Drew Weatherford

[Frenzy Bucs 47]

I think he will be better than last year. The only thing he need to work on his passing accurate. I foreseen that he will be the best Qb that FSU ever had since Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke. This time he will beat the Gators at Doak Campbell Stadium where the Gators only won once since 1986

11-1 including ACC championship. That's my prediction.

I'm going to miami/fsu and uf/fsu games. Anyone going ?

thought ?

[deltbucs]

It's tought to tell how good/bad Weatherford will be. I think that he did ok last year for a first year starter with NO blocking and NO running game(also due to lack of blocking). If he can get some time in the pocket, he may be the first very solid QB we've hand in Tally since Weinke.

I think he will be a great quarterback, but I'm not so sure about him beating UF this year.

[Ruger7mmmag]

I'm surprised someone hasn't shown up screaming about starting X. Lee...

[Sparky Monroe]

I like Drew and I think he's the best guy to lead FSU. I just don't think that 11-1 is realistic this year. I hope that I am wrong.

As for Drew, yes he played well for a freshman quarterback, but remember Chris Rix was ACC Rookie of the Year his freshman year as well. Rix never really developed beyond that. Hopefully, that was mostly his fault and not the coaching staff. Let's see how they do with Weatherford's development.

[Ruger7mmmag]

If they are 11-1, Lorenzo Booker is probably going to be up for the Heisman. That's the kind of production it'll take for them to go 11-1 bc the defense isn't going to be as good as last year as they are reloading, but reloading with some pretty young guys. Plus, the guys they lost over the offseason are role players they really could use...

[Sparky Monroe]

Originally Posted by Ruger7mmmag

If they are 11-1, Lorenzo Booker is probably going to be up for the Heisman. That's the kind of production it'll take for them to go 11-1 bc the defense isn't going to be as good as last year as they are reloading, but reloading with some pretty young guys. Plus, the guys they lost over the offseason are role players they really could use...

I think Booker is capable of being a Heisman candidate. Washington is gone, and although there are some very talented young players in FSU's backfield, it is essentially Booker's show. He's got the talent, we'll see if he can pull it all together. A lot of it will have to do with the O-line and playcalling; I think both will be improved. I still don't see 11-1, but I think FSU will be better on offense this year.

Your right about the defense, there may be some growing pains early in the year, but I think by mid-season they'll turn out to be pretty good - maybe not up to last year's standards, but solid.

[Ruger7mmmag]

Originally Posted by Sparky Monroe

I think Booker is capable of being a Heisman candidate. Washington is gone, and although there are some very talented young players in FSU's backfield, it is essentially Booker's show. He's got the talent, we'll see if he can pull it all together. A lot of it will have to do with the O-line and playcalling; I think both will be improved. I still don't see 11-1, but I think FSU will be better on offense this year.

Your right about the defense, there may be some growing pains early in the year, but I think by mid-season they'll turn out to be pretty good - maybe not up to last year's standards, but solid.

I agree with you. They'll have a good team but the ACC combined with their nonconference games make it hard to go 11-1 ANY year, let alone a year in which your defense is "green" and you still let Jeff call the plays.

[deltbucs]

There are 2 things that need to happen to get the FSU's offense back to the level that it is capable of playing at. #1 we need the Oline to stay healthy that actually block. They made the Bucs Oline look like probowlers last year.
And #2

[Sparky Monroe]

Originally Posted by deltbucs

There are 2 things that need to happen to get the FSU's offense back to the level that it is capable of playing at. #1 we need the Oline to stay healthy that actually block. They made the Bucs Oline look like probowlers last year.
And #2

It is frustrating that Jeff is still around. When I first heard that Jeff would be made OC after Richt left for Georgia, I was pleased. Who better than a Bowden to run FSU's offense. Sadly, Jeff just hasn't produced consistently. Bobby won't allow him to be fired - and I'm not ready to see Bobby retire over his son. Our best hope is that Jeff does well enough this year that a small school gives him a chance as a head coach. That way, he moves on for a "better opportunity" and FSU can find a good OC that can be held accountable for the success or failure of the offense.

[Ruger7mmmag]

If he couldn't do better than the stats on that website with the phenoms he had playing on those teams not too mention all the short fields those offenses were working with as a result of a defense putting people 3 and out religiously along with grabbing TOs like no tomorrow, then I don't think things will DRASTICALLY improve so much in one season someone would want him as an HC. I agree with you though, FSU's only chance would be for that too happen, but i'm afraid FSU is stuck with him for as long as Bobby is there. Want to see something scary? Bobby retires and they leave the program to Jeff to continue the Bowden legacy!

My dad would probably die!

[Sparky Monroe]

Originally Posted by Ruger7mmmag

If he couldn't do better than the stats on that website with the phenoms he had playing on those teams not too mention all the short fields those offenses were working with as a result of a defense putting people 3 and out religiously along with grabbing TOs like no tomorrow, then I don't think things will DRASTICALLY improve so much in one season someone would want him as an HC. I agree with you though, FSU's only chance would be for that too happen, but i'm afraid FSU is stuck with him for as long as Bobby is there. Want to see something scary? Bobby retires and they leave the program to Jeff to continue the Bowden legacy!

My dad would probably die!

That's a frightening scenario and one that I've long though Bobby has hoped for. I know the alumni and boosters would go insane if that happened and I'm positive that Dave Hart has more sense than that - well, not positive, but I'm really hoping.

[Ruger7mmmag]

Originally Posted by Sparky Monroe

That's a frightening scenario and one that I've long though Bobby has hoped for. I know the alumni and boosters would go insane if that happened and I'm positive that Dave Hart has more sense than that - well, not positive, but I'm really hoping.

You know how they'll pull it off don't you? Bobby will step aside (health) in the middle of a season, Jeff will take over as HC and he'll keep the OC job bc it will be too late to bring someone good in. Then at the end of the season, Bobby will retire, Jeff will take HC and they'll bring in a sharp OC from somewhere the fans will be excited about. Bc if his hands are off the offense, then the admin will reason that's enough and will want to keep a Bowden there. The funny thing is though, instead of bringing in a sharp OC, they'll probably bring in Terry.

[Chirodoc]

All Drew Weatherford has to work on is accuracy ? Well that statement certainly deflated your post. Typical FSU home of the Criminoles statement

Originally Posted by Chirodoc

All Drew Weatherford has to work on is accuracy ? Well that statement certainly deflated your post. Typical FSU home of the Criminoles statement

Agreed.

Also, I don't see 11-1 either because it will only take 7 wins to take their side of the ACC. After that, they'll go on cruise control just like last year.

[Frenzy Bucs 47]

Originally Posted by josue de la

Agreed.

Also, I don't see 11-1 either because it will only take 7 wins to take their side of the ACC. After that, they'll go on cruise control just like last year.

7 wins ?!?!?!? I doubt it.

but again we will see how the FSU's season turn out.

[Frenzy Bucs 47]

Originally Posted by Chirodoc

All Drew Weatherford has to work on is accuracy ? Well that statement certainly deflated your post. Typical FSU home of the Criminoles statement

typical gators or hurricanes fan reply.

[Chirodoc]

AJ Nicholson
Ernie Simms
Fred Rouse

I bet FSU fans are so proud

How come no is talking about Xavier Lee? He would havr gotten the starting job last fall if he hadnt injured his shoulder. Weatherford is just hype. Remember when Chris Rix had all the freshamn records? People said the same thing about him and he turned out to be a HUGE FLUKE! If Xavier Lee transfers or gets a chance to start for Florida Sate he will be MUCH better than Weatherford.

Originally Posted by Cadillac4MVP

Remember when Chris Rix had all the freshamn records? People said the same thing about him and he turned out to be a HUGE FLUKE!

Yeah, but Rix still appears in the nightmares of us here in Gainesville on occasion.

For any college QB, there's a time when promise has to become talent, and Lee hasn't shown that to me yet.

[mr.fusion]

Originally Posted by Ruger7mmmag

If he couldn't do better than the stats on that website with the phenoms he had playing on those teams not too mention all the short fields those offenses were working with as a result of a defense putting people 3 and out religiously along with grabbing TOs like no tomorrow, then I don't think things will DRASTICALLY improve so much in one season someone would want him as an HC. I agree with you though, FSU's only chance would be for that too happen, but i'm afraid FSU is stuck with him for as long as Bobby is there. Want to see something scary? Bobby retires and they leave the program to Jeff to continue the Bowden legacy!

My dad would probably die!

Theres no way that Jeff will become the next head coach, the boosters would NEVER allow it...Terry on the other hand would be more acceptable if thats the route they decided to go.....either way bobby will have a say in it, meaning you can rule out somebody like pat hill, or jim leavitt......doubtful mickey andrews becomes the head coach, personally i think it will be kevin steele, the current lb coach.........
As far as weatherford is concerned----
Personally i think hes gonna be a great one....he has the size, arm strength, leadership, mobility, and smarts....i think by mid season we will really see him begin to turn into something special....obviously he has to play much better than he did last year, but i just have this gut feeling about the kid.....

[Ruger7mmmag]

Originally Posted by Cadillac4MVP

How come no is talking about Xavier Lee?

1) Can't learn the plays.
2) Can't handle a snap.
3) Can't hit wide open WRs.

Other than that, he's great...

Originally Posted by Frenzy Bucs 47

11-1 including ACC championship. That's my prediction.

FSU 11-1 with the ACC championship and the Bucs are going 16-0 too right?

[Chirodoc]

FSU has not been the same since Mark Richt (sp?) left for Georgia

[Ruger7mmmag]

Originally Posted by Chirodoc

FSU has not been the same since Mark Richt (sp?) left for Georgia

No kidding. I'm actually surprised they can still recruit so many 4 and 5 star guys on offense when they know the offense they are going into is one of the worst in the country for getting you to the NFL bc it's so anemic. Who on offense from FSU has gone to the NFL recently?