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08-04-2004, 01:38 PM
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Vinny
Tony Gutierrez / AP Photo
Dallas Cowboys quarterback Vinny Testaverde prepares to throw a pass during afternoon workouts at training camp Sunday in Oxnard, Calif. PRINT THIS STORY | E-MAIL THIS STORY Testaverde wants to prove he can still start By Jennifer Floyd Engel / Knight Ridder Newspapers (KRT) August 1, 2004 OXNARD, Calif. - "You are just like Tyson." Not exactly a compliment. Not before relative unknown Danny Williams pummeled enigmatic boxer Mike Tyson on Friday. Certainly not afterward. So you will be shocked to learn Dallas Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said those words to Vinny Testaverde, his 40-year-old quarterback who was sought and signed this off-season because of Parcells' faith in him. "I was kidding him. I said, `I am going to call you Tyson this summer. You are just like Tyson. You are both out of excuses now,' " Parcells recalled telling Testaverde. There is some truth to the comparison. They are both athletes who have been there, done that and are now close to the end of the line. They are both giving it one more go. And they both are having to answer the question: Can he still do it? Testaverde realizes all of this, yet notes a key difference. "I told (Parcells), `The difference between myself and Tyson is he "has to fight and I "want to fight,' " Testaverde said. And there you have it, probably the best explanation for why Testaverde is putting himself through the rigors of his 18th NFL training camp. Testaverde is not in camp because he wasted almost 20 years of paychecks and needs the money, a la Tyson, or because he does not have anything waiting for him after football, a la Tyson, or because he cannot imagine his life without flash bulbs popping, a la Tyson. Testaverde is putting his body through two-a-days, running sprints after practice with quarterbacks almost half his age and having his butt chewed by Parcells because that is what you do when you want to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. "So you "really want to "start?" an incredulous reporter asked Testaverde on Saturday. "That is the goal," Testaverde said, either not catching the incredulity or ignoring it. Parcells said Friday he did not believe in incumbents, contradicted himself Saturday by saying incumbent Quincy Carter had a leg up, but finished with what has been his mantra since he became Cowboys coach: Whoever is best will play. Which is what Parcells told Testaverde before the Cowboys signed him. Parcells does not know if Testaverde can still be a 16-game starter in the NFL. "I really don't," Parcells said. "These guys got to show me they can still do it, that they want to still do it, that it is still important to them and challenging to them, and that they are willing to pay the price to be successful." Testaverde already answered that question, every morning at 7:30 when he trekked down to his basement. His basement is a gym. He lifts weights there for two hours. He goes upstairs and eats breakfast. Then he goes to a local field and throws 60 passes. Then he does his running, sprints for speed, jogging for endurance. Only then does he do off-season stuffsuch as playing with the kids and playing golf and whatever it is that football players do. "The average person wouldn't know that. I know that because I know what he does," Parcells said. "That is what has allowed him to stay in his league at his age and be a physical phenomenon. He really is. He is a powerful man. It's because he works very hard at it. "Now, where that takes him, I don't know. All I know is he gives himself a chance." All the off-season stuff got him onto the practice field with Carter. What he does on it will determine whether he stays on it when the regular season begins. Watching him Saturday, he still has it. He throws like he is 20. He also scrambles like he is 60. None of which will matter in Parcells' decision-making process. "The mechanical skills being equal, let's say if that's the way it turned out, I would want then to see who just seems to be able to get the team to do things," Parcells said. "You know, there's been quite a few quarterbacks with not very good skills that were able to get their team in the end zone. Then there's been also a great number that had the good arms and the prototypical bodies, but not able to be successful on a long-term basis. So what I look for, I look for a guy to get his team to score touchdowns." So what convinced Testaverde in the off-season that he wanted to try to be that guy one last time? "I ask myself three questions," Testaverde said. "Am I happy? Am I healthy? And can I still do it?" He answered "yes" to all this off-season, which is why he is here. How Parcells answers the latter will determine if he starts. © 2004, Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Visit the Star-Telegram on the World Wide Web at http://www.star-telegram.com. 
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#2
08-04-2004, 02:24 PM
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let the games begin.
U know who KJ wanted... U know Vinny will be finding our boy. Just remeber guys... All those times KJ had to reach back for the ball, on the slants, or they were real low... People killing him over his YAC, (hes never going to be huge YAC guy) But he is much better then u think. especially on the slant. Esp, if the saftey is in the box trying to stop the run. in conclusion Vinny will hit KJ in STRIDE. Something that rarely happened in TB. Oh yah, he'll be giving him the ball in the red zone as well. He can throw in a tight window. Just cause its tight don't make him covered.
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08-04-2004, 02:30 PM
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If VT stays healthy as a starter for more than 3 consecutive games I'll be shocked.
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08-04-2004, 02:31 PM
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You are right. Key should have 100 catches for 1800 yards and 16 TD's.
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08-04-2004, 02:41 PM
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how can you possibly be happy with quincy carter's release. Remember he got you 10 wins last year. Now, you have a 40 year old guy that hasn't been a starter in years(yeah he started games last year due to injury)
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08-04-2004, 02:41 PM
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08-04-2004, 02:42 PM
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08-04-2004, 02:49 PM
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 >2 games= surprise >3 games= shock
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08-04-2004, 02:54 PM
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08-04-2004, 03:06 PM
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08-04-2004, 04:24 PM
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You never cease to amaze me, STASS. At least you're on fire for your team...good luck rooting for them this year, you'll need it!
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08-04-2004, 04:31 PM
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08-04-2004, 04:39 PM
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He doesn't love Dallas, he loves KJ. Apparently he love the Tuna and Vinny T as well. Something tells me that 1998 was a banner year as far as STASS was concerned, KJ, Tuna, Vinny T all with the Jets.
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#17
08-04-2004, 04:50 PM
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Hey,
My sister-in-law dated Vinny back when he was a Buc, he even signed a football for my nephews. though some bonehead (me  ) told them his signature wouldn't be worth much, go ahead and use the football.Still catch grief for that. 
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08-04-2004, 06:21 PM
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I think Vinny is a great QB that hasn't had a much luck in his career. This is like a second chance, from 99. They got robbed. KJ and vinny, Tuna, Anderson want to right a wrong. Its going to happen. They are a very talented team. U should be able to see that.
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08-04-2004, 06:31 PM
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08-04-2004, 06:34 PM
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lol lol lol u know nothing man. Its real obvious, u couldn't make any sense if u tried. 7td 2 ints last year in limited action . Not 10 years ago. With a rating of 90. 90. Man does he suck... lol hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha didn't Mike Ditka tell u how KJ was junk, and Quincy was the starter, keep believing what others tell u. Don't make your own opinion. Greatest coach in NFL history loves the guy swears by him... Man I can't believe how stupid he must be.
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08-04-2004, 06:37 PM
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08-04-2004, 06:38 PM
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Gennaro DiNapoli Al Johnson Tyson Walter G Larry Allen DeMingo Graham Andre Gurode Thomas Herrion Matt Lehr Tango McCauley Stephen Peterman OT Flozell Adams Javiar Collins Jacob Rogers Darrick Sanders Torrin Tucker Dave Volk Kurt Vollers QB Quincy Carter Drew Henson Tony Romo Vinny Testaverde FB Richie Anderson Darian Barnes Jamar Martin Lousaka Polite RB Erik Bickerstaff Aveion Cason Julius Jones ReShard Lee TE Dan Campbell Sean Ryan Jason Witten WR Antonio Bryant Terrance Copper Patrick Crayton Terry Glenn Cedric James Keyshawn Johnson Brandon Middleton Zuriel Smith Randal Williams Heres your offensive depth chart. -Quincy +Eddie(woo-hoo) George. Hey you know what youre right that is a great team. I bow down to your expert football knowledge. Sure do wish that was the Bucs roster on offense. 
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08-04-2004, 06:53 PM
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Running Back
C. Garner M. Pittman B. Bennett J. White E. Graham Fullback M. Alstott G. Comella J. Cook C. Cramer D. Dyer Wide Receiver K. McCardell J. Jurevicius M. Clayton F. Murphy M. Jones E. Shepherd C. Collins Quarterback B. Johnson B. Griese C. Simms J. Garrett Wide Receiver J. Galloway C. Lee B. Schroeder J. Skaggs M. Knight F. Davis D. Farmer S. Morris Right Tackle T. Steussie K. Walker A. Davis Right Guard M. Stinchcomb C. Coleman J. Whittle Center J. Wade A. King B. Claxton S. Jackson Left Guard M. O'Dwyer K. Jenkins S. Mahan J. Terry Left Tackle D. Deese C. Ziemann M. Moroz Tight End D. Moore R. Dudley K. Dilger N. Lawrie W. Heller Ok heres Tampas offense, now I am not delusional, I hope we make the playoffs and go from there. But if you are the Guru you think you are, looking at our roster compared to yours, and believing what you say about your team, hell boys its another superbowl for us this year easy. Lets not get into deffenses. Not to mention a 3rd place finish in you division, I would say let it go. Eagles, Minnesota, Seattle, Tampa(or Carolina) theres your division winners then youve got the Rams, Skins, Falcons(could win division), Carolina, blah blah enough said. Maybe you guys will win the NIT.
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08-04-2004, 07:07 PM
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08-04-2004, 07:19 PM
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I need to watch film.. Hahahahhahhaha Plz. u'll see the diff.
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#29
08-04-2004, 07:36 PM
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Maybe if you guys stop replying to this traitor's Cowboys posts he will go away.
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08-04-2004, 07:39 PM
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