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12-21-2006, 04:28 PM
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Rebuild/Reload. How the Bucs can go from worst to first in '07.
Someone else made a thread similar to this, but I forgot the name of it. I tried to go back and find it, but it’s tough to find a thread when you aren’t sure who made it or what it’s called. Anyway, I’m not sure anyone is even going to take the time to read this post, but here goes:
*Edit- feel free to scroll to whatever position you are most interested in to read and discuss that particular position. Enjoy. Love Muffins’ off season position by position plan for the Bucs. QB- I honestly can not for the life of me, understand how anyone can say they see something in Gradkowski but not Chris Simms. In 5 years Chris Simms will be a starting QB for some NFL team while Bruce will be out of the league and little more than an answer to a trivia question. In all likelyhood, Bruce will be back in the mix next season but I don't think he should be. Someone on this board once compared him to Drew Breez, but I think he's closer to Drew Henson. If I am making the moves, I make a Simms deal happen. He has to know that he isn't going to be guarenteed to start anywhere he goes, so I’d make him a decent but not spectacular offer to come back to a system that he is familiar with and compete for the starting job. Unfortunately, QB is the position that we are hurting the most. Simms and Rattay (sadly, the two best QBs we have) are both UFAs, which means the frightening possibility that Gradkowski and McKown are the only two QBs we have under contract come draft day. *shivers* If we can’t bring Simms back, I strongly consider Jamarcus Russsel if he comes out. Otherwise I’d have to make a trade with a team that has two NFL caliber QBs because the FA list is just too weak. Leftwich, Shaub and Matt Cassel (New England) are my primary trade targets, but Leftwich is top of the list for his experience. RB- There is no shortage of talent here, in my opinion. Caddy and Pittman could be as good a 1-2 punch as there is in the NFL if Gruden would make use of them. We got some talent hanging around to draw from if Alstott retires. Carey Davis, Ernest Graham and Derek Watson can all be hybrid RB/FB players while Sowell would remain a dedicated FB. WR- I don't think we're in too bad of shape here. How many years are left in the legs of Galloway and Hillard? One, maybe two. I’ve never seen ANYTHING in Warren to get excited about. I don’t think he stinks, he just doesn’t move me the way he does for some people. Still, we have youth at the position with Warren, Stovall, Gessner (that’s right the Chazwagon returns!) and Clayton who probably should get one more year. Also, I can’t help but think that Tampa hasn’t seen the end of David Boston, Edell Shepard and Larry Brackens. TE- We’ve got Alex Smith, Doug Jolly, Anthony Becht and TJ Williams. I wonder who’s going to get cut? The coaches seem to love Becht for his alleged ‘blocking’, Jolly could take over LS duties for Dave Moore and fans are going to be salivating over the idea of 2 TE sets featuring Smith and Williams. It is a strange, sad thing that Tight End is our greatest source of depth and it’s not likely we’ll keep all these guys. Then again, it’s not like Jonny has never kept 4 TEs on the roster before, so maybe there’s a sad little glimmer of hope after all. O-LINE- Ok, things may not be as bad as I’ve been thinking here. Trueblood, Joseph, Wade, Beunning and a real LT just might be able to….Oh who am I kidding? This squad needs help. And most of that help should come in the form of a new O-Line coach……. D-Line- Ellis Wyms has earned the right to start again next year, but complacency has been a problem for this team, and I wonder if he’ll still work as hard if he goes into the season as the #1 UT. I’d still draft an impact DT very early in this draft to come in and push for time. I’d be surprised to see Rice back next year so some decent money needs to be thrown White’s way to keep him around. Also, I would keep a close eye on Dwight Freeney, Justin Smith and Hollis Thomas. If the Colts, Bengals and Saints, respectively, let those players walk Bruce Allen would be derelict in his duties if he didn’t make a play for one of them. LB- I would have to, and I mean HAVE to talk to Derrick Brooks about a player/coach type role with the defense. He could run position practices and keep his foot on the butts of the other LBs, but he would have to split time with Winborn and Cash. Assuming, that is, that they make the squad again next year. Depending on how the FA signings go for QB, WR and DE, I would also take a look at the situations surrounding Lance Briggs and Adalius Thomas. I think the Ravens would cut Ray Lewis before they would let Thomas walk, but you never know. Other than that, Quarles is still my favorite Buccaneer that nobody else likes and Nece does the job he’s asked to do. Ruud is a great insurance policy at MLB and that also gives us some flexibility on the strong side as HOPEFULLY Quarles and Nece both being injured at the same time wouldn’t be a likely recurrence. DB- As I said in another thread, I wouldn’t be offended to see Brian Kelly and Phillip Buchanan as the starting CBs and Ronde as the new FS. Moving Ronde, who would never be juked out of his shorts by a fullback, to FS would give him more range and space to do what he does best and give the Bucs more security in the last line of defense. There are some interesting names floating around out there, but the one that intrigues me the most is Asante Samuel. We’ve all seen that the Pats don’t like to resign guys who may want top dollar and Samuel is a young CB who can cover man to man and can hit like a safety. I might also keep an eye on Cato June. If the Colts let he walk, I might give him a call to gauge his interest in playing SS. He’s listed at 6’0 227, but rumor has it he’s closer to 217, so I might think about that. Then I might slap myself across the face. After all, why pay big free agent money for missed tackles when you can get home grown missed tackles for dirt cheep? K/P- No worries. Bidwell and Bryant should do just fine for another couple years. Coaching: HC- This will (or at least SHOULD) be Jon Boy’s hot seat year. He will have a ton of cap space, young players who have been in the system a couple of years, and the 2007 draft will be his FOURTH STRAIGHT FULL DRAFT! So no more excuses about McKay’s cap, skimpy drafts and key injuries. Chose your team wisely JG. It may be your last one in Tampa. OC- We need one. If my name is Muffin Glazer…..  ....... I tell Coach Jonny, ‘I am hiring an OC. You are going to let HIM call the plays.’ It’s still Jon’s system, he still has final say on the scheme and game plan. But we need some fresh eyes and a fresh mind on this pathetic offensive (pun intended) situation. My top options for OC: A.) Chargers QB coach John Ramsdell. Before becoming the co-architect of Phillip Rivers break-out season, Coach Ramsdell served in the same capacity for the Rams from 1999-2002. You might recognize those years as only years that Kurt Warner was really any good. B.) Cal Bears head coach Jeff Tedford. If there is one thing you can say about Cal, their offense can score. Their 32 points per game is good for 14th in the nation. He also is all about balance. Last year Cal averaged 254 yards passing per game and 162 yards rushing per game. In 2004 Cal’s offense averaged over 250 yards rushing and 230 yards passing AND had the sixth highest scoring offense in the nation as well as the fourth best scoring defense. It’s only a matter of time before some bright VP of Football Operations calls Jeff up with a HC job. It would be nice to get him here in the fold just in case it turns out Jon Boy’s can stand the heat of the seat. DC- “Dear Lord, Hi. It’s Muffin. What’s up? I was just wondering if you could do me a tinsy winsy little favor. If it’s not too much to ask, could you possibly use your vast influence as Almighty Creator of the Universe to keep Monte happy, healthy and …..well……here? Thanks. I owe you one. Ok I guess I owe you several…….thousand.”  O-Line Coach- As I said earlier, we need one. Bill Muir needs to GOOOO. I recommend Keith Gilbertson, assistant O-Line coach for the Seattle Seahawks. Why? Because in the last three years, no RB has had more untouched, walk-in TDs than Shaun Alexander. Ok no RB not named LT2 has had as more untouched, walk-in TDs than Shaun Alexander Team Attitude- Defense wins championships. From 1999-2001 we had a top 5 defense and 0 losing seasons. In 2002, we had a decent offense and the #1 defense in the league. In 2005 we won the NFCS with a slightly below average offense and the #1 defense in the league. That is the formula we need. Shut down defense, aggressive run oriented offense would be great, but we'll have to take baby steps to get there. Solid Top 10 D, Average 12-17 ranked O. The most important thing on offense is passion. We need our O-Line to block with the same kind of fire that Carnell runs with. We need big physical WRs like Stovall and Clayton (please!!!!!!) who can not only make tough catches but lay knock down blocks on DBs down field. I think we need to start building a team that will be known around the league as a hard hitting, intimidating, physical team on all sides. I seriously hope someone takes the time to read this, because that was a lot of work! Read, enjoy, discuss. Last edited by LoveMuffin; 12-21-2006 at 04:31 PM.. 
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12-21-2006, 04:30 PM
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DAMN, Muff!
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12-21-2006, 04:32 PM
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12-21-2006, 04:35 PM
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12-21-2006, 04:39 PM
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I personally hope for a little bit more defensive turnover, particularly at S and DL. And above all else, a good QB.
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12-21-2006, 04:44 PM
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Very well thought out post Muff, I like!
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12-21-2006, 04:53 PM
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I only made it through offense. (Also see: A.D.D.) A couple things. I've said it once, I'll say it again. Stovall will be a PLAYER. Shepard is in Houston handling KR duties and playing some WR. I'm not sure what kind of contract he's on. I don't think the O-line really needs much changes. The pass protection hasn't been too bad and for the run blocking....well....We need some kind of passing attack to be able to open up some running lanes and keep the LBs and safteys off the line a little bit. And by passing attack I don't mean a 3-step drop and everyone runs 5 yard routes.
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12-21-2006, 04:58 PM
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12-21-2006, 04:58 PM
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Ok I did a much shorter, abridged version, Muff... lol
QBs - Simms, Grads, and McCown/Rattay will have to do for now. I am not enthralled by any rookie or free agent or trade enough to say THEY are the direction I want to build towards…. Unfortunately HB/FBs – Me just have to deal with what we got… maybe it will pan out or not…. We just have to deal with it as well…. WRs – Look down at either hand… see your fingers? Count them… that’s how many I think we need… realistically we can’t turn over that many… Ike… Stovall… you two get to stay… Calvin Johnson, and 2 others please TEs – It’s sad but we have to deal with what we have here as well… I would like to see Daniel Graham added though OL – If we can find a free agent or two to help depth and to spur competition that would be ideal. They don’t have to be the best… just gritty… K – God I’d love to get a kicker that I didn’t cross my fingers for…. But not worth it this year… P – We have one… Bidwell… our Offensive MVP DEs – I think we stick with Spires and White… we need to build a new defense… personally I think we should change schemes myself… this is the BEST off season to do it in and we will eventually need to make the change… DTs – Sign Holiday and draft the future in Tyler and Thomas… Keep Ellis… cut Hovan… this is one of the first of three building block areas we need to address on defense… OLBs – We stick with Brooks…. Unless we are ready to completely cut him loose NOW… MLB – Quarles and Ruud… I’d love to get Adalius Thomas but he won’t fit unless we change to a 3-4… CBs – Trade Kelly while he has decent value… look for a replacement… FS – Pearson for now draft/acquire a replacement SS – Aaron Rouse, enough said GM – Allen stays as he is a decent financial manager… I stress decent HC – you can’t change from the garbage we represent now without letting him go… we need a philosophy change the most in the off season OC – we need one… I don’t care who… just someone who can get something out of his offense without making excuses or showing up for only 1 quarter in a game DC – Monte – thank you so much for all you have done, but it’s time for you to move on as well as us…. It’s been 11 years… it’s time you spend the remainder of your years with your family…. You have done so much for us… but this is the off season we need to make the change… Coordinators – see the door? Good… walk through it please and good luck… Scouts – follow the train… have a nice day and grab a cookie before you leave…
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12-21-2006, 05:01 PM
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I don't see this team as a "reloading" team this offseason... in fact I think we'll need a couple of years to get back into real contention.
The QB position is an obvious question mark, as well as the o-line. I'm not sure we are as locked in the wide receiver depth as you make it seem, either. And to be honest, our D is NOT what it used to be and needs heavy rebuilding. Mentioning the coaching would be beating a dead horse.
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12-21-2006, 05:07 PM
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12-21-2006, 05:16 PM
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And with the 3rd overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select........
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12-21-2006, 07:00 PM
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WR- I don't think we're in too bad of shape here. How many years are left in the legs of Galloway and Hillard? One, maybe two. I’ve never seen ANYTHING in Warren to get excited about. I don’t think he stinks, he just doesn’t move me the way he does for some people. Still, we have youth at the position with Warren, Stovall, Gessner (that’s right the Chazwagon returns!) and Clayton who probably should get one more year. Also, I can’t help but think that Tampa hasn’t seen the end of David Boston, Edell Shepard and Larry Brackens. DB- As I said in another thread, I wouldn’t be offended to see Brian Kelly and Phillip Buchanan as the starting CBs and Ronde as the new FS. Moving Ronde, who would never be juked out of his shorts by a fullback, to FS would give him more range and space to do what he does best and give the Bucs more security in the last line of defense. There are some interesting names floating around out there, but the one that intrigues me the most is Asante Samuel. We’ve all seen that the Pats don’t like to resign guys who may want top dollar and Samuel is a young CB who can cover man to man and can hit like a safety. ] Tried to edit down your quote but it didn't work out so well I agree with your observations at reciever if Joey gives it another go. Without him we have a C- squad. Your DB observations are dead on. I think we should consider Clements. Last edited by What do I know?; 12-21-2006 at 07:03 PM.. Reason: oops
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12-21-2006, 07:17 PM
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Cassel? are you freaking kidding me?
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12-21-2006, 07:18 PM
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AND ALL THE BUC FANS START CHEERING
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12-21-2006, 07:18 PM
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new hc, new o-line coach, bring simms back for a year to see how he dose, oh pick up some sleeper picks in the draft.
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12-21-2006, 08:31 PM
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disagree with getting rid of Muir. He is THEY MAN, look what he has done with a bunch of low round draft picks, rookies, and a washed up center, firing Muir is just using him as a scape goat.
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12-21-2006, 08:52 PM
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12-21-2006, 09:06 PM
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Ronde is too small athletically to play FS he'd get eaten ALIVE mid-size to big CBs make good Safeties
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12-21-2006, 09:31 PM
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12-21-2006, 11:48 PM
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(Also see: A.D.D.) A couple things. I've said it once, I'll say it again. Stovall will be a PLAYER. Shepard is in Houston handling KR duties and playing some WR. I'm not sure what kind of contract he's on. I don't think the O-line really needs much changes. The pass protection hasn't been too bad and for the run blocking....well....We need some kind of passing attack to be able to open up some running lanes and keep the LBs and safteys off the line a little bit. And by passing attack I don't mean a 3-step drop and everyone runs 5 yard routes.
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