Simms situation must be BAD

Originally Posted by acaton

Could be wrong here but I thought IR was for players that got injured at camp or playing the game, is that not correct?

You've never heard of a player that got hurt the previous year and going on the the Pup/IR the next?

Dig a little deeper

Does Brad Culpepper ring a Bell

[BFT]

Originally Posted by BronxBomber

At least Simms proved he can win big games.

No... He was the guy that was benched during a big game so Major Applewhite could take over.

He was losing the 'big game' at the college level. Please show me where he won 'the big game' in the NFL.

[BronxBomber]

Originally Posted by BucFanTexas

No... He was the guy that was benched during a big game so Major Applewhite could take over.

He was losing the 'big game' at the college level. Please show me where he won 'the big game' in the NFL.

What kind of statement are you trying to make?

That's why Applewhite is coaching college ball and Simms is an NFL QB?

You obvious must have some kind of hatred for Simms (or love for AppleWhite) ... to make yourself look so bad with such a poor reply.

[NoAlibi]

Originally Posted by BronxBomber

Call it what you want... At the end of the day, you either wait for him to get it back, or you don't. Either way he starts again somewhere.

Only way he starts somewhere else is if his dad pays the team.

Fine

Then you answer the Dumb Dumb statement

Originally Posted by acaton
Could be wrong here but I thought IR was for players that got injured at camp or playing the game, is that not correct?

Now conviently deleted

[acaton]

Originally Posted by BucFanTom1

You've never heard of a player that got hurt the previous year and going on the the Pup/IR the next?

Dig a little deeper

Does Brad Culpepper ring a Bell

PUP yes but not IR, that's why the question.

[BFT]

Originally Posted by BronxBomber

What kind of statement are you trying to make?

That's why Applewhite is coaching college ball and Simms is an NFL QB?

You obvious must have some kind of hatred for Simms (or love for AppleWhite) ... to make yourself look so bad with such a poor reply.

You said Simms won the big game, I showed you otherwise. Any more questions?

[BronxBomber]

Originally Posted by BucFanTexas

You said Simms won the big game, I showed you otherwise. Any more questions?

NICE TRY... unfortunately for you, your post is out there for everyone to see.

Who's running with the big boys now?

Does the pathetic playoff loss vs. the Skins in 05 count as a "big game"?

[BronxBomber]

Originally Posted by NoStatusQuo

Does the pathetic playoff loss vs. the Skins in 05 count as a "big game"?

Go look at the tapes.. you will see the gaming winning pass dropped in the end zone.

Do you consider the games leading up to playoffs important ? Do you remember the games that got them into the playoffs? or were they automatically given a spot at the beginning of the year?

Originally Posted by acaton

PUP yes but not IR, that's why the question.

If the question is not Valid, why the deletion?

Let's Play Games!

[TBayBuc#81]

Originally Posted by BucFanTom1

If the question is not Valid, why the deletion?

Let's Play Games!

Where did that Shaun King thread go?

Originally Posted by BronxBomber

Go look at the tapes.. you will see the gaming winning pass dropped in the end zone.

Do you consider the games leading up to playoffs important ? Do you remember the games that got them into the playoffs? or were they automatically given a spot at the beginning of the year?

I remember going 5-1 with Griese at the helm at the beginning of the season

And yeah, that drop was a travesty. So was the rest of the game, offensively. Simms was QB and got almost nothing done.

[BronxBomber]

Originally Posted by NoStatusQuo

I remember going 5-1 with Griese at the helm at the beginning of the season

And yeah, that drop was a travesty. So was the rest of the game, offensively. Simms was QB and got almost nothing done.

Yeah... if it was all Griese... where is he now?

This is too easy. Amateurs.

Originally Posted by TBayBuc#81

Where did that Shaun King thread go?

King thread was intended to be deleted for obvious reasons

BTW ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM

[TBayBuc#81]

Originally Posted by BucFanTom1

King thread was intended to be deleted for obvious reasons

BTW ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM

Too bad...that one looked like it was going to get interesting.

Originally Posted by BronxBomber

Yeah... if it was all Griese... where is he now?

This is too easy. Amateurs.

It was Griese, a #1 D, an actual run game, and sporadicly decent play from Simms.

Happy now? He almost looked like an NFL QB for a couple games. Sort of.

Irony: being called an amateur by someone who thinks Chris Simms should be a starting NFL QB.

[BronxBomber]

Originally Posted by NoStatusQuo

It was Griese, a #1 D, an actual run game, and sporadicly decent play from Simms.

Happy now? He almost looked like an NFL QB for a couple games. Sort of.

Irony: being called an amateur by someone who thinks Chris Simms should be a starting NFL QB.

Oh...ok ... I see now...

So where is Griese now?

Originally Posted by BronxBomber

Oh...ok ... I see now...

So where is Griese now?

He got his knee mangled, remember? Then we decided to start Simms over him and didn't resign him because of cap issues and his contract.

And last I checked, Griese is in Chicago, where half of their fans are screaming for him to start.

Now I get to ask a question: What do you think should be done with Simms?

[BronxBomber]

Originally Posted by NoStatusQuo

He got his knee mangled, remember? Then we decided to start Simms over him and didn't resign him because of cap issues and his contract.

And last I checked, Griese is in Chicago, where half of their fans are screaming for him to start.

Now I get to ask a question: What do you think should be done with Simms?

So that means Gruden & co. made another mistake letting Griese go?

Sounds pretty familiar ? Making mistakes with QBs. Sounds like a song you heard over and over again.

Any chance Simms being let go, will be par for the course?

Originally Posted by TBayBuc#81

Too bad...that one looked like it was going to get interesting.

Sorry, I agree

Though I was a King fan and in 2001 backed off from it big time.

Thread was deleted and rightfully so. Maybe the point, though rather under the covers, was taken by those it was intended for

Originally Posted by BronxBomber

So that means Gruden & co. made another mistake letting Griese go?

Sounds pretty familiar ? Making mistakes with QBs. Sounds like a song you heard over and over again.

Any chance Simms being let go, will be par for the course?

I guess the main difference is that Simms deserves to be let go. Any other nuggets of wisdom?

[navybuc81]

Originally Posted by BronxBomber

So that means Gruden & co. made another mistake letting Griese go?

Sounds pretty familiar ? Making mistakes with QBs. Sounds like a song you heard over and over again.

Any chance Simms being let go, will be par for the course?

Actually, the Bucs tried to resign Griese but he took the money and ran in Chicago. Bad decision on Griese's part, if you ask me.

I'd rather have Griese than Simms, to be honest. Griese's record was 10-7. Simms' was 6-10. And both basically had the same WRs and O-line.

[BronxBomber]

Originally Posted by NoStatusQuo

I guess the main difference is that Simms deserves to be let go. Any other nuggets of wisdom?

Once again... your genius impresses me. You must work for Gruden, because you think just like him. Together you and Gruden could get at least 5 wins.

Originally Posted by BronxBomber

Once again... your genius impresses me. You must work for Gruden, because you think just like him. Together you and Gruden could get at least 5 wins.

Way to turn it into an anti-Gruden sentiment, since you can't support any of your points with logic or facts.

Just go to your fall back plan:

[BronxBomber]

Originally Posted by navybuc81

Actually, the Bucs tried to resign Griese but he took the money and ran in Chicago. Bad decision on Griese's part, if you ask me.

I'd rather have Griese than Simms, to be honest. Griese's record was 10-7. Simms' was 6-10. And both basically had the same WRs and O-line.

Do you feel Simms had enough time to prove he was better or worse than Griese? 1 half season, a virtual rookie versus a seasoned journeyman?

Sometimes you have to wait for talent to fully emerge.

Different vein, but here we go, again

[navybuc81]

Originally Posted by BronxBomber

Do you feel Simms had enough time to prove he was better or worse than Griese? 1 half season, a virtual rookie versus a seasoned journeyman?

Sometimes you have to wait for talent to fully emerge.

He's been in this offense for 4 years. I think he's had more than enough time. In this offense, you need to be perfect with the short passes and slants, and Simms had major problems with this. We saw batted ball after batted ball, even on 5 step drops.

[BronxBomber]

Originally Posted by NoStatusQuo

Way to turn it into an anti-Gruden sentiment, since you can't support any of your points with logic or facts.

Just go to your fall back plan:

Your not posting facts, it's all second guessing speculation.

[BronxBomber]

Originally Posted by navybuc81

He's been in this offense for 4 years. I think he's had more than enough time. In this offense, you need to be perfect with the short passes and slants, and Simms had major problems with this. We saw batted ball after batted ball, even on 5 step drops.

Well once again, then you feel Grad and McCown are better backup choices than Simms.... I am curious what they have done right that makes people feel that way.