My Thoughts...

[Master inChief]

How in the hell can rookies be holding out for more money or a year less on their contract? How can these unproven players think they are god's gift to the football world without stepping foot on the very same gridiron that I love with passion and heart and would give anything to be in their place? I Honestly hope when the new collective bargaining agreement gets reached they put in a scale pay like the NBA has to pay rookies, because this is getting insane.

Jon Gruden in my eyes IS a good coach and I do believe in him, but he really needs to stop telling us lies, for everyday last week he would say Petigout would be ready the next day and the next day and he still isn't ready, wtf? Stop white washing everything and just tell us the truth.

Simeon Rice I will miss you. I will miss the sacks. I will miss the forced fumbles. I will miss the way you made me feel when you recorded 4 sacks against the Saints in the second game in 2002. I'll cherish the memories. But I will not miss your mouth. I will not miss a man talking about himself as he is the best defensive player to ever play the game and I will not miss a guy who was so bitter that he would talk bad about the organization that I love. Good luck with your future in the NFL, but please be a class act.

The time is gonna come soon and I will be saddened and upset by it. A great will leave this game, a great will no longer be able to make the plays he once could and no longer be in the elite of his class. Mr. Derrick Brooks, thank you for so many memories and thank you for so many great plays and thank you for sealing the Superbowl for us with you interception TD. Thank you for being a great person on and off the field and I hope that you will be on this team's coaching staff years to come. After 2007, we will all have to say goodbye and it will be a hard one.

The season is almost here and Im optimistic about this team just as any fan out there should be. Im hoping for the line to gel by the Seattle game and the running game to take off as it did in 2005, Im hoping for Garcia to be a good decision maker and our receivers to catch it. But if this team is gonna be succesful it starts with Jovan Haye, I know you are a unproven but you go out there and play your *** off. Play like tomorrow isn't gonna be there and play like they just stole your lunch.

GO TAMPABAY BUCCANEERS 2007!!!!!!!

[h-town baller]

I agree the nfl needs to adopt the nba rookie bargaining agreement. So it gives a chance for the rookie to prove his worth to the team. Plus if the rookie is a bust l that money you paid him won't come back to haunt your team. I think in 03 Lebron's rookie contract was 4 million a year then he earned a big pay day.

[Cobra Boy]

Great, great post, Master in Chief.

I salute you, sir.

The Browns save Quinns butt from free falling even further in the draft, and he holds out? You have to be kidding.........

[galloway123]

I hope Brooks can play another two years but I don't see it happening, Galloway may play on for a long time to set a standard. I could see Galloway at 37 years old still burning 23 year old corners that run 4.3s. Ronde will play on for another good 3 years because his position requires smarts and not speed. I just hope that Brooks and Galloway don't retire in the same year =(.

[buckhead]

Nice post but please stop listening to Dumb Dog and stop worrying about Petigout. He's a vet. He gets the game. Doesn't need tons of work. Needs to rest his body like every other seasoned vet. The trenches are brutal. Don't burn your vet lineman out in the first couple weeks of camp. They all get chronic ailments they just learn to play through. Davis and Sears will be just fine. Chill.........

[Master inChief]

Originally Posted by buckhead

Nice post but please stop listening to Dumb Dog and stop worrying about Petigout. He's a vet. He gets the game. Doesn't need tons of work. Needs to rest his body like every other seasoned vet. The trenches are brutal. Don't burn your vet lineman out in the first couple weeks of camp. They all get chronic ailments they just learn to play through. Davis and Sears will be just fine. Chill.........

Not so much that Im worried about Petigout, I just dont like that Gruden isn't being completely truthful about the whole matter. And thank you Cobra boy.

[JudgeDredd]

Originally Posted by NevadaBucFan

The Browns save Quinns butt from free falling even further in the draft, and he holds out? You have to be kidding.........

Free falling further? Browns lucked out being able to trade into the slot they did. One more pick he would've been a Chief for sure.

Luckily for the Browns no one between 11-21 needed a QB.

[NFLs_Future]

Originally Posted by Master inChief

The season is almost here and Im optimistic about this team just as any fan out there should be.

Amen to that.

[ATL-owns-TB]

I said this a while ago, but this is gonna be hard to argue with the cba. still, i'm sure they can agree to something where the 1st overall pick gets a prety solid contract. like 30 mil, 5 years, escalating a little every year for the first pick and so on.

[Master inChief]

Originally Posted by ATL-owns-TB

I said this a while ago, but this is gonna be hard to argue with the cba. still, i'm sure they can agree to something where the 1st overall pick gets a prety solid contract. like 30 mil, 5 years, escalating a little every year for the first pick and so on.

Honestly I think the first round pick should get 5 mil guaranteed and then 5 mil for 3 years. If he proves his worth, pay up. If he doesnt, then its not a big loss.

Every pick after the first pick should earn a $100,000.00 less until the 17th pick which they would earn $50,000.00 less then the 16th pick.

1st pick earns 20 mil in 3 years.
32nd pick earns 11.4 mil in 3 years.

The problem is with the agents - they are all afraid to have the only 1st rounder that signed a 6 instead of a 5 year deal and have that used against them in recruitment next time around. These are holdouts engineered by the agent because they're looking out for their own interests above their players'... I think Tom Condon has done an atrocious job with Quinn from day one.

A mandatory rookie salary system would help tremendously, but I don't know how the league would ever get the NFLPA (and the agents) to agree to it... They'd really have to have their nuts in a vice on some other CBA issue to win that one...

[buckhead]

Originally Posted by Master inChief

Not so much that Im worried about Petigout, I just dont like that Gruden isn't being completely truthful about the whole matter. And thank you Cobra boy.

Gruden will always put the best face on it. Look at the Simms picture. Be glad the Bucs didn't sign Steinbach to a huge deal. And are the Browns really being truthful??

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns


Until they make coaches go before a grand jury.....their media briefings aren't grounds for criminal prosecution!

Wonder how Tony's been doing in that department this year anyway ??

[paco74]

Originally Posted by h-town baller

I agree the nfl needs to adopt the nba rookie bargaining agreement. So it gives a chance for the rookie to prove his worth to the team. Plus if the rookie is a bust l that money you paid him won't come back to haunt your team. I think in 03 Lebron's rookie contract was 4 million a year then he earned a big pay day.

If this come to pass, we may players staying to finish their degrees before coming out. A bust draft pick could then fall back to a normal career instead of living off of signing bonuses (see Ryan Leaf).

[Cobra Boy]

Originally Posted by buckhead

Gruden will always put the best face on it. Look at the Simms picture. Be glad the Bucs didn't sign Steinbach to a huge deal. And are the Browns really being truthful??

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns


Until they make coaches go before a grand jury.....their media briefings aren't grounds for criminal prosecution!

Wonder how Tony's been doing in that department this year anyway ??

I've said it before: The game of the NFL includes a sub-game of Liars Poker.

Been that way forever. Gruden and Allen didn't create it. Heck, their dad's played it, too, back in The Day.

This should be no surprise to anyone.

[ATL-owns-TB]

Originally Posted by Master inChief

Honestly I think the first round pick should get 5 mil guaranteed and then 5 mil for 3 years. If he proves his worth, pay up. If he doesnt, then its not a big loss.

Every pick after the first pick should earn a $100,000.00 less until the 17th pick which they would earn $50,000.00 less then the 16th pick.

1st pick earns 20 mil in 3 years.
32nd pick earns 11.4 mil in 3 years.

yeah, but thats asking for alot. contracts in the nfl aren't guranteed. and with that system, loew level rookies, as in lower 1st round would be getting paid alot more than they do now.

[BearLandBucFan]

How many rookies didn't sign with their team their first season in all of history...

u are NEVER going to get the NFLPA to agree to this without a bigger concession... Guaranteed Contracts...


honestly... if it isn't broke... stop trying to fix it...

what do you and I care what they make?

there are more non-rookies in the NFL then aren't... if you honesty thought they felt the system was unfair wouldn't the NFLPA be requiring it?