Who are the most overrated and underrated players in the NFL?

[Hot Topic]

Not much explanation needed on this one. Which players around the league strike you as being significantly more or less productive than their reputations would indicate?

[safi0]

Overrated Jason Sehorn-Not a good football player but since he's in New York and married to a beautiful woman he gets all the attention
Underrated Curtis Martin-Ever since he dumped Toni Braxton the media hasn't seemed to like him much but he's a workhorse and will always give you 110%

[TheBarber]

Originally posted by KJ4Life
overrated: kurt warner

he throws alot of interceptions, and he is the main reason the rams had 44 turnovers last year. given he has an amazing arm, look at the guys around him. marshall, isaac, torry...... it's way too hard NOT to throw alot of TD's!

underrated: corey dillon

he is the best RB in the league with exception to marshall faulk. he can run the ball better than most backs, and has alot of heart. i think he will have a breakout season this year, and will help those bungles reach the playoffs.

I totally agree

100%

[Keyshawn80]

Overrated= Kurt Warner and Michael Strahan just because of what he said about Sapp and his whole playoff speech.
Underrated= Jameel Cook because not a lot of NFL Analysts have ever talked about him and how well of a blocker he is.

[bocaj205]

Overrated: Marshall Faulk, Randy Moss, Steve Spurrier, Rams Defense, Daunte Culpepper, Michael Vick, Brian Griese(Overpaid)


Underrated: Shaun Alexander, The Bucs, Antwoain Smith,

[rochesterbucs]

I agree with safi0 - Jason Sehorn is way overrated, he's hurt more than he plays and when he does play he's only adequate.

I always believed that James Allen was underrated as a Bear. Now that he's with the Texans people will start noticing him.

[Pittman #1 RB]

overater: ray lewis and brian urlacher they are only so good because of them Huge DT

underated:cory dillion any one who breaks a walter payton record is great (most rushing yards in one game) and eric moulds maybe he will shine this year will DB

[skinny]

Underrated - Rams OL - they make Trent Green and Trung Canidate look like Kurt Warner and Marshall Faulk (or is that the other way around).

Overrated: Ray Lewis. Not that he isn't great, but that's a lot of cap money to pay a LB in a 3-4 scheme. Considering that Baltimore is just a shell of their former SB champion selves, they needed to use cap room much more wisely. Lewis' contract will set them back by another couple of years.

Underrated - Neil O'Donnell looked pretty good in the pocket last year in Philly when McNabb was out. Or so I thought. Nobody else said anything.

Underrated - Trent Dilfer. How many has he won in a row?

Underrated - Flutie. With a good O-line, he gets the job done (Buffalo into the playoffs, for example. Before last season the writers were saying San Diego's O-line was a joke. Now they say it's Flutie's fault. I say he's barely big enough to play QB, but he's way too small to block, even though he does that too. Deserves much more respect.)

Overrated - Kitna should not be a starter in the NFL.

[sexwithsimeon]

over rated- Jason seahorn, he is mediocre at best. Does he stil start? Let it go. Ricky williams, Ray lewis.

Underrated- st louis OL. They are great. Pittsburgh's secondary. Jimmy Smith, shaun alexander.

[marshmallow12]

OVERRATED- Randy "I play when I want to" Moss, and Kurt Warner (Even I could succeed with the offensive weapons he's got). Ricky Williams (isn't Dolphins savior, trust me).

UNDERRATED- Mike Vick, the bengals, and Lavar Arrington.

On the bucs:

OVERRATED- Ken Dilger (I like him but he isn't quite as good as the media builds him up to be. I'm glad we have him, but he only made the probowl last year after two other TE's were unable to attend)

UNDERRATED-Aaron Stecker (the 86 yd KR speaks for itself)

[marshmallow12]

hey skinny, I agree...Dilfer is underrated. The man gets no respect.

[garydunn]

Overated: Randy Moss, Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Ray Lewis.


Undrated: Moulds, Mike Alstott, Brad Johnson, Simeon Rice

[sexwithsimeon]

Originally posted by garydunn
Overated: Randy Moss, Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Ray Lewis.


Undrated: Moulds, Mike Alstott, Brad Johnson, Simeon Rice


YES, Preach My brother, MY SIMY is so underated. Thanks you have made my day.

[BADBOY99]

Most overrated player is:Jason Seahorn(he sucks!!!).
Most underrated player is: Ronde Barber (lead the nfl with 10 picks last year and earned a trip to the pro-bowl. But never really got his props ).

[Chucky]

Overrated= Michael Strahan/ Brian Urlacher
Underrated= Michael Pittman/ Ronde Barber/ Dwight Smith

[chaosman]

Overrated- Kurt Warner, I would like to see how he does when Faulk retires and he doesn't have that great of a running game to fall back on.

Underrated- I think that Akili Smith is underrated because the one year they gave him he didn't have a lot on offense to work with maybe with another team he can do something but I think that he has the ability to be a good QB.

[fcbayern2000]

Overrated - Kurt Warner,
Underrated - Ronde Barber

[Lynchisgod47]

overrated-ray lewis i dont know y but i dont like him and he gets way to much hype

underated-preist holmes he led the league in rushing yds but barely anybodys heard of him. Maybe its because hes not on a very good team

[skinny]

Originally posted by chaosman
Underrated- I think that Akili Smith is underrated because the one year they gave him he didn't have a lot on offense to work with maybe with another team he can do something but I think that he has the ability to be a good QB.


I saw this clip (I think everyone else did too) where Akili missed a snap and then DIDN'T GO CHASE IT. Like he was too bored to be in the NFL. The announcers were shouting but I couldn't hear what they were saying because I was too busy shouting. No slackers!

[the pimp]

Personally I think Michael Strahen is the most overrated player in the NFL. Everybody kbnows that Brett Farb let him have that sack. Besides, you know that Warren Sapp is going to inevitably break it anyway. The most underrated player in the NFL has got to be Trent Dilfer. In the limited play that he had with the Seahawks last yesar he carried the team. I think that Dilfer is another Terry Bradshaw. I mean, in thre Beginning of Bradshaw's career he was a quintessential buffoon of a quarterback-according to the majority of fans. That is the same case with Dilfer. Both went on to become winning quarterbacks and helped win superbowls. It took them a while, but both quarterbacks not only helped win superbowls-they eventually began to carry their teams. One difference though, Bradshaw stayed with the Steelers while Dilfer went from team to team.

[Bucamaniac40]

MOST OVERATED WARREN SAPP BY FAR

MOST UNDERATED Ronde Barber

[the pimp]

if you think the saints suck give me a hell ya

[I'm an 0-26 Survivor]

Originally posted by bocaj205
Overrated: Marshall Faulk, Randy Moss, Steve Spurrier, Rams Defense, Daunte Culpepper, Michael Vick, Brian Griese(Overpaid)


Underrated: Shaun Alexander, The Bucs, Antwoain Smith,


"Barkeep, I'll have whatever he's having".:cool:

[the pimp]

I think personally that the sticky sapp desvrves all the publicity that he gets

[the pimp]

the bucs suck her on UPN44 I say

[the pimp]

remember like monte kiffin says always chante defense defense

[pigeonthebucfan]

NFL
Overrated: Ray Lewis, Ricky Williams
Underrated: Trent Dilfer, Corey Dillon

Bucs
Overrated: Warren Sapp, Keyshawn Johnson, Brad Johnson

[the pimp]

now that we have ben emancipated frome Toney Dunged reealistically i think that it will be a while befor the offense get's aney bether

[the pimp]

aney that think's that the sticky sapp and Brad and keeshawn johnson are overrated is a ignoramus

[the pimp]

Go Bucs aney who dos not like the bucs can tern it sideways and stick it strait -----------------------------------



EDITED:

pimp, try to control the content & context of you phrases. This BBS is frequnted by all ages. Thank you.

TBB MOD I
TBB BBS Staff

[Chucky]

Originally posted by the pimp
if you think the saints suck give me a hell ya I think the Saints suck

[TB_Bucs]

Overrated: Daunte Culpepper, Micheal Vick, and The Rams

Underrated: Shaun King, Joe Hamilton, and Rhonde Barber

King took the Bucs to the NFC championship game
Hamilton led NFL Europe in passing yards until he got hurt
Barber tied the record for most interceptions in a season

Culpepper is good, but not that good
Vick is a little young
The Rams can win the small games but not the big ones

[mckegger]

I am a die hard Bucs fan, but I have to admit that Warren Sapp is overrated. He is good, but not great. I hope he does great this year and proves me wrong, but I don't think at this point he is worth anywhere near his salary. He had one excellent year and a series of good years.

With that being said, Derrick Brooks is the best linebacker in football, and that includes Ray Lewis.

I DO NOT HAVE A BIAS IN MY OPINION. I AM ACTUALLY A MIAMI HURRICANE FAN, SO IT HURTS TO PRAISE A FSU PLAYER OVER TWO MIAMI PLAYERS.

[BORIBUC]

OVERRATED: Kurt Warner, Pittsburgh Steelers (except Bettis), Aaron Brooks, Jason Sehorn, Jeremiah Trotter, Michael Vick, Julius Peppers, Corey Bradford, Randy Moss, Matt Haselbach, Rob Johnson, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila

UNDERRATED:
Tampa Bay - Jameel Cook, Aaron Stecker, Dwight Smith
Atlanta - Bob Christian, Brian Finneran
Carolina - Michael Bates
New Orleans - Sammy Knight
Detriot - Cory Schlesinger
Chicago - Rabih Abdullah, Olin Kreutz
Green Bay - Jamal Reynolds, William Henderson
Dallas - Dexter Coakley, Anthony Wright
Philadelphia - Brian Mitchell, Corey Simon
St. Louis - Yo Murphy
Arizona - Josh Scobey
San Francisco - Garrison Hearst, Kevan Barlow, Julian Peterson,
Andre Carter
Indianapolis - Mike Peterson, Reggie Wayne
Miami - Ray Lucas
Jacksonville - Donovin Darius
Tennessee - Randall Godfrey
N.Y. - Sam Cowart, Richie Anderson, Laveranues Coles
Pittsburgh - Chris Fuamatu-Ma afala
Cleveland - Anthony Henry
Cincinnati - Corey Dillon
Denver - Rod Smith, Ed McCaffrey, Kevin Kasper
Oakland - Greg Biekert, Zack Crockett
Kansas City - Snoop Minnis
San Diego - Doug Flutie, Tim Dwight, Rodney Harrison

[clint]

I think Trent Dilfer is very underated. No, he isn't the most physically gifted player in the league, but he puts up wins consistently. What else can you ask for?

[bigsaint]

overrated: keyshawn johnson, lavar arrington

underated: sammie knight one the best safties in nfl not to be drafted.;)

[CrashBAT38]

Overrated- Brad Johnson
Underrated - Shaun King

[312c]

OVERRATED- WARREN SAPP, KEYSHAWN "CRYBABY" JOHNSON, JON GRUDEN, AND THE TAMPA BAY BUCS

UNDERRATED - RANDY MOSS AND DAUNTE CULPEPPER - THE BEST COMBO IN THE COUNTRY!

[dfrag]

The most overrated player in the NFL:Warren Sapp

The most underrated player in the NFL:Cory Dillon

[Bradael]

Overated: Ricky Williams - He gets so many yards but he has so many carries. Averaging barely 4.0 yards a carry. Plus he is injury prone, missing 10 games in his first two seasons and he fumbles the ball way too much.

Keith Mitchel - Went to the probowl by returning an INT and fumble for a TD. Played in Haslett's "buck end" position that year so he was put in position to make all the big plays. Sucked last year when Charlie was the buck end.

Underated: Simeon Rice - Has two very good DTs to help protect him, but he still makes a lot of plays.

Fred Thomas - First time starter last year after coming off an injury and was incredible in man to man coverage. Yet most people probably don't even know what position he plays when they hear his name.

[Hawxter19]

Originally posted by Pittman #1 RB
overater: ray lewis and brian urlacher they are only so good because of them Huge DT

underated:cory dillion any one who breaks a walter payton record is great (most rushing yards in one game) and eric moulds maybe he will shine this year will DB

Having to big DT's infront of them helps them get better, Sam Cowart had Ted Washington in Buffalo, Trotter had Corey Simon and some other guy(I don't pay much attention to the Eagles), Hardy Nickerson had Sapp and Brad Culpepper I believe. So having big DT's only helps, Oh and Zach Thomas had Gardener and Bowens.

Overrated: Kurt Warner... any QB in his spot could become a very good QB(Trent Green had a 100+ QB rating when Warner got hurt) Azair Hakim(sp?), Joey Harrington(people keep saying that he should have been the first pick)

Underrated: Edgerrin James, held the rushing titles his first two years and also had the second most YFS. Ed McCaffery, Corey Dillon, David Carr(some think he will be a bust, but he has a lot of heart, a very good QB coach, and Gaffeney(sp?) will be a star).

[Hawxter19]

I don't see why some of you say Randy Moss is overrated... He puts up better numbers than a lot of players even when 'he doesn't feel like playing'.

[keithew3]

Seahorn overated


The Barber brothers underated

[MOWSER]

overrated- kurt warner, randy moss

underrated- jeff garcia

[MOWSER]

Originally posted by 312c
OVERRATED- WARREN SAPP, KEYSHAWN "CRYBABY" JOHNSON, JON GRUDEN, AND THE TAMPA BAY BUCS

UNDERRATED - RANDY MOSS AND DAUNTE CULPEPPER - THE BEST COMBO IN THE COUNTRY!

if you don't have anything intellegnt to say, GO AWAY!!!

[Pittman #1 RB]

Most Overater: Trent Dilver he is 20 and 1 in his last 21 games (or something like that) but he dident win any of them his D did in baltimore he might have won 1 or 2 games at seatle and also Tom Brady is another most overated

Most Underated: Eric Moulds and all offensive linemen

[skinny]

Originally posted by 312c
OVERRATED- WARREN SAPP, KEYSHAWN "CRYBABY" JOHNSON, JON GRUDEN, AND THE TAMPA BAY BUCS

UNDERRATED - RANDY MOSS AND DAUNTE CULPEPPER - THE BEST COMBO IN THE COUNTRY!

I don't mind trash talking Eagle fans, Rams fans, somebody from a real team.

N'Orleans fans I would expect here, they used to be a real team. Hope they're better than they look on paper right now.

But what's with the Bills, Falcons, and now this Viking guy.

the Vikings are the last "all offense-no defense" team left. They melted down last year. Their head coach left before the season was over (what was that?). The 2nd NFL all time leading receiver walked away rather than put up another season. But it gets getter:

They made their O-line coach their new head coach, then they spent their first draft pick on O-line. People keep telling them - your defense sucks! But do they listen? They let Kailee Wong go in the expansion draft, John Randle the year before. No, they don't get it.

When you go 0-16 this year, remember: DRAFT DEFENSE. Build defense. Never spend $75 mill on a WR (was it that much? not sure). What are you, nuts?

[Bucamaniac40]

Originally posted by CrashBAT38
Overrated- Brad Johnson
Underrated - Shaun King Are you related to King?Shuan King has proved that he can't handle it day in and day out in the NFL!

[Master C]

Kurt Warner is definately overrated. He throws twice as many pics as TDs. He couldnt beat the bucs after they got a cheap call in the NFC Championship game in 99. Everyone says hes the best. but any decent QB could be the best if you have guys like Marshall Faulk,Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt around you. He is overrated because the rams get to the playoffs every year.

Priest Holmes is underrated. He led the NFL in rushing last season with over 1500 yards. He is one of the few real complete running backs in the league who dones a fine job of catching balls out of the backfield. He is never seen as this great player because he is on the chiefs. If the chiefs get better you will see him become more popular.

[the#1bucfanman]

Over-Rated Bucamaniac, Mckegger and all who think Sapp is overrated go back to greenbay ok you band wagon Buc Fans stink
Under-Rated Trent Dilfer, Mike Allstott:D

[Robert Fuller]

The most over rated players have to be: Micheal " I can only scramble" Vick, Aaron " I'm too arrogent to watch film" Brooks, at times Warren Sapp (6 sacks just doesn't cut it), and Jason " ***et" Sehorn.
The most under rated players are: Dat Nguyen, Joe Jurevicius, Drew Brees, Priest Holmes and Jon Runyan. All of these players have slowly becoming or already are integral parts of thier team and will become big time players.

[sexwithsimeon]

Dat is a hard worker. I think he is good!

[SLOBGOBLIN]

MOST Over Rated player:Drew Bledsoe,He is not as good as his cortract at the Pats,I think that is one reason they traded him.Look at when the Bucs played against him,we Held him in check.
MOST Under Rated:Trent Dilfer,dang he just wins football games,and Holgrem Disses him last year and hardly plays him till the Crowd threatens to boycott,also us letting him go was a BIG MISTAKE as i always have said.

[marshmallow12]

sorry garydunn, Marshall Faulk isn't overrated. He's the real deal. That doesn't mean I like him but he's probably the best player in the league.

Now...what's all this Strahan bashin' about. I know you guys agree with Warren, and so do I. The farve sack was a gift. But the 21.5 others weren't. I don't like Strahan and I do think he looks like Mr. Ed, and that some of the things he said about stuff was way off and didn't make a whole lot of sense, but he is still a great player. Sapp needs to realize that the best way to shut up Mr. Ed, is to go out next year and get 23 sacks. These guys are grown men, if they got somethin to say to one another, they should man up and say it face to face, instead of going through the media. I mean, c'mon guys, your not in third grade anymore...
agree?

GO BUCS!!

"You know what I should say to him (Strahan)......I should say...YOU...LOST...TO...DILFER."
-Warren Sapp
August 6, 2002
St.Petersburg Times

[Hawxter19]

Originally posted by Robert Fuller
The most over rated players have to be: Micheal " I can only scramble" Vick, Aaron " I'm too arrogent to watch film" Brooks, at times Warren Sapp (6 sacks just doesn't cut it), and Jason " ***et" Sehorn.
The most under rated players are: Dat Nguyen, Joe Jurevicius, Drew Brees, Priest Holmes and Jon Runyan. All of these players have slowly becoming or already are integral parts of thier team and will become big time players.

I guess you can play with injuries, and on top of that be double and triple teamed every down... 6 is a lot considering what he had to go through. You can't say Vick is over-rated... He hasn't under-achieved, yes he has a big contract, but last year was a learning year for him. So I guess this means McNabb is over-rated too...:rolleyes:

[tru]

the most overrated players are just about everyone on the rams that team is not that good and i dont like all of the hype about them because there shouldnt be the rams fell apart they think that no one can beat them and they are wrong...

[Hawxter19]

Originally posted by tru
the most overrated players are just about everyone on the rams that team is not that good and i dont like all of the hype about them because there shouldnt be the rams fell apart they think that no one can beat them and they are wrong...

The ONLY overrated player on the Rams is Warner, do yourself a favor and get off the board before you post more things like this.

[BucINT20]

Originally posted by marshmallow12
These guys are grown men, if they got somethin to say to one another, they should man up and say it face to face, instead of going through the media. I mean, c'mon guys, your not in third grade anymore...


well 1500 miles is a long way to go during training camp just to have a few words :p

just messing around, man...i agree. the whole thing is that the press got this ball rolling, and then strahan has to say his bit, which means sapp has to say something else...once the press got the ball rolling, the guy who shut up first "loses". they seem to have gotten smarter; strahan's wishing sapp well for the season, and sapp at least gave him props for the 21.5. i hope it's over, i'd rather hear about actual football news myself...now to answer the question.


OVERRATED:
jason sehorn - he's an actor\spokesman who happens to run fast and collect a check from the NY giants for showing up to half their games (if that) during his "career"

tom brady - i hate NE fans. i really do. he is to 2002 what jake plummer was to '99

UNDERRATED:
corey dillon - the guys a soldier. he puts up amazing numbers on an offense that's...well...cincinatti's

[Hawxter19]

Originally posted by BucINT20




tom brady - i hate NE fans. i really do. he is to 2002 what jake plummer was to '99


So you hate me? Honestly I don't like Brady that much, I still would love to see Bledsoe in there.

[Bucs9090]

Overrated: Kurt Warner....Rams Offensive Line....Corey Simon....Warrick Dunn (sorry but its true)....Jeff Christy and Randall McDaniel.

Underrated: Cosey Coleman...Jerry Wuncsh...Dwight Smith...Mike Alstott.

[dman_from_hell]

underrated-dillion
overrated-warner, by far, if u look, green 2 years ago came in 4 plays completed 3 of em, threw for 75 yards and a td, in 4 plays, cmon i can go onto the rams and throw touchdowns with their recievers.

[PewterPower]

Overrated - 1. Randy Moss
2. Tony Gonzalez
3. Jason Sehorn



Underrated - 1. Trent Dilfer
2. Dominick Rhodes
3. Jameel Cook
4. Shelton Quarles

[J-DEE]

it seems like most bucs fans have a thingfor RAM bashing. keep it going!!

OVERRATED! agree on Sehorn. since his knee operation a few years ago the two plays I remember are him pulling up his paints when he got burned for a TD. But also the tip, rolling INT and return for TD in a playoff game.
MOSS. if he would decide to play like a man, like Key, he could be a top WR. ight now he's the "ooh lok at the amazing catch OR look at the way he let the DB get the INT or stand around on running plays. just like two former gators the bucs had!

DISSAGREE: no one can say that players like SAPP, KEYSHAWN, STRAHAN, FAULK, are not as good as the hype.

DILFER: get real, but the guy wins games(recently) but his skills are limited. did anyone take a close look at the SB. he only made 3 good throws and the rest were either picked or almost picked, overthrown, underthrown, or thrown away. he was in the right place at the right time with the the Ravens, just like Mark Rypien years ago in Wash. i'll give him this-he was tough.

BOTTOM LINE: any player is only as good or bad as the players around him. WOuld Warner be that good playing with E.Rhett, J.Green, R.Anthony? Does anybody remember how Vinny and Steve Young looked when with the BUCS?

UNderrated:any good player who doesn't play in a big city market.

[BucINT20]

Originally posted by Hawxter19
So you hate me?

as individuals, i've had many friends who are pats\sox\celtics fans....but going to college in boston, i just can't stand them as a group\mob\bitter bunch of folks.....they seem to put more energy into disliking NY teams than actually supporting their own teams....i'm pretty sure the diamondbacks beating the yankees was a bigger event than the pats winning the SB up there :p

[BROOKS55]

Overrated:
Jason Sehorn - Only good play in career was the roll over interception return unless you consider the David Letterman appearance a good play, i bet he and all giant fans do.

Kurt Warner & wife - You have to address them at the same time, when do you ever see one without the other? He aint that good and she aint that pretty.

St. Louis Rams - We've beat them every game since we got ripped off in the 1999 NFC championship game. We'll beat their butts again this year the day before my b-day. I'll have even more to celebrate when Sapp and Rice force the media to not show us shots of Howie Long, i mean Kurts wife on the sidelines so much. For some reason when Kurt does bad, we are relieved of having to see her:confused: .

Randy Moss - Give me one day to show coaches in camp that i can run half plays all day and still be considered the best reciever in the history of the team and i'll give you one lazy *******, which is what Moss already does.


Now the Underrated:


Marcus Robinson, Eric Moulds, and Troy Brown - Three quality recievers that work harder than they get credit for. As a matter of fact, add Key to that list.

Priest Holmes, and Corey Dillon - Two trend setters from last year that continue to work hard and will shine again this year. As a matter of fact, add Alstott to that list.

Derrick Brooks - By far my most favorite player. This guy does it all and people still consider Ray Lewis better??? Derrick could eat Ray's lunch if they could do a head to head tackling contest. I predict this year will be Brook's best ever.

I'm sure i forgot alot of people.

Seeya

[bucs14fan]

Overrated:
Jason Sehorn, Jesse Armstead, Kurt Warner, Lamar Smith, Vinny Testaverde, Warrick Dunn(sure he's good but not as good as his contract would indicate), Michael Vick(will be a very good QB, just not right now)

Underrated:
Curtis Martin, Corey Dillon, Jamal Lewis, Rod Smith (4th best WR in the league), Ricky Proehl, Shaun Alexander, Steve Beurline

[marshmallow12]

The question was most over and underrated players in the league. NOT YOUR FAVORITES! All you guys saying Marshall Faulk is overrated are WAY off. He is the best offensive player in the league, WHETHER YOU LIKE HIM OR NOT. I don't like him or Strahan. But I would never call them overrated. They desrve all the hype they get. The rams O-line is not overrated, they are one of the best in the leauge. And that guy who say the whole rams team was overrated, give me a break. I'M NOT A RAMS FAN AT ALL, but I'm smarter than to say that they are overrated.

I also don't think Vick is overrated, he has the oppurtunity to use his talent and become the best QB in the league (yes, even on the falcons).

I think David Carr is slightly overrated. If I were starting a new franchise, I would take Joey Harrington over Carr anyday. In fact, I would probably take Julius Peppers over Carr as well. Maybe they he think he has more potential or somethin...cause I see Harrington making a much bigger impact than Carr.

[Bucamaniac40]

Would it be possible for everyone to chip in and get this idiot some spelling lessons!Please learn the english language before you give the real Bucs fans a reputation of deminished intelligence!GO BUCS!

[Bucamaniac40]

Originally posted by the pimp
aney that think's that the sticky sapp and Brad and keeshawn johnson are overrated is a ignoramus Can the rest of us take up a collection and get this idiot some spelling lessons?Please learn the english language before you give the real Bucs fans a reputation ! GO BUCS!

[skinny]

Originally posted by Bucamaniac40
deminished

Um...

[TheCook'nPitt]

Originally posted by KJ4Life
overrated: kurt warner

he throws alot of interceptions, and he is the main reason the rams had 44 turnovers last year. given he has an amazing arm, look at the guys around him. marshall, isaac, torry...... it's way too hard NOT to throw alot of TD's!

underrated: corey dillon

he is the best RB in the league with exception to marshall faulk. he can run the ball better than most backs, and has alot of heart. i think he will have a breakout season this year, and will help those bungles reach the playoffs.

Absolutely the two people I was thinking of. I've always liked Dillon and he never gets the media coverage or hype that he deserves.

As far as Warner, he's awesome. He truly is. BUT, is he as good as everyone talks him up to be? NO WAY! Media people talk Warner up as if he is the second son of God, I mean c'mon there's no way...Jesus' brother would have married some one good looking, not that dawg... DUH!

[PewterPower]

Originally posted by skinny


Um...

heh heh....

[Ms Mell Buc Fan]

Most over rated ... Kurt Warner wouldn't hurt my feeling a bit to not see him play BORING!

Underrated .... Not sure lets see how preseason goes!

[THUD AND BLUNDER]

Originally posted by Bucamaniac40
MOST OVERATED WARREN SAPP BY FAR

Are you still spouting this rubbish??? :rolleyes:

[THUD AND BLUNDER]

Originally posted by pigeonthebucfan
Bucs
Overrated: Warren Sapp, Keyshawn Johnson

Have you EVER actually watched a game?? :rolleyes:

[mckegger]

Originally posted by the#1bucfanman
Over-Rated Bucamaniac, Mckegger and all who think Sapp is overrated go back to greenbay ok you band wagon Buc Fans stink
Under-Rated Trent Dilfer, Mike Allstott:D

Did you actually read anything I wrote? I have been a Bucs fan since they were orange and white, before Sapp ever played there, and I will be long after he retires. I think Sapp is good, but he is not a Derrick Brooks is or what Hardy Nickerson was to that defense. I do not have anything against him personally, but he hasn't backed up his mouth or his salary. I hope he proves me wrong, breaks the sack record, and leads the defense the way that he can but doesn't. I am definitely not a bandwagon Bucs fan, and I have always hated Green Bay. AND TO EVERYONE WHO THINKS DILFER IS OVERRATED??? HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RAVENS SUPERBOWL WIN. He played the same way there as he did here: one great pass and then one pass not even in the same zipcode as the receiver. I think he completed 50% of his passes in the Super Bowl.

I will agree with Allstott being underrated. It is hard to play to your potential when everyone in the country knows when you will be getting the ball. Hopefully Gruden will mix it up, so Allstott can be allowed show his true skills.

[skinny]

Originally posted by skinny
Underrated - Neil O'Donnell looked pretty good in the pocket last year in Philly when McNabb was out. Or so I thought. Nobody else said anything.


I noticed I was an idiot before you guys did.

Should read "last year in wherever they play in Tennessee when McNair was out"

[#97]

Overrated:
Randy Moss, Ravens D

Underrated:
A-Train, Emmit Smith

[Buccs99]

overrated: Warrick Dunn...paying him 28 mill. is too much for a guy that is unconsistant..had a big year at the end of 2000 but had injuries last year..inconsistant in 99 but had a good year his rookie year, and decent in 98...i think that shows inconsistant..







Underrated:Dillon and T.K.O. Spikes...dillon broke the single game rushing record under the sorriest line at the time...puts up high consistant numbers..the guy is unbelievable...takeo spikes..probably THE best LB in the game if you watch him..the guy does everything right..

[Buccs99]

hey...where did that face come from in there??:confused:

[TBKey1047]

The most overrated person is Kurt Warner anyone could do great things if they had marshall faulk bruce torry holt and everyone in his arsenal

Now the most underrated is shaun king He took the bucs to the NCF championship game he has wonderful running abilities he makes bad plays good ex. early in the playoffs when they got to the championship there was one play where he took the ball and got heavy attacks from the defense he dodged about 5 or 6 takles ran all over the back field and then throws it for about a 15 yard play he will be the only qb who will win us a ring him or hamilton sure brad johnson has the stats but he dosnt win

[BucINT20]

Originally posted by Buccs99
hey...where did that face come from in there??:confused:

the text code for that big toothy smiley is a ":" followed by a "D"

it's happened to a coupld people in this thread, since so many people agree about the
Underrated: Dillon

while not putting a space in there...confusing at first, than amusing, and then just as annoying as as the asterisks the board automatically puts in when talking about guys like **** butkus or **** vermeil. or **** jauron for that matter. and eric ****erson.

[jumps38]

here is my take:

Overrated: Warrick Dunn, Atlanta will find out they paid to much for a mediocre back with alot of east west moves and not enough north south movement. Average will still be below Alstotts even with more carries.


Underrated: Kenyatta Walker, excellent OL coming out of Florida where he played RT, Bucs tried to switch him to LT and it failed. Putting him back on RT (natural position) he will flurish.



Go BUCS
:cool:

[bucknife]

overraited- just my opinion, A-Train i know many people will not agree but i just dont think he is all he is cracked up to be. Maby i just cant forget all those heart breaking fumbles.

underraited- mark royals :) j/k

[Wilby]

Overrated:

Kurt Warner

Underrated:

Every offensive lineman in the NFL. These guys are the most important part of the team and never seem to get the recognition they deserve.

[AmbroseSkyPatro]

Overrated- Curtis Martin( he always has more carries than any player in the NFL and never leds in rushing)

Underrated- Keith Brooking(just straight up the man, 156 tackles speaks for itself)(and so doe sa pro bowl appearance)



I cant beleive yall say Mashall Faulk is overrated, he is always a top rusker and only gets like 15 carries a game(by far the best player in the NFL)


Yall also say Ray Lewis is over rated(He had 199 tackles last year, hes the best LB ever to me, He needs more props)

[skinny]

Originally posted by Wilby
Every offensive lineman in the NFL. These guys are the most important part of the team and never seem to get the recognition they deserve.

They do here. We know.

[TazDevil98]

Rob had his moments, but it looks like the same ole stuff to me.

[RBarberFan20]

Overrated: Kevin Carter, Jevon Kearse, Derrick Alexander.
Underrated: Anthony Henry, Jermaine Phillips, Chris Chambers, Nate Webster, Shaun Alexander.

I'll have plenty more coming...

Luke

[BBB]

Originally posted by bocaj205
Overrated: Marshall Faulk, Randy Moss, Steve Spurrier, Rams Defense, Daunte Culpepper, Michael Vick, Brian Griese(Overpaid)


Underrated: Shaun Alexander, The Bucs, Antwoain Smith,

Sure do not know where you got your list from. It may be from your mind but it surely is not based on production.

[gipctech]

Most overrated:
The entire RAMS roster...(including their coach Mike Fartz),
Michelle Strahan, Trent Dilfer... I have never seen anyone put so much effort into throwing an interception while in mid air about 5 yards out of bounds like he did before my very own eyes in TampaBay and please do not tell me he really had anything to do with the Ravens winning the Superbowl...I could have quarterbacked that team to a championship title, Tom Brady...same situation as Dilfer, Jason Sehorn, Mark Brunell..with talent like Jimmy Smith, Keenan, Fred Taylor in your offense how could you not win a Superbowl.. I'm glad Keenan's here maybe now he can win the Superbowl he deserves, Jake Plummer...please is this guy ever going to live up to expectations, Brian Griese..you are not your father it's ok, Jamal Anderson, Antonio Freeman, David Carr, Joey Galloway,Wayne Chrebet...please when there was 10 guys covering Keyshawn when he was there how could you not put up good numbers, Michael Vick, Terry Glenn!!!!!!:D

Most underrated:
(the reason why these individuals are in this category is because they will never be able to be praised enough for what they have done for their teams and NFL fans they are the very reason I watch football)
Warren Sapp, Monte Kiffin, and all the BUCS!!!!, Barry Sanders, Garrison Hearst, Jimmy Smith, Shannon Sharpe, Ray Lewis, Drew Bledsoe, Emmitt Smith, Jason Taylor, Corey Dillon, Bubba Franks, David Boston, Walter Payton, Greg Lloyd, Junior Seau, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, John Elway, Vinny Testaverde, Michael Irvin, Rod Smith, Troy Aikman, Howie Long, Terry Bradshaw, Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Bruce Mathews, Doug Flutie, Ronnie Lott, Sam Madison, Sterling Sharpe, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Edgerrin James, Randy Moss, Tony Gonzalez,... well that's enough for now you get the point!! :D

GO BUCS!!
GO MIAMI HURRICANES!!!!

[canukbuc]

Originally posted by skinny


I noticed I was an idiot before you guys did.

Should read "last year in wherever they play in Tennessee when McNair was out"

Actually I was thinking you were an idiot by saying O'Donnel looked good! Are you serious? I didn't see the game so I'll take your word for it, but I'm surprised.:o ... I guess that's why they call it "underrated", huh?

[canukbuc]

Overrated:
Randy Moss

Underrated:
Doug Flutie

[saeesq]

Underrated rookie: Randle-El of the Steelers. Looks awesome so far.

[skinny]

Originally posted by canukbuc


Actually I was thinking you were an idiot by saying O'Donnel looked good! Are you serious? I didn't see the game so I'll take your word for it, but I'm surprised.:o ... I guess that's why they call it "underrated", huh?

Hey, I just based that wild guess on seeing him play for a series or two last year, can't even remember which one. He stayed in the pocket and threw bullets. I don't know the whole story.

[Frenzy Bucs 47]

overrated- Kurt Warner

Underrated- Jervon Kearse

[Elite D-lineman]

Originally posted by Pittman #1 RB
overater: ray lewis and brian urlacher they are only so good because of them Huge DT

underated:cory dillion any one who breaks a walter payton record is great (most rushing yards in one game) and eric moulds maybe he will shine this year will DB

I agree about Lewis but Urlacher is simply the best MLB in this league. Remember in his rookie year, he played behind Mike Wells and Jim Flanigan and still lead his team in tackles, sacks and interceptions.

Nw let's get to this topic.

overrated: DBs:Aeneas Williams, they say he's the best corner in the league but he can't cover like Charles Woodson, Champ Bailey or Chris McAlister. Also, Rod Woodson figures to be here. He makes the Pro Bowl every year but why? Because of what he used to be? Sorry TB residents but I couldn't care less about Barber's 10 ints. He can't cover man to man, that's bad. Ryan McNeil of SD is also not very good.
Underrated: Antoine Winfield of Buffalo lead Bills in tackles last year, not bad for a CB. Jax's Fernando Bryant is the best player in a horrible secondary. And GB's Mike McKenzie doesn,t get much recognition for the recivers he blankets.

LBs: The Ravens duo of Lewis and Boulware is a huge overrating. We'll see if Lewis is so good playing the 3-4 with guards in his face. And Boulware is a DE, he can't cover (good pass rusher, though). Zach Thomas is a full effort player and has a great fighting spirit, but he's small and wearing down. He's not the player he was 2 years ago and will struggle more every year. I don't care what people say; Junior Seau is by far the NFL's most overrated linebacker, he is old and misses as many plays as he makes.

Underrated: If you're a Bengal, you're meant to be underrated. Tell that to Takeo Spikes and Brian Simmons, who respectively should've made the Pro Bowl instead of Seau and Lewis. Also, Buffalo's Keith Newman is a great all-around LB.

DL: Overrated: Leonard Little, yes he's a pass rusher but will be laughable as a full time starter this year. John Parrella of Oakland is a good stay home DT, but not worth 24 mil plus all the hype. Simeon Rice had a good season last year but I'll only be a believer after an encore.

Underrated: Oliver gibson of Cincinnati is a workhorse and a big reason for Justin Smith's great rookie year. In Atlanta, while Patrick Kerney got 12.5 sacks, Brady Smith was playing very well on the other side. NYJ's Steve White was terrific FA value, Bucs made a mistake letting him go.

OL: Overrated: Baltimore's Ogden and St. Louis's Pace get burned by speed rushers much more often than "experts" seem to see. Same thing for Philly's Runyan

Underrated: Jon Jansen of Washington. The best RT in the league should've made the Pro Bowl last year. Todd Wade is the Standout on the Dolphins crappy O-line. And Philly's Tra Thomas is quietly becoming one of the league's top LTs.

WR: overrated: My god, Keyshawn's the cream of the crop. Slow, lazy and not at al dedicated. Baltimore's Travis Taylor has yet to justify 2000's 10th overall pick. Cincinnati's Michael westbrook. The Bengals let go steady Darnay Scott to nab this oft-injured attitude problem. This section deserves a bonus candidate and that would be Pittsburgh's Plaxico Burress. He had great stats last year but drops a sh*tload of balls.

Underrated: Mushin Muhammad of Carolina. Has done a great job of making fans forget about Rae Carruth. NE's Troy Brown topped th 100 receptions with a weak supporting cast. Pittsburgh's Hines Ward was the best wideout in Pittsburgh last year.

RB: Overrated: The Dolphins Ricky Williams is a bruising back who posted 1,245 yards last year but only 3 30 or more yard gains in 3 years in NO. Jerome Bettis of Pitt is a fullback for any other team. Overshadows the great play of his O-line. Atlanta's Warrick Dunn is just too small to be an every-down back.

Underrated: The Bucs Michael Pittman tops this list. He deserves true recognition. Tiki Barber doesn't get enough credit for carrying the entire Giants offense on his shoulders. With Ron Dayne primed to be a huge bust, he'll have to do it a few more years. Antowain Smith of NE was the reason why Tom Brady could make the offense function.

QB: Overrated: Kurt Warner. System and supporting cast get him more credit than he deserves. Peyton Manning. See Kurt Warner. Trent Dilfer. Mike Holmgren should remember what Dilfer was in Tampa. Bonus: Tom Brady. How about seeing junior do it again before jumping to conclusions?Bonus2: Kordell Stewart. One year wonder with whom Steelers will never win a Super Bowl.

Underrated: Mark Brunell. Just playing behind the line he had last year deserved a Pro Bowl appearance more than Gannon or Brady. Jeff Blake. Somebody explain to me why he was Aaron Brooks' backup last year. Carolina's Weinke is mature enough to forget about tough rookie year.