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Old 07-02-2003, 06:57 AM
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Buccaneers | Pittman Case Long From Over - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:44:05 -0700

Updating previous reports on Tampa Bay Buccaneers RB Michael Pittman, Roy Cummings, of the Tampa Tribune, reports attorneys on both sides of Pittman's probation violation hearing said that a verdict will not be reached at the July 2 hearing. "This is simply to make Michael aware of what it is the prosecution alleges he did to violate probation," Pittman's attorney Joel Thompson said. The court will likely set a later date for the presentation of evidence. Pittman's attorney said it could be Spring 2004 before any rulings are made and that the running back plans to attend training camp and play this season.



I'm not sure if he will play with the Bucs, but he probably can.
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Old 07-02-2003, 07:21 AM
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It just muddies the waters even more .......
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Old 07-02-2003, 09:43 AM
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Probably because at the moment, he is listed as the No. 1 RB
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Old 07-02-2003, 12:19 PM
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Probably because at the moment, he is listed as the No. 1 RB
and he was our leading rusher last year and 3rd in rec.
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Old 07-02-2003, 12:22 PM
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Why would we not want him? I don't understand all this Pittman hating. It seems that fans are looking for any way to jump on someone.

I don't see Pittman as the back of the future for the bucs, but I don't think getting rid of him is the way to go unless he is last on the RB depth chart. With him in camp it makes the RB situation very interesting and I think will make the competition very good.
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Old 07-02-2003, 12:25 PM
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Yeah come on guys. At least give the guy a chance to go thru the court procedures before you hang him
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Old 07-02-2003, 12:26 PM
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If he does play I hope he has tough skin, because there is a lot of fans that want him off the team and I imagine that every time he touches the ball he's going to be booed. (Just for the record, I would never boo anyone on my favorite team no matter what, but there are people that would).
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Old 07-02-2003, 12:26 PM
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Why would we not want him? I don't understand all this Pittman hating. It seems that fans are looking for any way to jump on someone.

I don't see Pittman as the back of the future for the bucs, but I don't think getting rid of him is the way to go unless he is last on the RB depth chart. With him in camp it makes the RB situation very interesting and I think will make the competition very good.
I agree that it will make camp more competitive. However, I also understand why many wish him gone. I would rather see him off the team one way or another before the first game of the season.
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:04 PM
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Mike Pittman makes the Tampabay Buccaneers better, that is the reason why I want him back.

I could care less what he does off the field, as long as he shows up and produces I'm happy.
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:15 PM
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personally, i think he should be gone..not only will he create a distraction, but at some point somebody either in the league or on the team needs to stand up and say "hey, what this guy did was wrong, and we can't let it go"
because to let him stay ays that this kind of activity is ok. that its okay to get physical with women...

ITS NOT!!!!!!

somewhere some kid likes pittman, or wears his jersey, and if pittman is realeased, that kid will go to his dad and ask why...
and hopefully that dad can say
"he was let go because he did something you should never do...put your hands on alady"
and another kid will be set straight.

although dungy never got us to the superbowl, he did set a moral standard, as well as give the club a sense of class, i would hate to see that tarnished becasue of this...

unfortunatly his posistion in the club allows him some opportunity, but if that werent the case, he'd be gone by now...

it would be nice it people looked at whats right over dollar signs...

and before anybody gets on my back about he should be tried first...
so remember the statement said that his testimony didnt match up with the physical evidence at hand..and he's been in altercations before...


but if for some reason he makes it far enough on to the field, in preseason or other wise...

i hope some kind of karma is served by somebody tackling him so bad it breaks both is legs, and ends his career...thats the least he deserves!!!!

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Old 07-02-2003, 01:16 PM
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Mike Pittman makes the Tampabay Buccaneers better, that is the reason why I want him back.
How does he make them a better team?? By having one good game last year and now drawing negative media attention to the team???

Please... I just hope that this is resolved by training camp opening
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:17 PM
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Re: Pittman can play next season

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I'm not sure if he will play with the Bucs, but he probably can.
He may not spend the season in jail, but the NFL could still suspend him. He is far from in the clear for this season.
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:18 PM
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but if for some reason he makes it far enough on to the field, in preseason or other wise...

i hope some kind of karma is served by somebody tackling him so bad it breaks both is legs, and ends his career...thats the least he deserves!!!!

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Old 07-02-2003, 01:19 PM
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How does he make them a better team?? By having one good game last year and now drawing negative media attention to the team???

Please... I just hope that this is resolved by training camp opening

Who lead us in total yards last year?


wait a second...his name is Mike Pittman.
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:19 PM
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Mike Pittman makes the Tampabay Buccaneers better, that is the reason why I want him back.

I could care less what he does off the field, as long as he shows up and produces I'm happy.

and what if he hit your mother,or sister, or daughter...then would it be okay?

this is not a case of the guy just got a BJ at the office and it affects his work...infidelity isnt right, but there is no physical violence accompannied by it (except for that one movie)

but the guy beats on women for whatever reason and you thing people should let that go?
at some point there has to be a moral obligation to the fans and society as well...
we cant just turn our back and pretend everthing is okay, thats gutless and spineless


plus untill the superbowl, he really didnt do squat anyway!!!
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:22 PM
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Who lead us in total yards last year?


wait a second...his name is Mike Pittman.
and yet we were still ranked in the bottam half of rushing, its a team effort that lead us to the superbowl....

we can only go up from there.....
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:29 PM
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and what if he hit your mother,or sister, or daughter...then would it be okay?

this is not a case of the guy just got a BJ at the office and it affects his work...infidelity isnt right, but there is no physical violence accompannied by it (except for that one movie)

but the guy beats on women for whatever reason and you thing people should let that go?
at some point there has to be a moral obligation to the fans and society as well...
we cant just turn our back and pretend everthing is okay, thats gutless and spineless


plus untill the superbowl, he really didnt do squat anyway!!!

Look I think Pittman is a A-hole. Like I said before as long as he shows up and produces I'm happy, if he is convicted then obviously he won't be on the field.

Lets see how this plays out before you start praying that he will break his legs.

Just my 2 cents though
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:30 PM
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Re: Re: Pittman can play next season

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He may not spend the season in jail, but the NFL could still suspend him. He is far from in the clear for this season.
If he does not go to jail for probation violation (highly likely he won't) why would the NFL not temporarily clear him until after the trial in the spring of 2004?

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Old 07-02-2003, 01:33 PM
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and yet we were still ranked in the bottam half of rushing, its a team effort that lead us to the superbowl....

we can only go up from there.....
He does more then just rush the ball...look how many blitz he picked up or how many catches he had, or look at his receiving yards.

i do believe with a improved o-line and a healthy ankle he will put up a very impressive rushing season.
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:37 PM
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If he does not go to jail for probation violation (highly likely he won't) why would the NFL not temporarily clear him until after the trial in the spring of 2004?
Precedent is there. NFL behavior policy does not necessarily coincide with the law.
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:41 PM
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If he does not go to jail for probation violation (highly likely he won't) why would the NFL not temporarily clear him until after the trial in the spring of 2004?
I did the Mort chat on ESPN today... I asked if he thought the league would take any action before the trial was over... He said no, the league will wait it out.

Just for info...
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:41 PM
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Precedent is there. NFL behavior policy does not necessarily coincide with the law.

Do you know if Ray Lewis was suspended for his murder involvement a couple years ago?

I think he was found innocent and the NFL still suspended him (I'm not sure, please correct me...that's why I'm asking you )

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Old 07-02-2003, 01:44 PM
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I'm gonna ask you again ALL. What NFL policy has he broken if he has not been convicted. Remember that on May 30, he was fine to play in the NFL. He has not and will not be convicted of the May 31 occurence until sometime next year. By NFL conduct standards whay is different now then on May 31.

If he goes to jail for the probation violation, then that changes, but not until
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Old 07-02-2003, 02:16 PM
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Why in hell would we want him in camp anyway?
Heck! I wouldn't even want him in the parking lot first!
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Old 07-02-2003, 02:38 PM
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Why would we not want him? I don't understand all this Pittman hating. It seems that fans are looking for any way to jump on someone.

I don't see Pittman as the back of the future for the bucs, but I don't think getting rid of him is the way to go unless he is last on the RB depth chart. With him in camp it makes the RB situation very interesting and I think will make the competition very good.
Pittman in all likelihood will be suspended by the NFL prior to the season. By him being in camp that only hinders the other RB progress towards the #1 RB spot.

This is the kind of garbage that distracts teams from playing. In my opinion this garbage needs to go to the curb. Soon.
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Old 07-02-2003, 02:45 PM
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I don't know the law "but" if he was just an office worker would he be allowed to go to the office until convicted?
I agree he's bad for the clubs rep and I agree he'll hinder the other backs if he's getting carries in camp but isn't he allowed by law to work?
It could be argued that the real problem is how long it takes to get these things to court and resolved.
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Old 07-02-2003, 02:46 PM
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Heck! I wouldn't even want him in the parking lot first!
Well, despite anyone's feelings of his football prowess, he was/is the Bucs No.1 RB.

As far as off the field I guess we have a judicial system that protects people from being judged, convicted, and ultimatly executed by the individual.

If in fact he remains the No.1 RB, personally I hope he has a reserved spot in the parking lot.
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Old 07-02-2003, 03:05 PM
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I would rsther see pittman in jail than on the field he could of injured or killed the people in the car I would rather take my chances with our other backs....just my opinion
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Old 07-02-2003, 03:12 PM
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I'm sorry. Most people who break probation are picked up and put back in jail immediately. Probation is a priviledge, not a right. Even if later found innocent, the state has the right to protect it's citizens before trial. I hope for the sake of the state and his wife that he doesn't find himself in another fit of rage before they finally resolve this thing. If anything happens to her it will fall in the lap of the justice system dragging it's feet.

I imagine that his stress level must be pretty high right now. He could be a time bomb.
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Old 07-02-2003, 03:15 PM
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and he was our leading rusher last year and 3rd in rec.
I could have been our leading rusher last year. No matter how much you like Pittman, DO NOT DEFEND HIM.
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