View Full Version : What will be the surprise development, good or bad, of the Bucs' 2002 season?
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06-14-2002, 04:40 PM
The Buccaneers have made a long list of offseason moves, beginning with a change at head coach. Many of the changes have been designed to revitalize a struggling Tampa Bay offense. If all goes according to plan, the Bucs will spread the ball out to what is now a wide variety of weapons and move up the offensive rankings. Michael Pittman will give the Bucs' a consistent force in the running game, Kerry Jenkins will help solidify the blocking up front, Keenan McCardell will prove to be the perfect complement to Keyshawn Johnson and the Bucs' tight end position will become a larger part of the attack.
Of course, when the Bucs added DE Simeon Rice last March, it was assumed by most that Tampa Bay would have the league's best pass rush. However, the onslaught of sacks didn't start until the second half of the season and never approached the league lead. On the other hand, no one could have predicted that CB Ronde Barber would tie for the league lead with a team-record 10 interceptions.
Obviously, everything doesn't always go according to plan. Do you have any guesses as to which offseason assumption made by either the Bucs or the media covering the team will not come to pass?
bjohnson1468
06-14-2002, 04:57 PM
good
marshmallow12
06-14-2002, 05:07 PM
The obvious choice would be the offense, esp. recievers. I do think they will improve, but the biggest improvement will be at middle linebacker...I know it sounds weird but just here me out. Shelton is getting nothing but praise from coach G. He is fast and smart and is a big playmaker. He played mid when he first got to Tampa Bay, and he has enough experience playing behind brooks and on LOLB. I think he will step up and be one of the top MLBs in the league.
See y'all on Jan 26...:D
hiddendragon
06-14-2002, 06:04 PM
:p u couldn't ave put it better marshmallow12
Robert Fuller
06-14-2002, 06:19 PM
I think if there is a surprise developement it will be that on offense we will be passing a lot more than we will be rushing. We kind of saw this last season as the running game struggled but I think that this year rushing will still be effective but we will have much more efficient passing. On defense I think that there will be an even ratio of sacks to interceptions. Hopefully Sapp will get some of his weight back from his 2000 form and the other linemen will be just as effective like Rice was last year. Barber will still be good but he needs a supporting corner that will make passers think twice- I mean let's face it Brian Kelly sucks.
bocaj205
06-14-2002, 06:25 PM
The biggest surprise may be that the bucs offense with newly added keith poole pittman jurevicious and mccardell added 2 it might be as good or better than the bucs tremendous defense. If that happens there is not much standing in the bucs way 2 win the super bowl. HELL YEA GO BUCS
NZBuccFan
06-14-2002, 08:18 PM
The only possible "bad" surprise I can see possibly happening is our defense not playing up to their standards, I think we are rather thin at the CB position. Other than that evrything looks very positive.
skinny
06-14-2002, 08:25 PM
We will be the best team. No question.
So I hope our ugly surprise isn't some out-of-nowhere wonder like the New England Patriots taking us out of the playoffs. After seeing that stuff last year, you gotta admit: anything can happen.
I mean, except for what I think was a bad call regarding Tom Brady's "non" fumble in the Snow Bowl vs. Oakland, the Raiders might be wearing the rings. Hopefully Chuckie will never let such a thing happen again.
We have to run up the score every game to do that. Let's go Bucs.
RhinoBuc
06-14-2002, 09:03 PM
We will finally have an Offense.
MikeM_813
06-14-2002, 10:43 PM
Our offense will finally play with the intensity that our defense traditionally has.
Memphis_Buccaneer
06-14-2002, 10:45 PM
:)
PewterPower
06-14-2002, 10:55 PM
That hopefully Joey Hamilton will get some playing time.....
N2Offkey
06-15-2002, 12:13 AM
The surprise development will have to be the younger defense stepping up. Lynch, Sapp, Brooks and Jackson aren't getting much younger. Dwight Smith, Wansley, Kelly and Korey Ivy are going to have to perform at the Buc level we're all so accustomed to. The secondary is going to be the surprise development of the season. Good or bad depends on how they play under pressure. That remains to be seen.
The way this offseason is going, the offensive side of the ball should not be a surprise to Buc fans at all... which is a good thing.
buccsfan994755
06-15-2002, 02:41 AM
I SAY THE PASSING GAME BUT I ALSO SEE BIG THINGS IN PITTMAN CONSIDERING HIS COMBINATION OF SIZE, STRENGTH, AND AGILITY ALSO I LOOK FOR SAPP, BOOGER, AND RICE TO STEP IT UP THIS YEAR.SACKS, SACKS, SACKS. WELL TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH THEY BETTER PAY ATTENTION TO EVERY DETAIL BECAUSE THE BUCCS ARE BACK BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!::D :D :D :D
rochesterbucs
06-15-2002, 11:34 AM
Offense = Good
Defense = Good
Special teams = Good*
*Here's the surprise, the Bucs finally run back a KO for a TD.
gruden4prez
06-15-2002, 01:09 PM
i think the surprise this season is that we go 12-4, and that marquis walker bumps joe jurevicious for the 3rd reciever job! and i agree with the other guy i really do think that travis stevens, aaron lockett, or arron stecker will finally bring back a touchdown on a kickoff! We'll score 49 points or more this season! the bucs are breakin all records this year! keyshawn and keenan combine for a total of 2,400 yards and 200 receptions! pittman rushes for 1,100 yards and record 13 players go to th pro bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs
at least we have more than one good receiver now!!!
SLOBGOBLIN
06-15-2002, 01:34 PM
yeah,as gruden4prez said,i also see us going 12-4.
but it is really tough to say what order the WR's will be in after the first two slots.
As for a surprise,id like to see a good surprise being that fact that we will make it thru the season & post season without any magor injuries so the whole Core of the Team can play all year.
i also forgot to say that Oben should start at right takle instead of Wunsch.
garydunn
06-15-2002, 02:34 PM
No surprise to I , but a suprise to the NFL would be for the Buccaneers Offense to be rated in the top 5 in Offense and outrating their Defense.
The only thing that won't happen to this New Football team is not making it into the Playoffs.
For the magnitude of effort that went into accumulating so many talented people. I find it virtually impossible for me not to talk about the Buccaneers without mentioning Super Bowl together in the same sentence on the same page.
GO BUCs!
bucsfan6
06-15-2002, 02:53 PM
why do you have a cardinals helmet under your name?:confused:
tampabayfan
06-15-2002, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by N2Offkey
The surprise development will have to be the younger defense stepping up. Lynch, Sapp, Brooks and Jackson aren't getting much younger. Dwight Smith, Wansley, Kelly and Korey Ivy are going to have to perform at the Buc level we're all so accustomed to. The secondary is going to be the surprise development of the season. Good or bad depends on how they play under pressure. That remains to be seen.
The way this offseason is going, the offensive side of the ball should not be a surprise to Buc fans at all... which is a good thing. good point, the younger players have to step up and make a contribution, one of the things that made the D strong was its depth and I think that is hurting right now, so the younger players have got to step in and get the job done. The offense has had the talent before, but with the play calling and the bad offensive coaches led to a disappointing offense. Now that even more talent has been added and we finally have good or even great offensive coaches that the Bucs offense will not disappoint this year. The surprise development will be the downfield throwing game---"huh? whats that you say". :D I am so looking forward to September.
bjohnson1468
06-15-2002, 05:16 PM
i predict that:
Michael Pittman will be third in the league in rushing yards. (Pro Bowl)
K. Johnson will have 90+ receptions. (Pro Bowl)
B. Johnson will have a QB rating of 90+. (Pro Bowl)
Keenan McCardell will have 80+ receptions. (Pro Bowl)
Mike Alstot(sp) will lead the league in rushing TD's.
J. Jurevicious will have 50+ receptions.
Ken Dilger will have 40+ receptions.
O-line will give up only at most 30 sacks.
Outlook for offense looks good overall on everything.
Offense ranks 4th in the league. :)
Defense:
Simeon Rice has 12+ sacks. (Pro Bowl)
John Lynch (Pro Bowl)
Warren Sapp (Pro Bowl)
Nothing else good for the defense that i can predict.
I predict that there will be some pretty key injuries on defense. Because of the lack of depth pretty much everywhere on our defense, it will hurt. I predict Derrick Brooks misses a lot of the season. One of our cornerbacks get hurt for several weeks.
Defense ranks 16th in the league. :(
What we need to do to avoid the defensive scenerio is to add more depth at Defensive End, Inside/Outside linebacker, Cornerback, and btoh safeties.
The offense will end up carrying the defense, something new.
bjohnson1468
06-15-2002, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by JJ17
i also forgot to say that Oben should start at right takle instead of Wunsch.
i agree
rubrnek
06-15-2002, 08:40 PM
The biggest surprise will be that the Bucs, despite the Dolphins fans hex's, have a perfect season and win the Super Bowl!
GO BUCS!!!!!
Bucsman19
06-15-2002, 09:06 PM
Fridt i would like to tell the atlanta faclons fan that there sucks so does warick dunn i dont know who he is but he s a big dumb A###s that first of all. I owuld like to say that are season will be fine i think we will go 12-4 we have the best wide reciver and still a question mark at quaterback and linebacker postion as long as we beat the falcons twice i happy i with our season they have only one player on that team i am worry about that is vick dunn sucks he cant stay health the hole season enuch about the sorry a##s faclons nfc souh champ go bucs>
Bucsman19
06-15-2002, 09:11 PM
I really like our chaces to win a super bowl if not make the nfc champ sorry about the mis spell i was and a rush ok but the go to work the falcons still sucks ok god bless the bucs fan and happy father day to all he dad 12-4 this season go bucs.
tampabaybucfan
06-15-2002, 09:24 PM
There is no doubt that the offense will improve. We may be suprised by Pittman. The real shocker will be the improvement in the already good defense. And believe it or not, it will be because of our improved offense. So may times over the last few years, our offense stalled and we had to send the defense back out. Many times the offense turned the ball over or gave up good field position. Eventually our defense wore down. Look for the Bucs to be awesome on defense this year!
ALSTOTT4PREZ
06-15-2002, 10:19 PM
TAMPA LOOKS EVEN BETTER NOW THAT WE FINALLY HAVE SUFFIECIENT ROSTER DEPTH FOR THE OFFENSE, AND A MAN WHO REALLY KNOWS HOW TO RUN ONE. ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME THOUGH, IS THE FACT THAT A LOT OF NEGLECT SEEMS TO BE MADE TOWARD THE DEFENSE NOW IN TERMS OF ATTENTION WITH FREE AGENCY. I'M WORRIED BECAUSE SAPP, BROOKS, AND LYNCH, THE MAIN "STUDS" OF OUR BIG "D" AREN'T GETTING ANY YOUNGER, AND WITH THE LOSES TO THE DEPTH ON DEFENSE THIS OFFSEASON, IT WILL BE INCREASINGLY HARDER FOR THEM TO CARRY THE BRUNT OF THE LOAD. I THINK THE FRONT OFFICE SHOULD PAY A LITTLE MORE ATTENTION TO THE "D" AND SIGN SOME BIG NAMES, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME KEEP UP THAT "GO GET 'EM" ATTITUDE THAT THEY SEEM TO HAVE FOR THE OFFENSE.
GO BUCS!!!!:D
baconjam
06-15-2002, 11:31 PM
what? SUPERBOWL. nuff' said
Robert Fuller
06-16-2002, 12:01 AM
I already mentioned in my previous post what I think will happen this year in terms of surprises , but after reading one post that mentioned injuries I got a little nervous. Sure injuries are something that happen but you never know when they will happen and how bad they will be. For example in 2000 the Titans defense was #1 against the pass. However in the first 3 games of 2001 they lost almost all of their stars on the secondary and went to absolute dead last against the pass in 2001. They lost: Samari Rolle, Dainon Sidney, Bobby Myers, and Blaine Bishop. To make things worst they had apathetic Kevin Carter who was a complete waist of money as he didn't do crap for the team. Hopefully this year we won't have to worry about the injury bug to any of our big stars and we won't have a bunch of apathetic cry babies that aren't playing because they aren't getting their $13 million bonus.
I'm an 0-26 Survivor
06-16-2002, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by PewterPower
That hopefully Joey Hamilton will get some playing time.....
Gee, that all depends on how long his re-hab will take.:rolleyes:
I think what we will see is a ball control, clock control, dominating offense. No more grab a lead and hang on for dear life. I see us with the ability to control the game and set the tempo. There is enough size now that the 8-in-the-box garbage will be ancient history. All of this will set up good game plans both rushing and passing. My feeling is that we will be able to have a two headed attack on offense that will take some doing to defend against. I'm not worried about the defense. Not one iota.:cool:
I am expecting to have to guess on occasion as to what play will come next.
Musicwolf
06-16-2002, 01:50 AM
I don't think that there is any chance of Joey getting playing time this year.
RhinoBuc
06-16-2002, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Musicwolf
I don't think that there is any chance of Joey getting playing time this year. Me neither.
lowell42
06-16-2002, 04:03 AM
biggest surprise, huh?
tony dungy get canned? oh wait, that already happened.
we finally get smart and get rid of green and anthony? oh, that happened too.
we figure out that there are two sides to a football team, defense and OFFENSE? oh, yup, nailed that one down too.
okay im stumped. its all been a surprise to me. its been one long bucs fan birthday, with every week bringing something shiny and new and fun to play with.
okay, one more surprise. while i think our defensive depth is lacking, i think one of the main reasons we broke down so much over the past 2 (dare i say 3 years?) was that they spent so much time on the field! with the offense that we possess now i think this seasons biggest surpeise with be ...drum roll...the defense is #1 in the league. very anti-climactic, i know, since these guys could be 1 any year, but really believe we will see a level of domination the likes of which we never knew when we our best way to gain field position was to punt.
or we will score so damn much, so damn quick that the defense will get no rest at all.
bucs_rule2001
06-16-2002, 05:11 AM
good point, i never bout that. im gonna have to agree
bucsfan6
06-16-2002, 09:47 PM
how do you get the signs under your name?
bucEbadger
06-16-2002, 10:13 PM
Gramatica scores a career low number of points as he kicks only 8 field goals all season, and Gruden goes for 2 point conversions as play-offs approach.
Also surprised that Buccaneers rushing offense remains ranked in the bottom third of the league due to the success of the passing game with quick touchdowns.
I'm an 0-26 Survivor
06-17-2002, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by bucsfan6
how do you get the signs under your name?
Go to the grocery store, get yourself a case of Snickers bars, and plan on being here for a while. :D
sugarray
06-17-2002, 11:18 AM
I think that the surprise development will be that our team will be balanced for the first time. Both our offense and defense will be ranked in the top ten in the NFL.[SIZE=3]
bucsfan6
06-17-2002, 12:40 PM
they will get past the first round! and win the super bowl
BosMan
06-17-2002, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by marshmallow12
The obvious choice would be the offense, esp. recievers. I do think they will improve, but the biggest improvement will be at middle linebacker...I know it sounds weird but just here me out. Shelton is getting nothing but praise from coach G. He is fast and smart and is a big playmaker. He played mid when he first got to Tampa Bay, and he has enough experience playing behind brooks and on LOLB. I think he will step up and be one of the top MLBs in the league.
See y'all on Jan 26...:D
I agree 110%. Quarles showed flashes of greatness last year while platooning with Singleton. I think he may be what we needed there. My only question with him will be his leadership. If he can be a good leader then he will be great. I think that a pleasant surprise next year will be the D as a whole. We have always had a good D, but with the lead we were usually a great D. They won't have to win 7-8 games a year. I am looking forward to more INT's and sacks.
skinny
06-17-2002, 01:10 PM
Yeah, I didn't think about that....
With the offense able to do more than 3 and out, the defense spends a lot less time on the field. So maybe individual statistics go down (sacks, ints) but just imagine - all that Buc defensive intensity focussed in half the time. So the important D stats are the team stats: yards allowed, points allowed, and my personal favorite, W's (as in WINS)!!!!
17 - 0 ... I can dream, can't I?
acaton
06-17-2002, 01:43 PM
I must admit I do miss the o’l sombrero at times, yes I was a season ticket holder then too. What I miss was being able to get into the stadium and find a seat almost anywhere you wanted anytime you wanted. However, times change and so has this team under the Glazers. At least they are trying to field a winner regardless of what you may think of them personally. I think the surprise this year may be one of reality in that our defense, while playing Dungy ball may have in some cases shortened a carrier or two. To me our defense struggled some last year even in the opening stages of a game and was showing signs of getting a little slower. This team today is better on paper and is perhaps the best it ever has been with the best coach it has ever had. The good part will be that some players on defense will stop trying to talk their way to the pro-bowl or make tackles with their mouth. Offensively we will see a more effective offense than we are accustomed to seeing which will put a lot of fun back into the game for us fans. I am not ready to say we are superbowl bound this year but we do have a team that will show well and demand respect from our opponents. As for the big show if we do advance to the playoffs it will be different than last year in that we won’t just be a warm up game for the contenders!
Beer Me!
the defensive line will prove to be the best. Either most sacks ever or fewest yards allowed rushing for a season!! Why not ?? The offense is apparently going to be so good it will allow the defense to P L A Y. Instead of trying to compensate for an unproductive offense.
BosMan
06-17-2002, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by ALSTOTT4PREZ
TAMPA LOOKS EVEN BETTER NOW THAT WE FINALLY HAVE SUFFIECIENT ROSTER DEPTH FOR THE OFFENSE, AND A MAN WHO REALLY KNOWS HOW TO RUN ONE. ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME THOUGH, IS THE FACT THAT A LOT OF NEGLECT SEEMS TO BE MADE TOWARD THE DEFENSE NOW IN TERMS OF ATTENTION WITH FREE AGENCY. I'M WORRIED BECAUSE SAPP, BROOKS, AND LYNCH, THE MAIN "STUDS" OF OUR BIG "D" AREN'T GETTING ANY YOUNGER, AND WITH THE LOSES TO THE DEPTH ON DEFENSE THIS OFFSEASON, IT WILL BE INCREASINGLY HARDER FOR THEM TO CARRY THE BRUNT OF THE LOAD. I THINK THE FRONT OFFICE SHOULD PAY A LITTLE MORE ATTENTION TO THE "D" AND SIGN SOME BIG NAMES, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME KEEP UP THAT "GO GET 'EM" ATTITUDE THAT THEY SEEM TO HAVE FOR THE OFFENSE.
GO BUCS!!!!:D
WOW already second guessing the offseason moves. No offence, but this offseason they needed to address a dismal offense. Maybe next season they will address the depth on the D. So you can't exactly say that they are ignoring it. They resigned Kelly, restructured Rice's contract (picking up the option to keep him), and they have picked up someone to replace White that is even better (Greg Spires). He may even compete for a starting position. The depth question is at CB, a very thin position in free agency, and there really hasn't been great LB's to chose from either.
jersey buc
06-17-2002, 04:18 PM
going to SUPERBOWL
burtonhoff
06-17-2002, 04:57 PM
The Bucs have made a lot of great moves in the offseason, and expectations for this year are very high. That being said, I think this years biggest surprise might be another slow start. It is hard to get adjusted to a new system. The Bucs have had to do that each of the last three years, and they have had slow starts each of those years. I hope that I am wrong, but if I am right I think it will be the biggest surprise for very excited fans. Also I think Alstott will be exposed as a mediocre runner and a weak blocker. He hits people so hard and square when he is running, why can't he pick up a block? I'm very excited for this season to start.
dman_from_hell
06-17-2002, 09:31 PM
good. mainly the offense, bad, defense
Bucs+GaDawgsFAN
06-18-2002, 02:51 AM
I think our offense will be much improved yet not dominating. what I do fear is our run defense. at times last year year, opposing rbs ran consistently would average 4 or 5 yards per carry. i think our defense yielded a 4.1 average per carry. also, the defense allowed many long runs. i just hope shelton has added weight to play mlb. IMO he has the ability to play in the middle, and hopefully, with a fully healthy brooks this season, he will return to 2000 form(although he didn't have a real bad season last year)
on a different note, i think our passing defense will be stingy. i see dwight smith replacing kelly by the 3rd or 4th game and smith will have a breakout season. also, i grew up watching the ga dawgs and have watched jermaine phillips the past few seasons at georgia. i have heard positive reviews about him at camps, and i see him replacing dexter jackson towards the end of the season. the guy is a playmaker. he was projected to go in the 3rd round but dropped for whatever reason. he was a steal in the 5th. he has a nose for the ball and hits like lynch(....well almost)
Go Bucs
I do think the Buc's can go all the way if they get some help in the CB department. I still dont understand why we have Brad"Glass Jaw" Johnson as QB. We shoulda used him and Dunn for trade bait and signed a quaterback who isnt afraid to take risks and who is mobile , or traded up and drafted a good college QB like Harrington or Ramsey . Gruden will help out a lot in the offensive part and Monte Kifen is still as good as always in The D . With the additions of Joe Jurvecious , Kenon McCardell , and Marquise Walker the Buc's will have some other targets besides Key, not to mention Dilger and Marco at the tight-end spot.
stewbdo
06-18-2002, 04:26 AM
I think the surprise this year will be that Shaun King will be the starting QB come September. I have been a fan of his since day one and i think Coach Gruden is too. Gruden's system is great for King cause he doesn't have to throw down field which he himself has stated that he's not very good at. King's ability to get out of the pocket will put him ahead of both Johnson's. Brad has cement feet and Rod holds on to the ball way to long (but he can run). With the West coast offence in place King can throw all the intermediate passes across the field all day long and with Pittman finally giving the Bucs a running game that's speed and power that will take a lot of pressure of the QB's. King will have a huge year throwing to the two K's and Pittman.
burtonhoff
06-18-2002, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by hed
I still dont understand why we have Brad"Glass Jaw" Johnson as QB.
First of all, how can you call him glass jaw, the dude took more hits then anyone else on the team last year. He got hit almost 40 times against the Lions, the worst team in football. He isn't afraid to stay in there and take the hit while throwing. Second, lets address the "mobile quarterback" issue. All the Brad Johnson haters are screaming for a mobile quarterback. Lets look at the quarterbacks that have won the last few superbowls. We have Brady, scrambles some but not a running quarterback, Dilfer, couldn't run to save his life, Warner, not a runner, Elway, too old to run, and Favre, who will scramble some but is not a running quarterback. Gee we just have to get rid of our acurate passer and get ourselves a running quarterback, that is obviously the key to a superbowl.
I think the surprise of this year could be Brad Johnson silencing the skeptics. If the front line shows up for some games this year and kenyatta walker doesn't let everyone walk by then Brad could really put up some impressive numbers and silence the haters.
Bettand
06-18-2002, 12:47 PM
I think if they can harnass Nate Webster's brain to go along with his heart, motor, and ability...he can be a big surprise for us. He reminds me of a Sam Mills type player physically. The problem is his feistiness causes dumb penalties and takes him out of too many plays. If they can work on that, he could be a really nice surprise for us.
Bucamaniac40
06-18-2002, 05:23 PM
Biggest developement will be the revamped offense as a hole
I'm an 0-26 Survivor
06-18-2002, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Bucamaniac40
Biggest developement will be the revamped offense as a hole
Amazing how one missing letter changes the entire character of a post. :D
(JK Maniac) :)
PaTbBucfan
06-18-2002, 11:47 PM
Passing for 20yds or more on first down.
You know...Johnson and Johnson!
bjohnson1468
06-19-2002, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by burtonhoff
First of all, how can you call him glass jaw, the dude took more hits then anyone else on the team last year. He got hit almost 40 times against the Lions, the worst team in football. He isn't afraid to stay in there and take the hit while throwing. Second, lets address the "mobile quarterback" issue. All the Brad Johnson haters are screaming for a mobile quarterback. Lets look at the quarterbacks that have won the last few superbowls. We have Brady, scrambles some but not a running quarterback, Dilfer, couldn't run to save his life, Warner, not a runner, Elway, too old to run, and Favre, who will scramble some but is not a running quarterback. Gee we just have to get rid of our acurate passer and get ourselves a running quarterback, that is obviously the key to a superbowl.
I think the surprise of this year could be Brad Johnson silencing the skeptics. If the front line shows up for some games this year and kenyatta walker doesn't let everyone walk by then Brad could really put up some impressive numbers and silence the haters.
AMEN
BosMan
06-19-2002, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by burtonhoff
First of all, how can you call him glass jaw, the dude took more hits then anyone else on the team last year. He got hit almost 40 times against the Lions, the worst team in football. He isn't afraid to stay in there and take the hit while throwing. Second, lets address the "mobile quarterback" issue. All the Brad Johnson haters are screaming for a mobile quarterback. Lets look at the quarterbacks that have won the last few superbowls. We have Brady, scrambles some but not a running quarterback, Dilfer, couldn't run to save his life, Warner, not a runner, Elway, too old to run, and Favre, who will scramble some but is not a running quarterback. Gee we just have to get rid of our acurate passer and get ourselves a running quarterback, that is obviously the key to a superbowl.
I think the surprise of this year could be Brad Johnson silencing the skeptics. If the front line shows up for some games this year and kenyatta walker doesn't let everyone walk by then Brad could really put up some impressive numbers and silence the haters.
Brady- Not a great rushing QB, but still able to get out of the pocket and make things happen.
Dilfer- That's pretty much all he did was try to run out of the pocket. Granted he wasn't very good at it, but he wasn't a great QB either.
Warner- Doesn't have to run. He can sit in the pocket all day, and on the days he can't he likes to throw alot of picks.
NOW DOWN TO TWO.
Favre- You can't be serious. Have you ever seen him play? He kills people when he starts moving around.
Elway- Even when he won the Super Bowls he was a running QB. He was one of the all time best.
You did forget another one.
Young- Another of the all time best mobile QB's.
Being mobile is not a requirement, but you have to be in order to make things happen in this league. QB's can't always benefit from having good receivers (Warner, and Johnson in Minnesota and Washington). When either of these QB's get alot of pressure that start making mistakes, the mobile QB has a better chance of creating plays by moving around and buying time.
B. JOHNSON IS NOT MOBILE.
burtonhoff
06-20-2002, 09:20 AM
Favre does leave the pocket and throws very well on the run, I admitted that. I am talking about QB's that run a lot such as McNabb, Culpepper, Flutie, Stewart, McNair, and now Vick. The only thing that Dilfer ran for was his life. Young did run a very good QB draw but he never put up the kind of running numbers that these guys did, and I still disagree about elway. It was rare to see him scramble for yards.
I'm an 0-26 Survivor
06-20-2002, 09:48 PM
The only thing that Dilfer ran for was his life.
I vaguely remember that Trent was pretty decent at getting away from the rush. :)
Young did run a very good QB draw but he never put up the kind of running numbers that these guys did,
Umm, Okay....If you say sooooo.:rolleyes: Although I distinctly think he ran maybe a little bit. Until he was told NOT to.
and I still disagree about elway. It was rare to see him scramble for yards. [/B][/QUOTE]
Must have been a different quarterback in that Super Bowl against the Packers.....:p
I have my fingers crossed and hope Brad Johnson does not get "tunnel vision" and only throws to Key. I felt that last year, BJ only had KJ in his sights. If he does not spread the ball around frequently, other WRs will be disenchanted in the later part of the season. I will leave that up to Coach G to insure that does not happen.
JingoBuc
06-23-2002, 01:04 PM
Just a guess but, Sapp's shoulder might not hold up and he will have to miss part of the season.
Would that be a surprise development?
GATORBUC81
06-23-2002, 06:26 PM
I think that by seasons end the defense will be ranked #1 in the NFL and will have broken numerous defensive records. This will be mostly due to the fact of great offensive production and this will give the defense plenty of rest and raise morale.
Chucky
06-29-2002, 11:53 PM
Kenyatta Walker
sounds7
07-02-2002, 11:09 PM
When right off the bat they get their butts handed to them by the Saints!
fcbayern2000
07-02-2002, 11:35 PM
well win the superbowl.:D :D :D
sounds7
07-02-2002, 11:49 PM
Superbowl? Not likely since you wont win the division. Maybe you will make the play offs as a wild card again and then choke in the important games like you always do.
Chucky
07-03-2002, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by sounds7
Superbowl? Not likely since you wont win the division. Maybe you will make the play offs as a wild card again and then choke in the important games like you always do.
then again, maybe not. If we don't win our division, the Falcons and Aints won't either. the panthers will.
sounds7
07-03-2002, 12:12 AM
Yea now you being down right foolish Chunky, By the way never got your age. 10, 11?
Chucky
07-03-2002, 12:15 AM
Already told you, 687 which translates to 67 sonny boy.
sounds7
07-03-2002, 12:43 AM
Well that makes it worse. How can I trash an old fart . Age has probably limited you mentally which explains your short, often unclear posts. Keep on truckin old man and tell the others in the old folks home I said hi.:D
fcbayern2000
07-03-2002, 12:55 AM
we will win the big one, the saints suck
sounds7
07-03-2002, 05:29 AM
We will win the big one (Bucs suck) and then our basketball (Hornets) is going to kick some Orlando Magic Butt.
Chucky
07-03-2002, 11:06 AM
I just remembere that today is opposite day. Which means the Saints suck, and the Magic will kill the Hornets.
skinny
07-03-2002, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by sounds7
We will win the big one (Bucs suck) and then our basketball (Hornets) is going to kick some Orlando Magic Butt.
Hey, sounds7, yer ugly and yer mother dresses you funny. Specially the helmet.
MissouriBucFan
07-04-2002, 04:58 AM
Ok, everyone REALLY think about this. The D was awesome even when they were TIRED!! Just think how great they'll be when they're fresh for 4 quarters. The reason we have fell in the past, was play calling, an inadequate offense, which in turn wore down the D and they couldn't hold every game like Dungy wanted them to. Now, the Offense WILL score points and have long sustained drives, which means a FRESH Buc D every down. Which to me is a scary thought. No predictions here, just facts. A better run to the Super Bowl and a MUCH improved Offense.
I'm an 0-26 Survivor
07-04-2002, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by sounds7
Yea now you being down right foolish Chunky, By the way never got your age. 10, 11? I'm liking this ignore feature more and more.:D
This mamaluke hasn't written an intelligent post since he/she started.:rolleyes:
You are the weakest Dink. Goodbye.
:p
A-Train
07-08-2002, 02:03 PM
Good - Our receiving corps will be stunning
Bad - Our secondary will fall a bit
justin ward
07-08-2002, 03:31 PM
I think the surprise development will be the passing game. The Bucs have allways been good running the ball. Plus, the Bucs have three QB's, if one of them doesn't do so well then #2 will start.
Brooks #1 fan
07-08-2002, 11:51 PM
Sounds 7 I can guarntee we will win the divison unlike u guys we won't choke this year the saints will were going to win the SuperBowl oh yeah Sounds 7 are all Saints fans as obnoxuis as you just becuase they know the Bucs are better too.
A-Train
07-11-2002, 11:42 PM
good...receivers
fcbayern2000
07-12-2002, 12:01 AM
i was going to say the same thing, saints fans are very obnoxius and arrogant
Originally posted by Brooks #1 fan
Sounds 7 I can guarntee we will win the divison unlike u guys we won't choke this year the saints will were going to win the SuperBowl oh yeah Sounds 7 are all Saints fans as obnoxuis as you just becuase they know the Bucs are better too.
lilgruden
07-12-2002, 11:35 AM
I think our offence will finally start putting some points on the board. This will take a lot of stress off our defence. LETS GO TAMPA!!!:D
dbucfan
07-18-2002, 04:38 PM
I don't know how much of a surprise it will be but I expect Frank Murphy to become the third wideout, and perhaps displace McCardell as #2 next year.
RBarberFan20
07-18-2002, 04:45 PM
Warren did nothing but talk last off-season, and he had a poor year. When was the last time you heard him saying something in the media this off-season? My hope, and prediction, is that Warren is going to come out weighing about 280, and have another breakout year like he did in 2000.
Luke
jovann63
07-24-2002, 03:12 AM
I THINK THE PASSING GAME WILL STEP UP WITH THE LOSS OF DUNN AND THE ADDITION OF THE JAGS WR(CANT REMEMBER NAME)
Frenzy Bucs 47
07-24-2002, 10:20 AM
passing attack !
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