A glorious issue in the ATL

[Falcon_Freddie]

Yes, the 2003 season was a bitter disappointment for Falcons fans. However, Michael Vick’s injury exposed for all to see the dead wood on the team who could no longer hide their lack of ability behind Vick’s enormous capacity. Many second team Falcons players finally got their chance to prove that they were better than many of the starters - something many Falcons fans long suspected, but what Dan Reeves and staff either couldn’t or wouldn’t acknowledge.

We now have a new coach. Jim Mora, Jr. Mora is as qualified to be an NFL head coach as any NFL coordinator or college head coach available. What the Falcons lacked in 2003 was leadership, both on the field and on the sidelines. This we now have.

However, you Bucs fans are as predictable as the sunrise. No matter who the Falcons picked for the new coach, you know-nothings would start clucking like a bunch of hens about how the “Falcons blew it,” how “McKay is still helping the Bucs,” how “McKay doesn’t know anything,” ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

Your beloved team is now being run by an arrogant Head Coach who is now in charge of all personnel decisions. Since I wish ill towards the Bucs, I wouldn’t have it any other way. Your Head Coach chased off your former General Manager, Rich McKay, who, in the Bucs fans estimation, instantly transformed from genius to idiot. The truth is, McKay knows how to select coaches who can build teams; Former Bucs coach Tony Dungy (who is doing well in Indianapolis) and also Marvin Lewis (who is doing well in Cincinnati) validates that observation.

Despite the dismal previous season, it is anticipated that very few Falcons season tickets will not be renewed for 2004. With a competent owner, a competent GM, and a competent Head Coach at the helm, a glorious issue lay before us, the Falcons Nation.

Can you Bucs fans sincerely look towards the future with the same confidence?

Really?

too funny

[Sapp is God300]

Originally posted by Falcon_Freddie
Yes, the 2003 season was a bitter disappointment for Falcons fans. However, Michael Vick’s injury exposed for all to see the dead wood on the team who could no longer hide their lack of ability behind Vick’s enormous capacity. Many second team Falcons players finally got their chance to prove that they were better than many of the starters - something many Falcons fans long suspected, but what Dan Reeves and staff either couldn’t or wouldn’t acknowledge.

We now have a new coach. Jim Mora, Jr. Mora is as qualified to be an NFL head coach as any NFL coordinator or college head coach available. What the Falcons lacked in 2003 was leadership, both on the field and on the sidelines. This we now have.

However, you Bucs fans are as predictable as the sunrise. No matter who the Falcons picked for the new coach, you know-nothings would start clucking like a bunch of hens about how the “Falcons blew it,” how “McKay is still helping the Bucs,” how “McKay doesn’t know anything,” ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

Your beloved team is now being run by an arrogant Head Coach who is now in charge of all personnel decisions. Since I wish ill towards the Bucs, I wouldn’t have it any other way. Your Head Coach chased off your former General Manager, Rich McKay, who, in the Bucs fans estimation, instantly transformed from genius to idiot. The truth is, McKay knows how to select coaches who can build teams; Former Bucs coach Tony Dungy (who is doing well in Indianapolis) and also Marvin Lewis (who is doing well in Cincinnati) validates that observation.

Despite the dismal previous season, it is anticipated that very few Falcons season tickets will not be renewed for 2004. With a competent owner, a competent GM, and a competent Head Coach at the helm, a glorious issue lay before us, the Falcons Nation.

Can you Bucs fans sincerely look towards the future with the same confidence?

Really?

how can you be sure that Jim Mora Jr will turn out the way the falcons hope? Lovie Smith would have been a better choice. And yes, we do have a bright future, you troll. You'll know why when your looking up at us in the standings next year. Show some class.

[BabyBuc]

FF what do you expect a team's fanbase to say or do?

McKay is a double agent...the only way this can be explained...

[Sapp is God300]

Freddie, what as McKay done for you guys lately?

Who the hell is Jim Mora Jr.?

I'm not happy about this hiring,not one bit!I hope it all works out but I have my doubts.Look at it this way,Vick was signed for 10 years.He's already played 3 of those years.Now if this isn't the guy,he will still be here for another 3-4 years.If it's 4 then Vick will have played 7 of his 10 years.The next guy will have to deal with resigning him.

The time is NOW to do something.If this guy pans out then this post is irrelevent.If not then we are doomed to be searching for a QB in a few years with nothing spectacular to show for it.I hope he's the guy.

[Sapp is God300]

Falcon Freddie just left. Why do people leave and not give an answer ot a question about their arguement. Does this show he had no arguement?

Originally posted by Sapp is God300
Falcon Freddie just left. Why do people leave and not give an answer ot a question about their arguement. Does this show he had no arguement?

Flame bait.

[Sapp is God300]

Originally posted by All_da_way
Flame bait.

LOL

Let me get this straight....a proven head coach with a SB ring is running the Bucs into the ground while a rookie head coach will pull the Falcons out of the gutter?

The time is NOW to do something.If this guy pans out then this post is irrelevent.If not then we are doomed to be searching for a QB in a few years with nothing spectacular to show for it.I hope he's the guy. [/B]

You hope?

Dude, I am a Carolina fan to the end, but as I watched Atlanta beat the Panthers on Sunday night, I couldn't help but feel excited
just watching Michael Vick. I was shaking my head with anger, yet smiling with amazement. You simply can't beat the guy. If he suddenly lost the ability to throw, he would be a pro-bowl halfback. If he broke both knees, he would still have an arm like Favre. He's amazing.

If Terrell Owens were to wind up in Atlanta, you could pluck an O line out of a JV prep squad and ATL would be fine.

I didnt see this breaking news on the Falcons site!?!
Did somebody have a link?
How about a pic of this character.

[AF Go Bucs]

Originally posted by BuckinFan
Jim Sr (rt) Jim Jr (Lft)
[IMG]http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=jim+mora+jr/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/nfl/2001/1125/photo/a_moras_hi.jpg[/IMG]

Is this how I point daddy? Yes. Later I'll tell you how to say "Playoffs!?!"

[AF Go Bucs]

oh. You forgot to mention one important thing. You are hopeful based on potential. The Bucs have already won a super bowl. Do you think the falcons are going to by a dynasty now? You know, the same thing goes for falcons fans. No matter who they hired, it would be the same story. Now we have leadership/defense/offense/lovingkindness. Hey, good luck to your team. Hopefully the NFC south will represent better next year. No offense (completely ) to cat fans but I'd like to see more teams from the south. Namely the Bucs.

Originally posted by BuckinFan
Jim Sr (rt) Jim Jr (Lft)
[IMG]http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=jim+mora+jr/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/nfl/2001/1125/photo/a_moras_hi.jpg[/IMG]

ah, the day where the son taught the father, Mora Sr.'s team threw 5 INTs(1 for TD) to Mora Jr.'s team.

But Mora Jr. isn't really a good D coord, he blows too many leads.

Originally posted by johnnybuc
He'll be gone within 2 years, 3 at the top.

Unless we just have a great year next year,let's hope it's one year.With a healthy Vick all year we should be a playoff team.If not,ditch him.

[TheFalconArmy]

Jibber Jabber all you want...... With a healthy future Hall of Fame (I know how much you guys like this being thrown around) Mike Vick at the helm of the Falcons offense..... the ATL will have a great chance to win every game that he plays in (ala Michael Jordan or Shaq O'neill syndrome).....

The Falcons didn't have the greatest of D's last year and Vick took them to the 2nd round of the playoffs...... The Falcons D stunk this year and Vick won 3 out of his last 4 games this year......! No coach, weather it be Jim Mora Jr., Lovey Smith, Nick Saban, Jim Fossil, Denny Green, June Jones, Jerry Glanville, or Dan Reeves would be able to fully coach the explosive style of Mike Vick anyways (he is a play maker that makes things happen when the original play quickly breaks down)....... As long as the D coordinator can build up the Falcons D, the offense will be o.k. with our running game, improved WR corp. and Alge Crumpler..... the soon to be next best tight end behind T. Gonzalez!

I am not very happy with the signing, but regardless of the new head coach, anybody is better than old man Reeves and his 1985 playbook he used to use! I am willing to give the Mora Jr. a chance, since nobody on this board (Buc or Falcon fan) really knows how he will do anyways until he gets on the field with his new team......

I would have thought that the Falcon's would choose a more seasoned coach, but what the heck. The old man seemed to be out of touch and the Falcon's needed a younger edge. Is Jim Mora Jr. now the youngest head coach in the NFL? He sure looks like it!

I wonder if the players ( especially Vick ) is going to respect this guy and what he is going to do with the team. I am interested in hearing this guy speak and learn about what some of his convictions are.

[Bucko40]

The Blank/McKay propaganda machine is churning already. If the Falcons don't fix there OL issues Vick will never mature into a solid QB in the NFL. He will be on injured reserve to much.

Just an FYI to Falcons fans. Rich McKay and his scouting staff could build an OL in Tampa in 8 years. What makes you think it will change now.

Good Luck with that,

[BucNbeliever]

Originally posted by Grudenology
Is Jim Mora Jr. now the youngest head coach in the NFL? He sure looks like it!

Nah, he's 42.

Originally posted by Falcon_Freddie

We now have a new coach. Jim Mora, Jr. Mora is as qualified to be an NFL head coach as any NFL coordinator or college head coach available. What the Falcons lacked in 2003 was leadership, both on the field and on the sidelines. This we now have.

However, you Bucs fans are as predictable as the sunrise. No matter who the Falcons picked for the new coach, you know-nothings would start clucking like a bunch of hens about how the “Falcons blew it,” how “McKay is still helping the Bucs,” how “McKay doesn’t know anything,” ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

You did blow it. Considering Lovie Smith's past association with Mckay and the fact that your owner is on the NFL's diversity committe, yeah you guys look hypocritical. I have the NAACP gets all over your butts.

Jim Mora Jr? PLAYOFFS??????????? Can he say it just like dad? Maybe he can cry like him too.

Since I wish ill towards the Bucs, I wouldn’t have it any other way.

Someone needs a life.

Your Head Coach chased off your former General Manager, Rich McKay, who, in the Bucs fans estimation, instantly transformed from genius to idiot. The truth is, McKay knows how to select coaches who can build teams; Former Bucs coach Tony Dungy (who is doing well in Indianapolis) and also Marvin Lewis (who is doing well in Cincinnati) validates that observation.

A) Both Dungy and Lewis were FAR from being #1 on McKay's list and only got considferation after SEVERAL coaches turned McKay down.

B) You Falcons fans about McKay act like Colts fans that get all tore up over how we dumped Dungy. Youare so angry at us for "mistreating" then, but if we didn't "mistreat"then they'd be HERE in Tampa and not on YOUR team. So you should be HAPPY about it not mad. By the way if they both still in Tampa you'd think they both suck.[/quote]

Despite the dismal previous season, it is anticipated that very few Falcons season tickets will not be renewed for 2004. With a competent owner, a competent GM, and a competent Head Coach at the helm, a glorious issue lay before us, the Falcons Nation.[/quote]

Our waitng list is over 100,000 what yours?

Can you Bucs fans sincerely look towards the future with the same confidence?

Really? [/B]

Yes, unfortunately for you. Unlike the Falcons, Panthers and Saints we are capable of stringing together more than one winning season in a row.

[Bucko40]

Originally posted by TheFalconArmy
Jibber Jabber all you want...... With a healthy future Hall of Fame (I know how much you guys like this being thrown around) Mike Vick at the helm of the Falcons offense..... the ATL will have a great chance to win every game that he plays in (ala Michael Jordan or Shaq O'neill syndrome).....

The Falcons didn't have the greatest of D's last year and Vick took them to the 2nd round of the playoffs...... The Falcons D stunk this year and Vick won 3 out of his last 4 games this year......! No coach, weather it be Jim Mora Jr., Lovey Smith, Nick Saban, Jim Fossil, Denny Green, June Jones, Jerry Glanville, or Dan Reeves would be able to fully coach the explosive style of Mike Vick anyways (he is a play maker that makes things happen when the original play quickly breaks down)....... As long as the D coordinator can build up the Falcons D, the offense will be o.k. with our running game, improved WR corp. and Alge Crumpler..... the soon to be next best tight end behind T. Gonzalez!

I am not very happy with the signing, but regardless of the new head coach, anybody is better than old man Reeves and his 1985 playbook he used to use! I am willing to give the Mora Jr. a chance, since nobody on this board (Buc or Falcon fan) really knows how he will do anyways until he gets on the field with his new team......

Vick a future Hall of Fame player, Please. What has he done to even be considered after 3 seasons? He's a good athlete and an awesome runner but he hasn't won anything of substance. No MVP, No division crown, no Super Bowl.

If Vick continues to run the way he does and doesn't become a complete QB then he will never be in the Hall of Fame.

As for the Crumpler Gonzalez comment, I can only laugh at that one.

[Dyoung]

Originally posted by Falcon_Freddie
Yes, the 2003 season was a bitter disappointment for Falcons fans. However, Michael Vick’s injury exposed for all to see the dead wood on the team who could no longer hide their lack of ability behind Vick’s enormous capacity. Many second team Falcons players finally got their chance to prove that they were better than many of the starters - something many Falcons fans long suspected, but what Dan Reeves and staff either couldn’t or wouldn’t acknowledge.

We now have a new coach. Jim Mora, Jr. Mora is as qualified to be an NFL head coach as any NFL coordinator or college head coach available. What the Falcons lacked in 2003 was leadership, both on the field and on the sidelines. This we now have.

However, you Bucs fans are as predictable as the sunrise. No matter who the Falcons picked for the new coach, you know-nothings would start clucking like a bunch of hens about how the “Falcons blew it,” how “McKay is still helping the Bucs,” how “McKay doesn’t know anything,” ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

Your beloved team is now being run by an arrogant Head Coach who is now in charge of all personnel decisions. Since I wish ill towards the Bucs, I wouldn’t have it any other way. Your Head Coach chased off your former General Manager, Rich McKay, who, in the Bucs fans estimation, instantly transformed from genius to idiot. The truth is, McKay knows how to select coaches who can build teams; Former Bucs coach Tony Dungy (who is doing well in Indianapolis) and also Marvin Lewis (who is doing well in Cincinnati) validates that observation.

Despite the dismal previous season, it is anticipated that very few Falcons season tickets will not be renewed for 2004. With a competent owner, a competent GM, and a competent Head Coach at the helm, a glorious issue lay before us, the Falcons Nation.

Can you Bucs fans sincerely look towards the future with the same confidence?

Really?

Freddy....you just got fingered! Your post shines so much sunshine up McKays a**, that he has light beams coming out of every orifice! 2 posts and you come on this MB like you've been here before. Or have you? With posts like this, I wonder how quickly it took for you to get banned, and come on with a different name?

What your season really showed is that your team is built around one player...MIKE VICK! He goes down and so does your season. You talked about us "clucking" about Mckay, what do you think your post was doing. Only seems fitting that your team mascot is that of a bird...

What makes Jim Mora Jr. such a quailified coach? I like to see your reasoning on this. It ought to be a laugher. Like your 2nd post.

Originally posted by texasgoldrush
But Mora Jr. isn't really a good D coord, he blows too many leads.

He coached for the Falcons last year?

[Greg in DC]

Originally posted by BuckinFan
I'll dig this thread up whenJim Jr. has a melt down this year like his dad did at Indy. And I have to agree with JohnnyBuc. 2 years he'll be out and you guys will be back trolling about someone else who is your "qualified" coaching candidate.

And to top it all off you "qualified" coach was the defensive coordinator (everyone knows this) of the 49ers. Where he gave up a stellar 308ypg, over 100ypg rushing, over 200ypg passing and about 21ppg. That was good enough for 4th in the league overall. But, can he transform the Falcons who finished 32nd? Yes 32nd equals last in the NFL. He may be a good coordinator, but unfortunately that doesn't always mean he will make a good head coach. Just ask Greg Williams.

I would die a happy man if we could get Jim Mora Jr to ask (with the screwy face) to the media, "Playoffs?! Playoffs?! We'll be lucky to win another game!!"

[zpanther]

Originally posted by Grudenology
I would have thought that the Falcon's would choose a more seasoned coach, but what the heck. The old man seemed to be out of touch and the Falcon's needed a younger edge. Is Jim Mora Jr. now the youngest head coach in the NFL? He sure looks like it!

I wonder if the players ( especially Vick ) is going to respect this guy and what he is going to do with the team. I am interested in hearing this guy speak and learn about what some of his convictions are.

McKay would never choose an experienced coach. He wants someone he can control. Just look at his history.

[TheFalconArmy]

Originally posted by Bucko40
Vick a future Hall of Fame player, Please. What has he done to even be considered after 3 seasons?

As for the Crumpler Gonzalez comment, I can only laugh at that one.

The first was a joke there buddy! The 2nd is very true you sill see!

[Lt. Dan]

Originally posted by zpanther
McKay would never choose an experienced coach. He wants someone he can control. Just look at his history.

I do believe that. McKay never really searches beyond coordinators. Dungy, Lewis, and now Mora Jr. I'm not saying Mora won't work out, but clearly McKay likes a coach he can stick his hand up play ventiloquist.

Originally posted by BucFanInAtlanta
He coached for the Falcons last year?

It must have really burned you up when the only lead we didn't blow was against the succaneers, in your house, knocking you out of the playoffs