Gaines Adams Nearing Deal with Bucs?

[MarleyMon81]

July 22, 2007

Adams nears deal with Bucs

Here's the latest on first-round pick Gaines Adams: first the Bucs have to pay him, then they can decide where to play him.

The Clemson defensive end may be nearing an agreement with the Bucs.

General manager Bruce Allen met with Adam's agent, Fletcher Smith, at Fleming's Steakhouse Saturday night, six days before players report to training camp in Orlando.

The two sides exchanged proposals and were close enough for Smith to come to town in hopes of finalizing a deal in the next few days.

Earlier Saturday, Allen completed the signings of all the Bucs' second day draft picks by announcing an agreement on a contract with Alabama running back Kenneth Darby, a seventh-round pick.

An agreement with Adams could go a long way toward getting all the Bucs' draft picks into camp on time, since his deal will account for most of the rookie salary pool.

Also unsigned are two second-round picks -- Tennesee guard Arron Sears and Oregon State safety Sabby Piscitelli - and linebacker Quincy Black, a third-rounder from New Mexico.

Adams, the No. 4 overall pick, is expected to compete at right defensive end with veteran Simeon Rice, who missed the final eight games after undergoing shoulder surgery.

At the very least, Adams will be used on passing downs, much the way the Bears utilized rookie Mark Anderson last season.

The Bucs have a good history of getting rookies into camp on time. The last rookie to hold out was defensive tackle Anthony McFarland in 1999, but he reported to camp just a few days late.

http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/

I didn't peg Adams as a hold out but you never know when your dealing with top 4 picks. If Adams signs it will be interesting as the other top 3 apparently aren't close to much on their contracts. Hopefully he gets done soon and the rest of Day 1 gets taken care of in advance of reporting day later next week.

Any rook needs to be in camp on time to start that steep learning process but particularly 1st rounders and high 1st rounders in particular since alot is being expected of them considering draft status and salary. It will be interesting to watch Gaines once the pads go on and the pre season games start.

[#20rules]

Well best of luck to Allen to get this done. Thats all you can say at this point I guess....

[55dbrooks55]

This is very good news. I'm not too worried about it because I believe he will sign soon. With camp just around the corner however, and with many of the top picks seemingly not close to contract agreements, it does make one a little tense.

[MarleyMon81]

Originally Posted by 55dbrooks55

With camp just around the corner however, and with many of the top picks seemingly not close to contract agreements, it does make one a little tense.

Only 2 of the 32 1st rounders are signed. Those two, Olson and Staley, were picked in the 20's.

[55dbrooks55]

Originally Posted by MarleyMon81

Only 2 of the 32 1st rounders are signed. Those two, Olson and Staley, were picked in the 20's.

Yeah. I also got word from one of my friends in Cleveland that Joe Thomas has mentioned that the Browns are no where near close to meeting his demands. I'm not too sure how reliable the source is as he doesn't like the Browns at all, so I'll wait to hear from one of the Cleveland fans here.

[Cadillac Kid 22]

Great news.....i hope we get it done soon

[Monty'sCircus]

Great news! Thanks again Marley!

I'm predjudiced as hell on this pick. Homer big time as may be said, but, anyhow, go Allen, go Gaines, go Tigers

[Psykes]

I congratulate Bruce if at this point in time, we're even close!

[Monty'sCircus]

Originally Posted by BucFanTom1

I'm predjudiced as hell on this pick. Homer big time as may be said, but, anyhow, go Allen, go Gaines, go Tigers

Any new news on how he looked in mini camps?

The only bit of information I was able to find was a blog by Roy Cummings, saying that Gaines wasn't ready to play.

[Corsair]

Wow, if Gaines signs as the first of the top 5, hell top 10... then Allen deserves some serious praise.

[Take Five]

One doesn't have to go back that far to remember that Mario Williams, the 1st pick overall in last year's draft was signed before he even got picked as the number 1 pick by the Houston Texans lending credence to the opinion that defensive players don't hold out like offensive draftees do. Good News for the Bucs. Let's get Adams inked to a deal and hit the ground running in TC!!!

[TBFreak2002]

yeah, anyone have anything substantial at all regarding Adams' offseason progress?

[DKWEST]

just a little ink on some paper

The Bucs have been good at having picks signed and in camp on time.

5 days until they show up for camp

[h-town baller]

Lets get this guy in camp, hopefully this guy will be worth the 4th overall pick.

[repeatSB37]

Originally Posted by MarleyMon81

http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/

I didn't peg Adams as a hold out but you never know when your dealing with top 4 picks. If Adams signs it will be interesting as the other top 3 apparently aren't close to much on their contracts. Hopefully he gets done soon and the rest of Day 1 gets taken care of in advance of reporting day later next week.

Any rook needs to be in camp on time to start that steep learning process but particularly 1st rounders and high 1st rounders in particular since alot is being expected of them considering draft status and salary. It will be interesting to watch Gaines once the pads go on and the pre season games start.

I know this is a little off topic, but I would hate to see Adams on the field only on passing downs like Anderson for the bears. I dont see any reason why the bucs cant have Adams and Rice at both DE position. It worked well enough for the bears and the Colts with Ougenelly (sp?) and Brown, and Freeney and Mathis respectively. With the bucs one gap system playing the run it should not affect the D lines ability to play the run all that much if any.

Originally Posted by repeatSB37

I know this is a little off topic, but I would hate to see Adams on the field only on passing downs like Anderson for the bears. I dont see any reason why the bucs cant have Adams and Rice at both DE position. It worked well enough for the bears and the Colts with Ougenelly (sp?) and Brown, and Freeney and Mathis respectively. With the bucs one gap system playing the run it should not affect the D lines ability to play the run all that much if any.

Nece on Access the other day as much as said that both Simeon and Gaines would be playing at opposite ends at the same time. In what capacity and how often Iwon't speculate, nor did he

[paco74]

Originally Posted by Corsair

Wow, if Gaines signs as the first of the top 5, hell top 10... then Allen deserves some serious praise.

This is exactly why I feel that Allen's services should be retained long after Gruden is shown the door. I'm hoping for our SB winning head coach to find his groove again, but if not, definitely keep Allen.

[Buccs99]

As I said the other day.


2nd round picks will be signed by wednesday, Gaines will be following. So probably the day before.

[maryjanewatson]

Originally Posted by BucFanTom1

Nece on Access the other day as much as said that both Simeon and Gaines would be playing at opposite ends at the same time. In what capacity and how often Iwon't speculate, nor did he

Hopefully only on passing downs. Long passing downs.

[Q-man]

any updates on getting Gaines Adams signed?

Originally Posted by maryjanewatson

Hopefully only on passing downs. Long passing downs.

In other words, other then passing downs, Gaines is incapable of taking Spires Position?

[BearLandBucFan]

Originally Posted by BucFanTom1

In other words, other then passing downs, Gaines is incapable of taking Spires Position?

let's face it that he was drafted mainly to eventually replace Rice...

it's very hard to "learn" anything at this point that is based on instinct... despite what Kiffin stated in his Press Conference.... possible to "learn" how to defend the run... sure... probable? the odds tend to say no....

part of the problem with being a "pure" pass rusher is the player is tuned in on 1-man, the QB... it takes discipline, ability to adjust, and ability to read the play to do both...

I am not saying Gaines can't... but I can tell you what is being preached, studied and honed right now is his ability to adjust to NFL OTs, pressuring the QB, and snap counts

Originally Posted by BearLandBucFan

let's face it that he was drafted mainly to eventually replace Rice...

it's very hard to "learn" anything at this point that is based on instinct... despite what Kiffin stated in his Press Conference.... possible to "learn" how to defend the run... sure... probable? the odds tend to say no....

part of the problem with being a "pure" pass rusher is the player is tuned in on 1-man, the QB... it takes discipline, ability to adjust, and ability to read the play to do both...

I am not saying Gaines can't... but I can tell you what is being preached, studied and honed right now is his ability to adjust to NFL OTs, pressuring the QB, and snap counts

Let's face it. It was Nece, who made the statement, in reference to Gaines. Personally, his opinion far out weighs the opinions on here

[BearLandBucFan]

Originally Posted by BucFanTom1

Let's face it. It was Nece, who made the statement, in reference to Gaines. Personally, his opinion far out weighs the opinions on here

his opinion was that they had plays designed to have both of them on the field at the same time...


which I am sure they do.... come the third or fourth time someone burns that defense.. trust me... it won't be implemented much further

Originally Posted by BearLandBucFan

his opinion was that they had plays designed to have both of them on the field at the same time...


which I am sure they do.... come the third or fourth time someone burns that defense.. trust me... it won't be implemented much further

His Statement in Reference to Gaines was, And I Paraphrase, "I Love the potential pressure from both sides"

As an insider, whom is about to lose his Job, I take it for it's worth

[BearLandBucFan]

Originally Posted by BucFanTom1

His Statement in Reference to Gaines was, And I Paraphrase, "I Love the potential pressure from both sides"

As an insider, whom is about to lose his Job, I take it for it's worth

true... the key is potential...

the problem is the audible.... if it starts failing... look for several teams to audible to a runor screen

Originally Posted by BearLandBucFan

true... the key is potential...

the problem is the audible.... if it starts failing... look for several teams to audible to a runor screen

Not the point. Which side is he gonna play on this year. Nece made a statement that was the opposite of that reported by the media

[Cadillac Kid 22]

Another one down....

PFT:

BOLTS BAG DAVIS

Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports that the San Diego Chargers have reached an agreement with draft pick Craig Davis, one of two LSU pass-catchers who were selected in the first round.

Davis was the 30th overall choice in the draft. He joins the No. 31 pick (Bears tight end Greg Olsen) and the No. 28 pick (49ers tackle Joe Staley) as guys who have signed at the bottom of the round. The other first-rounder under contract is Steelers linebacker Lawrence Timmons, the 15th overall pick.

Coincidentally, Davis is represented by Joel Segal, who represents Mike Vick, whom Len has been subtly defending over the past several weeks.

[repeatSB37]

Originally Posted by BearLandBucFan

true... the key is potential...

the problem is the audible.... if it starts failing... look for several teams to audible to a runor screen

You are not the first person to say that and I still disagree. In the bucs one gap run responsibilty they could very well play Adams and Rice at the same time on most downs. I look at teams like the bears and the Colts who played the run well enough (after B.Sanders came back for the Colts). They both have what is considered a "pure pass rusher" at both DE positions.