hey, even Jim Mora!!! hahaha

buc-ger
01-21-2002, 03:34 PM
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere comes CHUCHIEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Bucsin2003
01-21-2002, 04:06 PM
Ironic that earlier this year the Bucs get a fumble recovery called back by a challenge because the refs said that Warner's arm was moving forward. We could all see that Warner was trying to tuck the ball away as he went down and lost it. Now we find out the rule in the playoffs that the call in the Bucs game was correct just as it was against the Raiders and New England. Because of that call now we have a shot at getting Gruden. Good call, bad rule. Change the rule but get Gruden.

The Donky
01-21-2002, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by sperdakesj:
my top choice is tony dungy!!! but its okay he is gonna get to have some fun with the colts and their offense, so i like George seifert or gruden, seifert will bring alot to the offense because he'll declare open competition for the qb job which king will win and he'll sign biakabutuka and he'll try and bring over mushin muhamed........... on the other hand i like gruden because i like his west coast offense, it calls for a mobile qb so king will get the start, and he wont bring in rice you idiots, he'll go out and sign guys that can throw a f#cking block , he knows defense and he'll use dunn like garner, he'll cut stupid alstott and he'll go out and draft a rb thats it,.......... so in conclussion seifert will be good and so will gruden

This guy obviously isn't very smart. We definately won't get Seifert, and if we did, we sure as hell wouldn't sign the worst starting halfback in the NFL Biakabatuka. Besides, Dunn isn't capable of being used like Garner, he can't break a tackle. And the Bucs definately aren't releasing Alstott, he only has the potential to be the best halfback this team has ever seen if given enough touches.

I say we pick up Norv Turner, since picking up Gruden will make us lose draft picks, plus I don't really see Gruden's style of offense working in Tampa.

Peekaboo
01-21-2002, 04:26 PM
I strongly believe that Tony Dungy should be asked to return as Head Coach of the Buccaneers. The Glazers should be embarrassed as to what they did to a wonderful person as Tony. They (the Glazers) felt no remorse for the Buccaneer players, Tony, or the fans who, faithfully stand by the players - all they care about is winning the Super Bowl (is that what we are teaching our kids is win, win, win - if you lose, you're out, out, out??) Seems like people with money always seem to think they have the right to tell other people what to do, what to say, and where to go! Has anyone ever thought about getting new owners for the franchise?? Maybe new owners would realize what they had in Dungy and bring him back where he belongs. Of course, Tony's been hurt, and I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to come back. But maybe if new owners would 'buy out' the franchise, he would change his mind about returning. Tony has done so many good things for the community - will we really be able to find someone else who could accomplish all that he did?? I really don't believe so. I SAY 'GET RID OF THE GLAZERS AND BRING TONY BACK!!!!!' Oh, by the way, we could use a replacement for Brad Johnson - how 'bout KING??!!

chaosman
01-21-2002, 05:07 PM
I really want Gruden to be here next year but if the Bucs can't get him then I guess that Norv Turner wouldn't be a bad choice either.

kochman2002
01-21-2002, 05:57 PM
I would definitely have to say Jon Gruden. He's young, has won the AFC West 2 times in a row, and is a really good team motivator. Norv Turner is definitely not the answer. He has done nothing besides compile a 49-59 record with the 'Skins. Also, remember in 99, the team the Bucs beat in the second round was the Brad Johnson lead Redskins when Norv was coach. Just because he's offensive-minded doesn't mean he is a great coach. Another good candidate would be Mike Mularkey from Pittsburgh. McKay said that they may wait until after the Super Bowl to name a new HC, so Mularkey would definitely be available, and the Steelers couldn't block us from talking to him because it would be a promotion. I mean, look at what he's done for Kordell. He changed the offense to take advantage of the QB's strengths. He took the same Kordell who almost was cut last offseason and made him into a pro-bowl QB. We'll see.

britishbucsfan
01-21-2002, 05:59 PM
I totally agree GRUDEN is our best option now! out of what is left.

Buc Fan from No Town
01-21-2002, 06:02 PM
i never liked dungy as a head coach, he would be a better defence coach. he never helped the offence at all, same as they always were. the offence needs a coach to yell at them so i say john gruden or even marty schottenhimer for head coach. and get rid of that gooney a-- clyde christensen, hes a lost cause, its all about next year, here comes the bucs.

bUc_40
01-21-2002, 06:08 PM
I think Tony should still be the coach but since the glazers are idiots i think we should get denis green.True he wasn't any better than tony but at least he was at the same level, and maybe he could bring Cater over for just one season.Everyones talking about gruden SURE hes the best choice but doen't he still have a JOB in okland?

MsLaura
01-21-2002, 06:14 PM
If we can't get Dungy back, then maybe for a year we should put Kiffin in there with a REALLY fantastic OC. Or Jimmy Johnson, any possibility there??? This should be a very interesting year!

ALASKABUC
01-21-2002, 06:39 PM
GRUDEN!!!!!! Even tho I think he would be a kock sucker to work for I think he would get the job done. Leave Dungy alone. Let him get on with his life and leave those classless phucking Glazers to clean up this mess. Don't start crowing about homefield advantage yet, we still need to find a coach and then we need to win!!!

Shelly7671
01-21-2002, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by sperdakesj:
my top choice is tony dungy!!! but its okay he is gonna get to have some fun with the colts and their offense, so i like George seifert or gruden, seifert will bring alot to the offense because he'll declare open competition for the qb job which king will win and he'll sign biakabutuka and he'll try and bring over mushin muhamed........... on the other hand i like gruden because i like his west coast offense, it calls for a mobile qb so king will get the start, and he wont bring in rice you idiots, he'll go out and sign guys that can throw a f#cking block , he knows defense and he'll use dunn like garner, he'll cut stupid alstott and he'll go out and draft a rb thats it,.......... so in conclussion seifert will be good and so will gruden

I agree with almost everything you've said here, except for Seifert. Dungy, Gruden...excellent choices.

Shelly7671
01-21-2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by failureofafriend:
Brad Johnson took them to 9-6. That last lost was on King.

I'll agree I liked King better though. I say they hire Dennis Green. I think he could bring King along well and hopefully convince Cris Carter to finish his carreer in Tampa. Carter is still one hell of a receiver. Dennis Green has a great track record with the Vikings and since the Bucs will have home field advantage in the playoffs next year, (They'll be in the NFC South with Atlanta, Carolina, and New Orleans. With that schedule there is no way they won't dominate.) they will have a good shot coming down the stretch. I think the additions of Dennis Green and Cris Carter is what Tampa needs.

How can you blame the last lost on King? How many games did he play in this year? You can't expect someone to come in during part of a game and be outstanding after sitting the bench most of the year. He shouldn't have lost his starting position anyway so that last lost is on Brad Johnson.

LDF
01-21-2002, 06:53 PM
I don't know who we WILL get maybe someone who didn't see what the owners did to this teams only winning coach.....treated him with no respect.....and if they hadn't maybe they would sign. All the names you mentioned are smart and respected coaches who might not like getting treated as Dungy did. Who has a lot of respect around the league as a player, coach , and a guy who got canned in a bad way. So the Glazers may have done more harm then good for the Bucs in their obsessed ignorant and obviously unwanted courting of "ME,MYSELF and I Bill Parcells" As my great grandpa said once"....you smelled it you dealt it!"

Shelly7671
01-21-2002, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Capt Rick:
Like I said before.. Give Tony the same contract as the big Tuna and the free hand like Bill was going to have. Keep Daddy and sons out of the football operations because we all know they have money and no brains !!and Lie...Can you see Chuckie on the sideline every time the camera is on him !! F" this F"that ?? but who knows Glazers might like that cause they can't compte with a man who'sa Class act... "Come on" if Rich is so much of a Friend to Tony and has the great "Mind" for the Bucs he can get Tony back.. Boy how things change in a day or two...first he will join Tony if Bill comes to we can move on without Tony ... Rich you need five to send to Texas .. Daddy and son's ,B.Johnson,Clyde !! B.Johnson is voting for Norv I guess so after he laid down for the Eagles and Tony's JOB..

I agree. Mr. McKay, show us what you are made of. Get Dungy back or get Gruden...anything else is unacceptable.

Buck_N_A
01-21-2002, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by keithew3:
I am and have always been a dungy supporter, but where were all you other Dungy fans during the season. All I kept reading about on here was how Dungy needed to go. Or did you all become Dungy fans after Bill Parcells turned the job down?? I hate fair weather fans. It would be an insult to Tony to try and get him back there now, so I don't know who would be a good fit my beloved BUCCANEERS!!
I beg to differ...look at all of my posts and you'll see I supported Tony Dungy. Even when he was told to go with Brad Johnson.*************************************Anywa y to the topic at hand. I think that Jon Gruden, Norv Turner or Marvin Lewis would be a good fit, although I don't think that the Glazers would pick Lewis because of racial issues-just a hunch. As A motivator to Al Davis for Jon Gruden we could trade Sapp to Oakland-they want him there anyway. He's disruptive and bad for team chemistry. He played this year like he wanted to be traded(I said this at the start of the season) and he hasn't shown any signs of changing. I think he knows he's worn out his welcome with the fans. We need a run plugger in the middle anyway this way "Booger" Macfarland can go after the quarterback instead of covering the run and Sapps big @$$.
Norv Turner would be another good fit-because of his offensive mindedness and he brings out the best in Brad"The statue" Johnson AKA "Pad my Stats with dump off passes" Johnson. Only problem is that "Cement Foot" Johnson chokes in the big games. (Go back and look at the games this year when he had time and a deep reciever...he threw more interception that when he was trying to scramble.)
Marvin Lewis would take some time getting to know the position.

Bgalvan
01-21-2002, 09:02 PM
How about Montti Kiffen as our head coach?
He's been able to get the Defense to buy into a scheme which has been effective year in and year out. the last time I looked our former DB coach Herman Edwards did a fairly good job with the jets this season. at this point If we cant get Grudden (who by the way is still under contract) I dont think we could say that Montti isnt as Quallified as anyone else who is available. NOT to mention that prior to becoming our Head Coach, Dungy was also an Assistant Coach in Minnesota. BRING ON MONTTI.

CalhounHomesGroup
01-21-2002, 09:19 PM
Who should the bucs choose as their next head coach? Please...what they should do is excercise some integrity, buc up and bring back Tony Dungy--at twice his previous salary to make up for their idiocy.

The team should have never looked elsewhere to begin with. The lack of judgement they showed in doing so is appalling. However, rather than add to such ridiculous decision making by hiring a has been, a has yet to been, or some other completely unqualified coach to take over where their best option left off, they should simply admit that they screwed up. Then go on the offensive to hire back Tony.

Why would you get rid of the only coach who has ever helped the team to any level of credibility? Tony Dungy is not only a great guy with unwavering integrity and honor (which by the way may be the biggest reason he wouldn't return), but he is a very good coach who the players (seem) to respect and appreciate.

I wish the Vikings would have had a little bit of self control and patience and waited to hire Denny--take a knee--Green's replacement.

CalhounHomesGroup
01-21-2002, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by failureofafriend:
Brad Johnson took them to 9-6. That last lost was on King.

I'll agree I liked King better though. I say they hire Dennis Green. I think he could bring King along well and hopefully convince Cris Carter to finish his carreer in Tampa. Carter is still one hell of a receiver. Dennis Green has a great track record with the Vikings and since the Bucs will have home field advantage in the playoffs next year, (They'll be in the NFC South with Atlanta, Carolina, and New Orleans. With that schedule there is no way they won't dominate.) they will have a good shot coming down the stretch. I think the additions of Dennis Green and Cris Carter is what Tampa needs.

DENNIS-TAKE A KNEE-GREEN...I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU FOLKS TO SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO GET A COACH WHO THINKS THAT: WITH TWO TIMEOUTS LEFT, ON 3RD AND 3, WITH THE MOST PROLIFIC OFFENSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL IN POSSESSION OF THE BALL, AND LICKING THEIR CHOPS WITH OVER 33 SECONDS LEFT, THE BEST THING TO DO IS TAKE A KNEE....DEAR LORD, I WOULDN'T WANT DENNIS GREEN TO COACH A GAME BETWEEN MY GOLD FISH AND MY GUPPIES!! BUT IF YOU WANT HIM...GET YOURSELF LOTS OF HANDKERCHIEFS FOR THE TEARS YOU WILL SHED...AND EVEN MORE ROLAIDS FOR THE PAIN YOU WILL FEEL IN YOUR CHEST...

CalhounHomesGroup
01-21-2002, 09:54 PM
Floyd Calhoun may be the best option. Talented. Great offensive mind and an even more powerful defensive mind. He most likely wouldn't take calls from people with such a low level of integrity, though, so ... maybe the glazers should just coach the team themselves...heck, if they are so smart, why wouldnt they be able to do it

romanianbuccaneer
01-21-2002, 10:03 PM
The answer is in our own backyard.

MONTE KIFFIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With the condition that Clyde Christensen can't remain on the team staff!

#1lynchfan
01-21-2002, 10:44 PM
Norv Turner. We need a coach with an offensive mind. If we fired Dungy because he couldn't win in the postseason, Mora(0-6) or Gruden are not the answer. Maybe talk to Siefert. The man knows how to win.

AlstottLvr
01-22-2002, 01:27 AM
Bring Joe Gibbs out of retirement! Dungy's style, ethics remind me of Joe. Joe was the master of halftime adjustments, his kids should be grown, he can let someone else run his Nascar gig..he's rested, he's ready..he'd fit right in in Tampa...None of these other guys are proven. We need a proven winning coach with a brilliant offensive game plan, and a winning quarterback. And Keyshawn can shut up and start catching touchdowns, too!

tampakey19
01-22-2002, 02:41 AM
heh, how bout joe paterno? wouldn't that be the funniest thing?
and i think we should all be ****ed off at parcells, the guy could have said that he was turning the bucs down a week earlier so we could have avoided firing dungy. that's so dumb.

tstpa169
01-22-2002, 03:19 AM
Doesnt look like we have a whole lot of people to choose from now that are better than Dungy or would make a substantial difference (unless Mike Martz or Steve Spurrier have brothers we dont know about. I agree with comments others have said. who ever takes control at the helm should be Offensively minded and should take more risks, take more chances, and leave the defense entirely to Monte. I wouldnt mind seeing Az Hakim, or someone like Micheal Westbrook as a personnel change to pose a deep threat in the passing game. Also I would like to add that in my opinion Mike Alstott should be the premiere back and should like up behind Jameel Cook more often. I hate to admit it but i think Dunn is fizzling out----IM out!!!!

Numbr1stunner20
01-22-2002, 05:53 AM
OK I'm going to solve all Tampa's Problems right here...

First off they really fu*ked up with firing Coach Dungy.(And no matter where he ends up I wish him the best of luck!!) He took them everywhere but the big game. So here is what you do...You crawl back to Dungy on your hands and knees and beg him to come back ofter him whatever it takes and if he don't except you then crawl over to Oakland and beg Chucky, he is a great coach and I love his westcoast off.

Next as far as Wr. I think they are all good players and they are not the problem as much as the Qb but CHRIS CARTER would be perfect for this team get him Glazers get him!!

Next and probably most important GET RID OF JOHNSON he is no good he threw 3 or 4 Ints against Philly in the wildcard game and one of them was what put the lid on the game when it was returned back the other way for a TD....King would be a great Starting Qb he pretty much lead Tampa 2 a win against Philly in the last game of the season yes they lost but it was by less than a TD Johnson lost by 3 Td's....And did everyone forget about Eric Crouch from Nebraska or Joey Harrington from Oregon or maybe maybe even STEVE CARR from Fresno St. If they can do them 3 things Tampa will be a big SuperBowl contender next season.


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Numbr1stunner20
01-22-2002, 06:06 AM
I have to agree with The Donky, Sperdakes is a moron does he even know what football is?? First Off Alstott is a FB not a HB and they would never cut him...He is a strong powerfully north and south runner..other players hate to tackle him and get gets the job done!!

buxfan1976
01-22-2002, 08:34 AM
You fans that keep bashing the Glazers need to think back to the Culverhouses. Without the Glazers we wouldn't have the new stadium or the big name players. Thier way of doing things may not seem right but they spend the money and get the job done. As far as Tony goes class and being nice doesn't win Superbowls. Offense and defense does. So once again I agree with the Glazers. They have nothing against Tony they just want to win !

AlstottLvr
01-22-2002, 09:31 AM
Again, we need someone who can BUILD a winner, not walk into a winner. Seifert, Martz walked into a winning situation assembled by other coaches. I agree with getting rid of Johnson, but how about a game plan that goes to the endzone every now and then? The screen pass all the way down the field is passe- you won't beat the Rams with dinks and dunks, you gotta be able to go big! When you get to the 20, you can't expect to go to the zone with 3 running plays in a row against those tough defenses out there! Isn't that what Keyshawn was acquired for? Touchdowns, the red zone? I like the Cris Carter idea, but he needs anger management counseling!

Hopalong Henry
01-22-2002, 09:32 AM
GET TONY DUNGY BACK !!! But, if he won't come back, get Jon Gruden for head coach. Get Jay Gruden for offensive coach. His experience has been with the Arena League, but I think he probably could adapt with minimal adjustment. I may be new to the boards, but I've been a Buc fan since I moved here in 1977. I've seen the worst, and I'm not ready to see them again.

CeriousBuc
01-22-2002, 11:31 AM
If I had to choose a perfect candidate for the Buc's open HC job I would have to pick Mr. Gruden...AKA Chuckie.

#1. There's no way I would want Tony to come back to the Franchise. He's a class act, and the owners screwed him. Dungy has done a great job teaching the BUCs to have some self respect, but he was just too conservative when it mattered in most games. Hopefully, Tony has learned some things about himself and in a year or two(depending upon the talent pool with Colts)he'll shine again.
#2. Jon Gruden is in some ways the polar opposite of Dungy. Not to say that he doesn't have any class(look at the way he handled the ND situation in the middle of the season). I believe that he can bring the fire to the uninspired offense and with Monty staying on as the DC I would have to consider the BUC contenders to at least make a return to the NFC championship. Its just giving up the draft picks that might slow down revamping the offense for next season.

On another note. Ye of little faith should remember that Sapp is getting double teamed on almost every down. That means, that Rice, Booger and Jones/White only have to beat one man. Don't blame Sapp...Rice is the only person that took advantage of the situation. Anyone who would trade or release Sapp is an idiot! Oh yeah, will someone out there teach Alstott to block like he runs....sheesh! If we could just get Dunn out of the backfield.

britishbucsfan
01-22-2002, 11:46 AM
I think it was the right time to let Dungy go. I think he took us as far as he could. Even though he did do a good job with the bucs. The offense needs work and he was not getting it done, Gurden i think will sort out the offense if he takes the job. Then hopefully we will make the superbowl finally!

sperdakesj
01-22-2002, 12:09 PM
"hey how you guys doin? i am doing just fine" - dungy
anyways i am seeing a lot of hatred towards my seifert plan,................. why the **** not he has made it to the big show, he came out of retirement so he could have some fun with a losing team, he did the best with the talent around him, dont forget what his offense was like with steve beurline okay it was amazing, i know football better than anyone here because i just dont join the band wagon and talk about how alstott is a monster, but look the browns are interested in aquiring him so lets trade him to them, alstott is a hb okay ......... he played it in college and he played it alot here , dunn would have broke many gains if we had a lorenzo neal or a jon ritchie instead of alstott blocking. seifert is the best for the job because of his leadership, he wont cut half the team either and try to bring in his own personnel, its funny though what has biakabutuka ever dont to be called the worst rb ever? get injured....... well i guess fred taylor is the worst as well, but wait we'd jump at the chance to get him just because we hear of him because we are idiots who live in florida.... anyways seifert will "try" to bring in mushin and biakabutuka because they are huge contributors........ anyways you'll all be like seifert is the best coach in the world when we sign him

sperdakesj
01-22-2002, 12:10 PM
"hey how you guys doin? i am doing just fine" - dungy
anyways i am seeing a lot of hatred towards my seifert plan,................. why the **** not he has made it to the big show, he came out of retirement so he could have some fun with a losing team, he did the best with the talent around him, dont forget what his offense was like with steve beurline okay it was amazing, i know football better than anyone here because i just dont join the band wagon and talk about how alstott is a monster, but look the browns are interested in aquiring him so lets trade him to them, alstott is a hb okay ......... he played it in college and he played it alot here , dunn would have broke many gains if we had a lorenzo neal or a jon ritchie instead of alstott blocking. seifert is the best for the job because of his leadership, he wont cut half the team either and try to bring in his own personnel, its funny though what has biakabutuka ever dont to be called the worst rb ever? get injured....... well i guess fred taylor is the worst as well, but wait we'd jump at the chance to get him just because we hear of him because we are idiots who live in florida.... anyways seifert will "try" to bring in mushin and biakabutuka because they are huge contributors........ anyways you'll all be like seifert is the best coach in the world when we sign him

britishbucsfan
01-22-2002, 12:34 PM
I will be not bothered if we do not get Gurden, as it has been shown by so many other buc fans there quite a few good coaches available. As long as they get the best person for he job. Because it would be great to get beyond the wild card weekend. Also someone who can sort out the offense problem I suppose it could be called.

britishbucsfan
01-22-2002, 12:39 PM
I just read what buxfan1976 said, I know its a bit backwards but hey. I totally agree with what they said about Dungy.

britishbucsfan
01-22-2002, 01:24 PM
Hey buxfan1976, I was not calling what you said was backwards, I was calling my self backwards for posting then reading.

C.Henz
01-22-2002, 01:44 PM
Monte diserves the chance but he isn't probably going to be around long. So offer it to him! He says no then keep him as DC and go get Marvin Lewis he is ready and Monte can help him! We still have a great defense or did everyone forget about the game in St.Louis? We still build an offense but dump the high price slugs. Draft into it which is still 2 years away with a great draft, twice, and a new head coach. It is time to move on! New HC new OC means at least two years to be a contender. To me that is still 2 years longer I have to wait for the TROPHY!! Let us all just move forward!!! http://64.159.85.249/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif

bucs fan since 76
01-22-2002, 01:46 PM
I would rather that Dungy were still coach but..... since that is not an option and Gruden is unlikely to leave Oakland just yet, how about Dennis Green! As much as I hate the Vikings, he had a heck of a record there before Randy Moss self - destructed. He knows the Bucs and he would be competing in a division that matches Tampa with Atlanta, New Orleans and Carolina! Surely he could win in that situation with the BUCS.

C.Henz
01-22-2002, 01:57 PM
What about Jeff Fisher? http://64.159.85.249/ubb/noncgi/confused.gif

WIZARDS_23
01-22-2002, 01:58 PM
Bucs need a coach that knows how to contained these overated players and show them how to walk the walk,not just barking all the time.I think Levy is a perfect canditate.Even though he never win the big ones,but at least he took his team to the promise land (super bowl 3x).Yup hes old!but thats what you need,a person you know you can respect the experience and quality the he possess because hes been there and knows how to win.

ghaynes
01-22-2002, 02:22 PM
The one that just signed with the Colts ... Good luck Tony.

Numbr1stunner20
01-22-2002, 02:49 PM
Ok, First off I agree with Bucsfansince76...I would like to have gruden coach the team but it is unlikely he will be and very unlikely that Dungy will be back..Even thou I HATE the vikings it would be nice to get Green if either of those coachs wanted to be here next year (But I think they already said something about Green not coming to coach Tampa Bay next year)...And Sperdakes, Please Please Please give up on Seifert, Mushlin, and Biakabutaka coming to Tampa....It might just be a crazy but didn't he lost 15 games in a row lost year and his only win coming against a Vikings team who lost both games to the Lions (2-14) and Carolina (1-15) I mean come on if the panthers played Pittsburgh that first week they would have been the first team to go 0-16 in the reg. season....and Tim Biakabutaka is no good, he wasn't any good before his injury and still isn't and either is Mushlin they all suck and it would be a stupid to even thinking about bring Biakabutaka in to place Dunn...He may not have had a career season but he is still are running back and he is still and will be my choose intil he can no long play in the NFL!

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failureofafriend
01-22-2002, 11:44 PM
I bet Tampa could get a deal on Jamal Anderson if he doesn't resign with the Falcons. They are kinda disappointed after signing him to this big contract and him being injured. It may be worth a risk to see if he is still an elite back. I'd rather them drft Adrian Peterson though. As far as a coach, what about Bob Stoops? I bet he could do a great job. Oh and does Tampa still have Hamilton from Ga Tech? He was a good little quarterback. I haven't seen him since college though. He has some speed but he's kind of short. I'd like to see him get a couple plays in the preseason.

cbaultman
01-22-2002, 11:52 PM
Gruden. Second choice, Norv.

Pewter * Pirate
01-23-2002, 05:11 PM
I liked Tony Dungy alot he is a great coach, he was able to lead the Bucs to multiple winning seasons. But the problem is that the team got to a certain level of success and could not get past that level. I know he will do a fine job in Indianapolis.

The next man to coach the Bucs needs to be one that can take the success that Coach Dungy started and build on that to get the team to the next level.

LifesAir~TB
01-23-2002, 05:40 PM
Well, i think that John Gruden would be pretty awesome as a coach, draft picks will affect us this year but attracting a good offensive coach is gonna take the team forward for years too come. On anther note i don't really feel Shaun King did the greatest job in the world when he started yet then agian neither did brad this year but he did do 1 thing the staff wanted this year and that's raise the completion percentage, as for his total rating, ... well the outcome isn't really his fault. On the field he had 1 really over powering reciever, keyshawn, and then just a lot of mediocer and terrible recievers around him, keyshawn being double covered caused low production. cris carter would be a great pick up and maybe the staff should take a glance at micheal westbrook. The team needs a dou or trio to make good passing game a weapon tampa can yeild. I think warrick dunn's ankle injury has not allowed him to be really productive since, i say let him presue a career elsewhere. Most importantly, though, the team needs a new guard and starting right tackle. The weakness of the line in many of the games this season showed that time in the pocket is little and room for running is short and unreliable. Before we say Brad Johnson isn't earning his salary we need to look at those who are suppose to give the blocks to help him build success. Going back to the Head Coaching position, since the Gruden senerio is probably unlikely I like the possiblity of that coordinator of the steelers getting a chance for the position, he did a great job this year organizing a great offense for K.Steward and i think he has potential as a great head coach, also N.Turner is an obvious chose as head coach and seems as if he'd be likely to get the job done in Tampa. D.Green would also be a great head coach, he's a man that knows football, and the unfortunate situation that occured in minnesota shouldn't have cost the guy his job.

Bucncrazy
01-23-2002, 05:59 PM
If we could not get J. Gruden then we should go after B. Bowden the man is a football god.

LifesAir~TB
01-23-2002, 06:48 PM
Also speaking of Joe Hamilton look at joe's colledge career compared to shaun king

Joe Hamilton's College career :

The most decorated college signal-caller in the NCAA in 1999… Finished second to Wisconsin’s Ron Dayne in the Heisman Trophy balloting… Four-year starter… Guided the Yellow Jackets to three consecutive bowl berths for the first time since the 1970-72 seasons… Holds school and Atlantic Coast Conference career records with 10,640 yards in total offense, 83 TDs, 65 TD passes and a 148.2 passer efficiency rating… Became the first player in NCAA Division I-A history to top 10,000 total yards with 1,500 rushing yards… Started all
12 games as a senior, including the Gator Bowl… Winner of the Davey O’Brien National Quarterback Award, the first Georgia Tech player to win a national award… Earned first-team All America honors from the Associated Press, Football Writers Association of America, American Football Coaches Association, Walter Camp and Football News… ACC Player of the Year… Finished with the sixth-best single-season rating in NCAA history (175.0)… Completed 66.6 percent of his passes… His 29 TD passes shattered the single-season school record and marked the second-best effort in conference history… Threw for 3,060 yards, good for seventh in ACC annals… Also rushed for 734 yards (4.8 yards per carry) and six TDs… Rushing yards were most in NCAA history by a 3,000-yard passer… Recorded finest day of career at top-ranked Florida State, completing 22 of 25 attempts for 387 yards and four TDs… Connected with WR Dez White on an 80-yard strike and also ran for a 19-yard score… Completed 19 of 31 passes for 387 yards and three TDs against Maryland… Also added 87 yards on 13 carries with a 41-yard score… Led the Yellow Jackets to an epic 51-48 overtime victory over Georgia, completing 22 of 32 passes for 341 yards and four TDs, while rushing 15 times for 94 yards... First-team All-ACC selection as a junior… Directed the ACC’s highest-scoring offense, which averaged 35.5 points per game, good for 13th in the nation… Conference’s leading passer with an efficiency rating of 141.7, including 146.3 in ACC games… Ranked 25th in the nation in passing efficiency and 29th in total offense… Connected on 14 of 23 pass attempts for 303 yards and three TDs at North Carolina… Hit on 15 of 29 pass attempts for 227 yards and a pair of scores against Boston College, while also running for an 8-yard score… Ran for two TDs (5, 6) against North Carolina State… Connected on 15 of 22 passes for 236 yards against the Wolfpack… Completed 13 of 22 pass attempts for 237 yards and three TDs in win over Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl... Ranked third in the ACC and 17th nationally in passing efficiency during sophomore season… Second in the ACC and 21st in the nation in total offense, averaging 253.8 yards per game… Accounted for 17 TDs (12 passing, five rushing)… Completion percentage of 64.6 was the fifth-best single-season mark in ACC history… Finished season with a string of 115 straight passing attempts without an INT… Completed 21 of 30 attempts for 293 yards and rushed for an 18-yard score against North Carolina… Against Virginia, completed 21 of 26 passes for 337 yards… Named the MVP of the Carquest Bowl, compiling 356 yards of total offense against West Virginia… Completed 19 of 36 passes for 274 yards and a TD… Also had 15 carries for 82 yards and two more scores... Runner-up for the ACC Rookie of the Year Award as a freshman… Captured a league-high four ACC Rookie of the Week awards… Posted the second-best completion percentage in the ACC, hitting on 57.4 percent of passes… Ranked fourth in the league in passing efficiency with a rating of 115.9… Completed 108 of 188 pass attempts for 1,342 yards and seven TDs... Majored in management.

Shuan King in College:

Extremely gifted athlete who turned in one of the finest seasons by a quarterback in NCAA history in 1998. Combines strong and accurate arm with top-shelf speed and scrambling ability. Started 39 of 41 games as a collegian, first taking over Green Wave's reins for six games as a freshman. List of Tulane career records include total offense (9,468 yards), passing yards (8,419), touchdown passes (70), completions (646) and pass attempts (1,163). Connected on 55.5% of his passes as a collegian, including 61.1% in final two seasons. Had a career TD/INT differential of +36 (70/34). Threw at least one touchdown pass in final 19 games of collegiate career. Graduated from Tulane with a bachelor's degree in marketing.

failureofafriend
01-24-2002, 01:48 AM
Yeah so I was right, he was good in college. I'm a big Tech fan. Anyway does Tampa still have him or did they release him? I know he was considered 4th string or something last I checked but since Leaf didn't stay long he may be 3rd. Do you happen to know where he is now? I've been wanting to see him play for a while now.

RazorBuc
01-25-2002, 01:00 AM
That answer is as predictable as the Bucs' offense has been for the last four years — Chucky doll himself, JOHN GRUDEN. Just sign him, baby!

tbbucs5528
01-25-2002, 11:34 AM
Bobby Jackson, the offensive coordinator for the Rams.

Bucem76
01-26-2002, 01:23 AM
I say give Big K the ball! He knowns the ins and the outs of the defensive system, which other then the failure of anyone besides Lynch stepping up in the "other" safety position was solid. The only thing the Buc's need is a offensive coordinator who has the guts to open up on offense! No offense to Lil' C, but I think anyone outside of 7 yr old pee-wee football league knew what the Buc's were going to do before the Buc's did! We need someone to decide who's the back! The obvious choice to me is the A-train. He punishes people, and always seems to be going forward. Give him a gifted blocking back (Moore, maybe?) and turn him loose! By the fourth quarter guys will cry when they see Brad handing off to him AGAIN! Use Warrick on returns, no one else is really that great, and use him as your 2nd receiver. He can catch and run, and if given space beyond the linebackers, he's scary! Keyshawn needs someone to draw a little attention somewhere else, and frankly Keyshawn won't ever be that great field stretcher!

Lee Roy Selmon1979-84
01-26-2002, 08:31 PM
JOHN GRUDEN !!

Lee Roy Selmon1979-84
01-26-2002, 08:32 PM
Jimmy Johnson

Lee Roy Selmon1979-84
01-26-2002, 08:33 PM
Norv Turner

Lee Roy Selmon1979-84
01-26-2002, 08:34 PM
bowden...the younger one

Lee Roy Selmon1979-84
01-26-2002, 08:35 PM
100 thanks

Lee Roy Selmon1979-84
01-26-2002, 08:37 PM
Whatever you have to do!!

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The Donky
01-27-2002, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by sperdakesj:
"hey how you guys doin? i am doing just fine" - dungy
anyways i am seeing a lot of hatred towards my seifert plan,................. why the **** not he has made it to the big show, he came out of retirement so he could have some fun with a losing team, he did the best with the talent around him, dont forget what his offense was like with steve beurline okay it was amazing, i know football better than anyone here because i just dont join the band wagon and talk about how alstott is a monster, but look the browns are interested in aquiring him so lets trade him to them, alstott is a hb okay ......... he played it in college and he played it alot here , dunn would have broke many gains if we had a lorenzo neal or a jon ritchie instead of alstott blocking. seifert is the best for the job because of his leadership, he wont cut half the team either and try to bring in his own personnel, its funny though what has biakabutuka ever dont to be called the worst rb ever? get injured....... well i guess fred taylor is the worst as well, but wait we'd jump at the chance to get him just because we hear of him because we are idiots who live in florida.... anyways seifert will "try" to bring in mushin and biakabutuka because they are huge contributors........ anyways you'll all be like seifert is the best coach in the world when we sign him

ARE YOU A COMPLETE FOOL?
You come in here, talk about Mushin Muhammad and Tim Biakabatuka, you say Seifert is the best coach EVER, and you say you know football better than anybody in here.
Am I the only one that thinks this guy is a complete reject?
Ok I agree Muhammad would be a nice addition, but come on, Biakabatuka fumbles twice as much as Alstott, and thats sayin ALOT. And don't even try to compare Biakabatuka to Fred Taylor, Taylor DOES run for 100 yard games
I agree Seifert is a pretty good coach, but you don't want a guy thats lost 15 straight games to come to your team.

randem
01-27-2002, 10:39 PM
Let me be coach.

I would work for pennies compared to the guys out there right now, and I really want to see the Bucs win, so I'd work hard. :-)

bucs superbowl bound
01-28-2002, 12:11 PM
The thing that I would look for in a head coaching canidate would be previous success at an NFL head coaching compassity. A proven winner with a great track record.(winning percentage) A head coach with a lot of playoff experience and a superbowl win or wins would be great. That shows you that they know how to win and that is inportant. There are coaches that have superbowl experience out there that stepped into a winner, like George Seifert and Barry Switzer that I think would not make good canidates because they dont know how to fix a leak. They only know how to captian the boat. Thats great as long as your boat never needs any fixing. If you have one of them at the helm and spring a leak you will sink! Anyway that leaves other coaches in the mix like Ditka and Marv Lewis and Joe Gibbs. Ditka is a great coach but I think he proved he didn't want to coach anymore in N.O. and I don't think he could handle the press and fan base we have in Tampa as they are a little far out there. Marv and Joe don't have any rings do they? Jimmy Johnson has everything you would want in a coach but seems to just want to make comercials and watch football on TV. He got his dream job and gave it away to Dave Wanstat. Makes you wonder a little does't it? Well coaches with playoff experience are becoming a little thin aren't they? Superbowl winners are becoming real thin. One name cones to mind though that no one has thought about. A coach that has not been available that coached a 10 year dynasty. A dynasty the he himself built and coached to greatness! Not one that was gifted to him! A coach that has a +70 percent win ratio. The math there says you win 13 games a year in your carreer. Can anyone fathem how good you have to be to win 13 game a year every year of your carreer? A coach with many division titles and a superbowl ring. A coach that has more football experience than anyone active out there right now. A coach that has relationships with all of the active players from all the teams in the league and the respect and admiration of everyone in the industry. A coach that left when his team was on top and not a bust ever. A coach that would bring other team intangibles such as outside advertising and reconigation that another canidate could never bring. A coach that has not been available for 21 years and in all probability would never be available to coach again. A coach that left football because the network offered to pay him more than players were making at the time. John Madden is the coach that could take the Buccaneers to a superbowl. He is the coach that would fix the offensive line first. He is the coach that would keep the defense working great. He is the coach that would continue to keep the Bucs a running team and keep Buc ball alive with Mike Alstott and the run offense. He is the coach that would have Brad Johnson going out of the pocket and down field just like the old Kenny Stabler clips. Ya know the snake wasn't that great guys and Madden killed the oppisiton with him and a great o line and great defense. The modern day Bucs are a better team then the Radiers of the 70s and coach Madden would show the world that the tuna is not the greatest coach of his generation just another good coach. Madden was the Real deal make no mistake and he hasn't lost a thing. He is probably better suited now to be a head coach then he was then! Anyway if I am the man walking aroun with "The List" with coaching canidates on it and Maddens name isn't on there I would feel like a fool. Do not confuse youselves that because he is old that he can't be productive. Ever hear of George Forman? Ever hear of Ronald Reagan? Hevyweight champion at 48? Who would have thought that was possible? I know Regan isn't in that great of shape now and to you his name might be a laugher but a lot of people consider him he greatest president of all time and I think he was either the oldest or one of them. If Madded couldn't do it he wouldn't take the job! Keep this in mind. 112-32-7. If that doesn't impress you nothing will!

STLBucfan
01-28-2002, 02:14 PM
I think Lovie Smith would be ideal. He is respected by the defense and must have learned a few things offensively from the Rams. He's part of the Dungy regime- but now brings a fresh outside perspective.... I haven't been paying attention lately to see if his name is still being mentioned, but if we even think of bringing ol'Marty down from the Skins, I think it will push me over the edge. You don't replcace a coach partially for starting each season slowly, with a coach that started 0-5. That's going the wrong way.

angryfan
01-28-2002, 06:54 PM
Personally, I think Norv Turner coupled with Monte Kiffin would be a dynamic pair. Norv Is more known for his offensive mind than defense, and we have Monty! I still want what's behind door number three.

confido75
01-29-2002, 02:40 AM
I say bring in lewis for the head coaching job, Turner could be the offensive coordinator, and leave Kiffin alone and you have a solid coaching staff but what do I know.

keef
01-29-2002, 03:43 PM
My pick is Tony Dungy. Getting a new head coach or continually changing the coaching staff was not the answer. The Buccaneers had a solid staff and defensive players. They answer was going out and getting some offensive lineman, more receivers and support for Mike Alstott and Warrick Dunn. Drafting prominant talent is the goal. The coaching staff did their job over and over and over. Great Job this year and over the past 6 years guys.

However, if they had to get a coach, Jon Gruden would be good, but also I think that he is still considering Norte Dame.

Go get Dennis Green or Marty Shottenheimer... they are looking. Or maybe an even trade, Indy got our coach go get theirs...

bucsrule_NFL
01-29-2002, 04:58 PM
definately Gruden for the first option

mike traviss
01-29-2002, 11:29 PM
how about doug wiiliams? he's done a great job at grambling, plus he loves tampa bay and the bucs. he also has a superbowl ring he won. couldn't find a much better candidate.

MAlstott4Life
01-31-2002, 02:01 AM
I hate to admit it but Dungy wasnt doing the job at Tampa. He got the team as far as he could take them and the team deserves better. Like KJ said they had a coach that treated them like men now they need a coach to treat them like boys. The players are being allowed to be lazy and they arent living up to what their full potential is.

StatChaser275
01-31-2002, 04:13 PM
You guys are way too nostalgic! Ditka, he had plenty to work with in N.O. and he completely messed up the team. I would agree that Gruden is a great YOUNG coach that can identify with a young team... but he is under contract. Norv Turner is good, as an offensive coordinator, head coach was too much for him. Marvin Lewis is our man, defensive minded, he can identify with the players, and he has room to learn, not a slew of old habits like Parcells.

Turnmeintoabucfan
02-01-2002, 04:59 AM
What's the matter, Jimmy Johnson's boat doesn,t fit on the gulf coast?

AllBucDUp
02-01-2002, 10:35 AM
Dungy - Will go to the Superbowl 3 of the next 10 years with the Colts
Siefert - No
Gruden - Frankly, I don't understand why everyone is jumping on his bandwagon. Check records. Da Raiders have faired no better than we have during his tenure.
Parcells - Anyone else notice that he finalized a divorce a week or so ago? Had he signed a fat contract with the Bucs when it was offered, he would have been splitting that with his ex last week...
Spurrier - Already gone anyway. Almost as funny as...
Bobby Bowden - The guy doesn't coach his own team! He's a mouthpiece. Nothing more.
Turner - Perasonally wouldn't mind it. Have no opinion one way or the other.
Terry Bowden - Figured I'd throw in an option that is almost as ridiculous as Bobby...
Monte Kiffin - I love the guy but come'on
Marvin Lewis - Seeing that the Ravens have no offense either, why isn't he their coach now?
Denny Green - Why? Had a better offense than the Rams 2 years ago and still couldn't get to the show. Already has a solid D here,so there are possibilities!
Lovie Smith - The guy brings out the best in his players. Period.

My SURPRISE candidate (drumroll please...)

Tom Jackson. The guy knows football

Buccs99
02-02-2002, 02:03 AM
i like malarky. i dont like norv b/c of the redskins and the downfall of the chagas (berman sayin). Gruden not real possible. i like either lewis or malarky. one name to throw in out of the blue.... DITKA DITKA DITKA.

DABIGBUCFAN
02-02-2002, 08:28 AM
PARCELLS/TURNER

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anIowanBuccaneer
02-02-2002, 01:09 PM
Ok I will admit that we messed up by letting Tony go but let's not live in the PAST. What is done is done and none of US can effect a change. Let's bring in Green since he is not in Minnasota any longer. We know he can bring the offence and let's put the past behind us. Can't we all just get along?

Warren K. Ball
02-03-2002, 11:46 AM
Jimmy Johnson. He was the Bucs 1st choice
years ago and the team had him all but signed- the problem was the new owners would
not commit to keeping the team in Tampa and
Johnson would not leave Florida. While we
dallied, the Miami Dolphins got him. Tongy
Dungy was our 4th choice and we were very lucky that he turned out to be such a fine head coach. I hope the team tries to coax Jimmy Johnson back out of retirement.

bucfever
02-03-2002, 02:06 PM
What were you thinking!!! quote- "Uh, lets fire our current coach, which only gave us the most winning seasons for the past six years, and hope someone else will take the job, hmmm?!?" I hope gruden turns you down glazier family, cause after that F*ck-up, I don't think anyone would want to work for a backwards thinking bunch of morons like you!!! If a good couch comes to your organization, they'll be afraid of doing good for fear of being fired!!! At least dungy got the bucs on a winning streak!!! Guess we'll have to wait another twenty years for another one, Thanks glazier family!! bite me.......

romanianbuccaneer
02-04-2002, 02:28 AM
LSU's Nick Saban. Look at his record. It speaks for itself.

LifesAir~TB
02-04-2002, 01:51 PM
ok... this is go'n out an a limb but wat if we traded brad johnson to a team for a couple of draft picks then used those drafts picks to conjure al davis to hand over Gruden and then sign Drew Bledsole when the man becomes a free agent, i mean drew has expressed that "he's in the nfl to play" and he won't be able to that with tom brady in his way and even though brad brought Qb passing percentage up, the fact is percentage means nothing to the fans and touchdowns are everything, drew kicked *** agianst the steetlers and i think he can kick *** with J.Gruden in Tampa! forget gett'n conservative in the search for a Head coach, the glazers took a gamble fire'n Dungy cause they wanted to bring this franchise to the top, so now they need to carry out wat they finished.

TheBucStopsHere
02-04-2002, 03:15 PM
Well, since this is fantasy name the coach...I like Chucky; I think we ought to go after him fast and furious... but since that seems to be out of the question for McKay, I honestly wouldn't be too opposed to Dennis Green...at least he's a proven winner. I just don't see McKay's emphasis on a D-minded coach, but my humble opinion certainly won't matter...

BucFan113
02-04-2002, 10:05 PM
If the Bucs go after Lewis like it appears, we will be taking two steps backward! Not that Lewis is not deserving a shot somewhere. Just that the fans in Tampa are tired of a defensive minded coach. If anyone got the hint fromthe Super Bowl from Mr. Kraft, I would hope the Glazers did!

Bradshaw: Was it worth the draft picks to get the coach you wanted?

Kraft: Yes, yes it was!!

HELLO?!!!

Do the right thing and get Gruden here at any cost. The fans deserve it!

NorcalBucsCrew
02-05-2002, 07:33 PM
Looks like Gruden is the leading man for the job...He'd be a good replacement in terms of being a 'players coach'. But everyone out there be forewarned: I'm out in Raider country and there are many complaints from season ticket holders about Gruden's 'conservative play calling' on offense. But when you look at our new division, and if we keep D/coach intact, I like the fact that the odds have gone up in Vegas...

rick10507
02-06-2002, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Hot Topic:
Rich McKay says the Bucs will look in all directions in their search for a new head coach - college and pros, previous head coaching experience or none.

Do you have a viable candidate to mention? Try to consider whether this person is a real possibility.

State your case for why your candidate would be the best choice.

While this might sound like a dark horse, read on in total before you react.
The next coach should be Tommy Bowden. He has the Florida background and is at an age where he can establish a Shula like long term era for the Bucs.
Tommy is a proven winner taking a historically dismal program at Tulane to a 12-0 record. (guess who his quarterback at Tulane was?)He is now doing the same thing for Clemson.
I know he doesn't have any NFL experience. BIG DEAL. McKay as G.M. handles the draft, contracts caps, etc. Monty stays as defnsive coordinator, he hires an offensive coordinator (Norv Turner would have been perfect), plus he has his own built in brain trust with Bobby and Terry. Besdides how much NFL experience will a coach in the new NFC South divisio need?? The play-offs are guaranteed.
This choice would have the support of all the Florida fans, even the Gators. Besides, now we would have a built in rivalry with the Redskins--imagine if they meet in the NFC championship game!!!
Appointing Tommy Bowden would give us all someone to cheer for on Sunday afternoons.
Forget Gruden and giving away Sapp and all those draft choices--we will need them as Atlanta emerges in our division under Micheal Vick.Forget those other guys that we don't know or identify with (Lewis, Malarkey, etc, etc, etc)
Let's do something bold !!!
Let's talk it up and start a fan movement to get Tommy Bowden appointed as head coach!!!!

[This message has been edited by rick10507 (edited 02-06-2002).]

CRod
02-07-2002, 11:45 AM
I still think that the Bucs should promote Monty Kifin to head coach.

Buc-a-roo
02-07-2002, 11:51 AM
Don Strock, I am telling you, Don Strock.

Look him up Rich, talk to the guy, you will be impressed. Great offensive mind, Arena League experience is a plus for explosive offense.

Don Strock!

NorthernBucFan
02-07-2002, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Hot Topic:
Rich McKay says the Bucs will look in all directions in their search for a new head coach - college and pros, previous head coaching experience or none.

Do you have a viable candidate to mention? Try to consider whether this person is a real possibility.

State your case for why your candidate would be the best choice.

It's pretty clear that Gruden is not going to be head coach. Nor would it be a smart move given the amount of talent/cash/draft picks the Bucs would have to give up. Just because Marvin Lewis is a defensive coordinator doesn't mean it's a step back if he hires a progressive Off. Coordinator. Billick was supposedly an offensive genius. Did the Ravens win with offense??

And don't be so quick to pigeon hole Marvin Lewis as a Dungy clone. If his defense is an attacking style, who's to say that once he gets to run both sides of the ball, that he doesn't opt for an aggressive offense.

Give the keys to Marvin Lewis
Get Tony Gonzalez as a free agent
Draft Toniu Fonoti from Nebraska and then Jabar Gaffney.
I don't ask too much do I???

Cale78
02-07-2002, 11:21 PM
Jay Gruden is the man for the job. Then get his older brother Jon Gruden when he finishes his obligation to the Raider oprganization. Jay could add him next season as a Assistant Head Coach. This would blow everyone away and not cost our Bucs any drafts picks or money, etc. Go Bucs!

PAbucfan4evr
02-07-2002, 11:30 PM
There could be one darkhorse out there that I haven't heard anything about and that's the head coach from Oregon. The Ducks this year really lit the scoreboard up. Everyone wants Lewis and while he's a great Defense coordinator that's not what we need. Chuckie would be great but I dred flying into Tampa to see Big 99 in a different jersey. This guy might not be the best but he'd be able to run an offense better than SHULA, STECKLE, or CLYDE F'IN CHRISTENSEN

#88HARRISON
02-08-2002, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Hot Topic:
Rich McKay says the Bucs will look in all directions in their search for a new head coach - college and pros, previous head coaching experience or none.

Do you have a viable candidate to mention? Try to consider whether this person is a real possibility.

State your case for why your candidate would be the best choice.BILL PARCELLS CAN BRING THE TOUGHNESS < BUT AJILITY AT THE SAME TIME TO THE BUCS OFFENSE!



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TimBucs2
02-08-2002, 01:04 PM
UI say hire Monte Kiffin for a year then snag Gruden once his contract dries up!
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bodygenius
02-08-2002, 03:58 PM
as much as i hate to say it John Cooper would be a good NFL head coach.The bux had some good offensive teams in the NCAA.keep him for a year as head coach see if it pans out if not get gruden and keep "coop"in for another role

RamsBucs
02-08-2002, 04:51 PM
My vote is for Norv Turner. He would install a great offensive system in Tampa...

Cale78
02-08-2002, 05:05 PM
I am glad that we didn't get Marvin Lewis another defensive minded coach. In my opinion there is no hurry in naming a coach right now. Just wait out Mr. Al Davis and see his demands come down for his permission to hire Jon Gruden. The Draft is in April and the closer we get to that the value of getting something for Jon will go down. If not certainly after the draft this year it would be nice to make him sweat and be in control of this situation and come smelling good and looking wise. If the selection of Jon looks bleak then focus hiring little brother Jay Gruden of the Orlando Preds. Go Bucs!

Cale78
02-08-2002, 05:38 PM
In my opinion the Glazier's are the best thing that happened to the Tampa community. We have been the brunt of jokes for a long time and now we have owners that want to win as much as the fans do. They were right in rejecting Rich McKay's recommendation of Marvin Lewis another great defensive minded coach. It is not the direction that our team needs are an Offensive minded coach with experience and not Mike Mularkey either. The Glazier's are wise to to wait out Mr. Al Davis and persue Jon Gruden and this looks bleak and not possible then focus on getting little brother Jay Gruden of the Orlando Preds. Then next year they could add Jon To the staff. Jay is a proven winner in Tampa and Orlando. Also, you could name him the intrim and name Jon the Head Coach next year and keep Jay as an Assistant Head Coach. There is no need to have a coach before June of this year. Also, by waiting Bill Parcels could change his mind after his divorce is finalized. Forget the media and their needs and don't cave in the fans deserve the best coach available and that is Jon, Jay or Bill Parcels or even Frank Beamer or someone like him from the college ranks. The one cancer we have left is Rich McKay and I can't wait until he steps down or is fired! Good ridance!

StaffG8r
02-08-2002, 07:05 PM
1--Bill Cower

2--John Gruden

3--Gary Kubiak (Denvers OC & QB coach)

Ravenlunatic
02-08-2002, 07:08 PM
What a pathetic bunch the Glazers are!!! I thought Robert Irsay and Bill Bidwell were losers, but the Glazers take the prize. The way they have completely screwed up your coaching situation is ridiculous. They can't even agree on a head coach, but they are already hiring assistant coaches. What's up with that??? What they have done to Tony Dungy and Marvin Lewis is bush league. The Glazers belong in the XFL. Make no mistake about it Malcom Glazer, we in Baltimore would rather you be in Tampa Bay ALSO!!!! We now have a Super Bowl trophy and the class of the NFL as an owner instead of your pathetic *** !

TBbuc47
02-08-2002, 09:23 PM
Try again for Gruden!Offer more $$, not more draft picks. and offer maybe something like, Sapp and Keyshawn. Both are just whiners.

cbs338
02-08-2002, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Hot Topic:
Rich McKay says the Bucs will look in all directions in their search for a new head coach - college and pros, previous head coaching experience or none.

Do you have a viable candidate to mention? Try to consider whether this person is a real possibility.

State your case for why your candidate would be the best choice.

hijscott
02-08-2002, 10:02 PM
pay snyder off and sigh STEVE. 5 mil looks cheap now!!! He'll make salary in mdse sales!

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cbs338
02-08-2002, 10:08 PM
How about one of the Glazer brothers? They seem to think they know everything there is to know in the search for a new coach. They are making complete and total fools of the Bucaneer team. I cannot imagine a sane man in his right mind at this point believing a thing that any Glazer would tell them. Anyone signing with them at this point is an absolute fool!

OhLordy
02-09-2002, 12:43 AM
I am certainly not a Glazer fan after the shabby dealings at the end of this season both with the dismissal of Tony Dungy and now this with Marvin Lewis.
They have put Rich McKay in the position where he has lost all accreditability now when dealing with future possible canidates.
But let me ask this question, if next years head coach was just to be a temporary head coach, like so many articles think, till they could get Gurden from Oakland. Have they actually done Marvin Lewis a favor by not hiring for one year?

Footballlover
02-09-2002, 08:27 AM
I think either George seifert or dennis Green they would do great for the bucs because the Bucs allready have a good GM putting players in there now they need a good coach to direct them

donweeks
02-09-2002, 08:45 AM
George O'Leary is the best candidate for the
head coaching job.I first met him when he coached Tim Green at Liverpool High, followed his career from Syracuse U to Georgia Tech, to San Diego and back to Georgia Tech.George has all the qualities
you would want and certainly an asset to the
community.Check out his record.

Hopalong Henry
02-09-2002, 10:23 AM
Now that they have lost focus and have most all potential NFL coaching prospects running away scared, I tend to wonder if the Glazier family have their sights set on a coach from the now defunct XFL ?! I'm still a Bucs fan after 25 years, but am starting to get that old sinking feeling again when the Culverhouse family was in charge. The best thing to do now is to see if Monty will take a one-year contract, and try for Gruden again next year. I still think Jon Gruden for head coach and Jay Gruden for offensive-line coach is the way to go; just put it on hold until next year.

amcg4
02-09-2002, 02:35 PM
I think that it matters not who the coach is; this orgnization has demonstrated over the past few weeks that they are similar to the keystone cops...

Advise for Rich McKay.... Get as far away from those fools as you can.......

ncTBBucFAN
02-09-2002, 04:19 PM
Just a couple of personal observations and a question:
1. As I type, I strongly feel McKay is packing his bags for a trip to Atlanta;
2. Thinking that waiting for next year to get Gruden will be mining fools gold. Bye the end of this season there will be a number of HC vaciancies, almost any of which would be better than TB, considering the management situation.
Question: Maybe I've missed something up here in NC but I can't remember Gruden or his rep. saying he wanted to come to Tampa, only that he wouldn't stay in Oakland. Has he?
As an aside, my other NFL team has sterling mgmt. Redskins. Can't wait for that critical mass to explode.

pcredbuc
02-09-2002, 05:46 PM
it HAS to be GRUDEN....no other choice at this point in the debacle.....2 no.1's and cash is a steal...we can get back both picks for warren sapp from indy, or miami or some other lame defense....

offer dan marino or steve deberg the offensive coord. position...they both would kill to get a ring.....!!!

TimBucs2
02-09-2002, 06:36 PM
Gruden is too expensive, it's not worth giving up Sapp, unless he is goin anyway once his contract dries up. I love the idea of Gruden, but he's not worth that much.

anIowanBuccaneer
02-11-2002, 09:35 AM
MCKAY REPORTEDLY IS one of the top candidates to become G.M. of the Atlanta Falcons, ESPN said. McKay has become disillusioned with the Bucs’ job in the wake of two fiascos: the team’s inability to hire Bill Parcells as head coach and the last-minute change of heart with Baltimore Ravens defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis, who appeared set to take the head coaching job but was not offered it. McKay wanted Lewis for the job, but Bucs executive vice president Joel Glazer vetoed McKay’s choice to succeed the fired Tony Dungy. Thus, McKay has realized that he would have much less control over day-to-day football decisions.
How much more of this bull do we have to put up with. Going 0 and 26 was almost better than being the laughing stock because we are being stupid. Come on guys Bring on Denny Green, keep McKay and we will be Superbowl champs within two years.

beanballed
02-11-2002, 02:57 PM
How about Phil Fulmer at TN? Better than a has been or unproven NFL coach.

beanballed
02-11-2002, 03:00 PM
Gruden ran the same offense that the Bucs did, only he had more than one WR. Things probably won't change unless they get at least one more proven WR in Tampa.

superbowlboundbucs2002
02-11-2002, 03:28 PM
Obviously this is pure speculation...I wonder if the Glazer's ever gave up on Parcells? Maybe their plan is to force Mckay out and get a trade for him and then have what it was that Parcells really wanted here. Nothing would surprise me with these guys! I have NO idea what the thinking is with yanking Lewis around. These guys are really making Tampa look like a joke AGAIN!

superbowlboundbucs2002
02-11-2002, 03:30 PM
Is it me or has Jon been tanning his hands?

Originally posted by melissakaye:
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Lee Roy Selmon1979-84
02-12-2002, 04:05 PM
well about now anyone who will take the job.
I hear my POP WARNER coach is available

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tru2bucs
02-13-2002, 06:31 PM
As my user ID states, I'm true to the Bucs, all the way through the core of me, But not true to the glazers. Through the Glazer years, all they managed to do was rip apart Dungy’s coaching staff, allow key players to be traded away, and fire the best thing to happen to the Bucs! After the NFC title game, all our so-called fans did was complain about the Bucs lack of offense, but that’s who we were. What would have happened if we kept Dilfer, and Shula? The expierience we lost was devastating. They knew Dungy's philosophy and fit into it well, and almost came up with the NFL's biggest prize. There's no telling where we'd be if they'd stayed. Now idiots are screaming about Gruden. Yeah, he's a good coach, but where the heck has he taken the Raiders! NO TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!!!!!!! The Raiders talent Kicked our ***** 2 years ago, 45-0. So he did have the tools. So what makes you think he'll do anything with the "talent" we have here. Any coach who wants control of his own staff would be insane to come here. More than likely, Gruden will talk to the Glazers, get turned off by the idiot twins and decide to stick it out one more year until a real offer pops up. The Glazers will more than likely be forced to sign the best big name college coach or a pro offensive coordinator they can. My top Candidates are:
Texas’ Mack Brown, Tennessee's Phill Fulmer and VT's Frank Beamer on the Col level and Pro Offensive Coordinators from SF, IND, and GB. A Defensive coordinator is "HIGHLY UNLIKELY" because the Glazers must save face.

Buc-a-roo
02-17-2002, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by superbowlboundbucs2002:
Is it me or has Jon been tanning his hands?




LOL

Buc-a-roo
02-17-2002, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by superbowlboundbucs2002:
Is it me or has Jon been tanning his hands?




LOL

Buc-a-roo
02-17-2002, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by superbowlboundbucs2002:
Is it me or has Jon been tanning his hands?



Sorry bout that, some kind of glitch made that post twice. Don't want you to think I'm inane.

bucbaby
02-17-2002, 04:01 PM
Still a big fan of Gruden http://64.159.85.249/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif But I would be VERY happy having Mooch here! http://64.159.85.249/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif

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Buc-a-roo
02-17-2002, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by superbowlboundbucs2002:
Is it me or has Jon been tanning his hands?



Sorry bout that, some kind of glitch made that post twice. Don't want you to think I'm inane. http://64.159.85.249/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif

Elite D-lineman
02-17-2002, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by aturrall:
Gruden still has a year on his contract and does anyone think Al Davis will really let him go.

Last year I was suprised nobody expressed real interest in Marvin Lewis. With that said, I think we would be remiss to forget the foundation of our team is the defense and Lewis could ensure the foundation stays strong.

You don't need an offensive minded head coach to ensure a good offense. Look at the Ravens...great offensive mind as the head coach, but that offense stinks.



These guys don't like each other man. The Raiders winning is the only reason why he is still in Oakland. Davis is so stupid he doesn't realize his vertical offense is outdated and I guess he should re-become the coach if he loves it so much. That would leave Gruden for the Bucs. The only mistake Gruden can't make is to bring in the dinosaur squad like he did in Oakland. He took over a bad team in Oak which is not the case in TB. At first, I reacted like you when I heard this but I realized after thinking about it a while, it makes an awful lot of sense.

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Buc-a-roo
02-17-2002, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by superbowlboundbucs2002:
Is it me or has Jon been tanning his hands?



I just noticed, someone zipped Jon's head onto Dungy's body! nice trick! Outfit is from Dungy's final Press Conference.

randem
02-25-2002, 04:50 PM
Jon Gruden is the perfect coach for the Buccaneers. There's no other coach (available or not) who fits our needs better.

We were lucky as he11 to get him, at any price.

TheChronic
02-13-2007, 11:28 PM
Marty.

UMiamiBucFan
02-13-2007, 11:32 PM
Classic.

Legacy
02-13-2007, 11:39 PM
:rotf: Wow... this thread is old.

I'm going with The Chronic's pick here.

Public Enemy II
02-14-2007, 12:43 AM
:rotf:


Funny stuff!