Official Buccaneers.com Roster and Depth Chart In.

Finally It's in and boy does it have me amped for the season. I'm sure it will change according to the Training Camp but at least it gives an idea of what the coaches are seeing in the first days of practice.


http://www.buccaneers.com/team/depthchart.aspx

Offense:

WR1: Joey Galloway, Ike Hilliard, Kevin Youngblood
WR2: Micheal Clayton, Edell Shepherd, DeAndrew Rubin

O-Line:
LT: Deese
LG: Stinchcomb
C: Wade
RG: Terry
RT: Walker

Tight End: Anthony Becht, Alex Smith, Will Heller

QB: Brian Griese, Chris Simms

RB: Carnell Williams, Michael Pittman

FB: Alstott, Cook, Razzano


Defense:

LE: Spires, White
DT: Hovan, Gregory
DT: Mcfarland, Wyms
RE: Rice, Mcneal

SLB: Jeff Gooch, Cooper
MLB: Shelton Quarles, Barrett Ruud
WLB: Derrick Brooks, Nece

RCB: Ronde Barber, Juran Boldin
LCB: Brian Kelly, Torrie Cox

SS: Jermain Phillips, Nicholson
FS: Dexter Jackson, Will Allen

Our D Line looks good if everyone can stay healthy. and the WR also looks great If everyone stays healthy. The Whole team looks great if they all can stay healthy.

http://www.buccaneers.com/team/depthchart.aspx

[Bradentonian]

Looks like Cox will be returining punts, as well.
Davis is back to tackle on the chart. I hope he has a chance to compete for a starting job SOMEwhere on the line.

Originally Posted by Bradentonian

Looks like Cox will be returining punts, as well.
Davis is back to tackle on the chart. I hope he has a chance to compete for a starting job SOMEwhere on the line.

This May Be the year we get in the books on Punt and Kickoff Returns... I really love the way Cox returns kickoffs, He gets the ball then he turns on the jets.

I think Davis will Show up in Training Camp, Hopefully he can compete for the starting job.

I agree with all but the WRs I think Brackins and Warren should be 4 and 5

[Cold Buc Fan]

Youngblood and Rubin that high on the list? really?

Originally Posted by Cold Buc Fan

Youngblood and Rubin that high on the list? really?

Well Warren and Russell will be battleing Youngblood and Rubin for that 5th and 6th WR spot on the final roster... Brackins is injured, Physically unable to preform and so is Garner...

So By the End of Camp I wouldn't be suprised if Russel, Warren or Brackins isn't higher on the Depth charts.

Originally Posted by QBSIMMS

I agree with all but the WRs I think Brackins and Warren should be 4 and 5

Brackins hasn't practiced yet he's on the PUP list, Physically unable to perform, Hamstring injury. He will be at the bottom of the WR depth Chart until he able to practice.

Originally Posted by Looneyboy

Brackins hasn't practiced yet he's on the PUP list, Physically unable to perform, Hamstring injury. He will be at the bottom of the WR depth Chart until he able to practice.

ahhhhh. I forgot my fault sorry..... I expect BIG things from him down the road......after he puts on some weight

I think that Earnest Graham/Derek Watson battle for the 3rd RB spot will be interesting; I don't mention Garner because his injury seems pretty serious.

I'm also kind of surprised to see this Bryant McNeal guy beating out Savage for the Rice backup job. I really don't know anything about McNeal, but it seems to me that Savage, with a year in the system and good size, should have beaten him out. Again, this probably means nothing because there is still a lot of camp left(they haven't even put pads on) and the pre season games haven't been played yet.

Some other points of interest: Anthony Bryant is pretty low on the depth chart, but he did have that slight hamstring injury. Matt Bryant is ahead of France for the kicker job; after reading Bucko40's report, this seems surprising.

[Rorschach]

KC 83 Dave Moore 77 Jeb Terry
What does KC stand for? Is it kicking center (i.e. long snapper)?

[MarleyMon81]

Originally Posted by Kfalsey

KC 83 Dave Moore 77 Jeb Terry
What does KC stand for? Is it kicking center (i.e. long snapper)?

Yeah, KC=kicking center or LS.

I also like it that Cox seems to be #1 in both KR and PR. They need to keep Galloway as healthy as possible as the #2 WR. Cox has the look of a great return man, hopefully he can finally pop one in the KR game this year. Galloway still is a pretty good PR but I'd rather see him in on offense and let Cox handle those duties.

[Rorschach]

Thanks Marley, I had never heard the position called kicking center before. I always just thought long snapper was the offical moniker for that position.

[england]

Hoven and Gooch starters? and that is an ugly O-line

Originally Posted by chileno

I think that Earnest Graham/Derek Watson battle for the 3rd RB spot will be interesting; I don't mention Garner because his injury seems pretty serious.

I'm also kind of surprised to see this Bryant McNeal guy beating out Savage for the Rice backup job. I really don't know anything about McNeal, but it seems to me that Savage, with a year in the system and good size, should have beaten him out. Again, this probably means nothing because there is still a lot of camp left(they haven't even put pads on) and the pre season games haven't been played yet.

Some other points of interest: Anthony Bryant is pretty low on the depth chart, but he did have that slight hamstring injury. Matt Bryant is ahead of France for the kicker job; after reading Bucko40's report, this seems surprising.

I don't think thats suprising at all, Matt Bryant has a really strong leg, and NFL experience, While I wouldn't Mind France being the starting kicker, I think Matt Bryant is a safer choice.

His Kickoff Ability is also really good. He can get TB a lot of Touchbacks on kickoffs.

Originally Posted by england

Hoven and Gooch starters?

well last year Gooch gat in some key playing time against ST.Louis (that was one of the few games I did get to see) and he ended up playing. He did really good to me. He got some great tackles and he got sideline to sideline pretty good to me.

Originally Posted by england

Hoven and Gooch starters? and that is an ugly O-line

thats what itll be like till next years fa and draft periods conclude. the oline is suspect right now, with rooks in the wait. hopefully deese and stinchcomb get beat out in camp. hovan as a starting dt aint bad, well just have to wait and see on that one. hopefully this system suits him and he gels with our impressive d. gooch is my biggest worry. the loss of gold ****ed us up. thatll be an issue in next years draft. that is unless they can somehow restructure mcfarland, and rice, or find another means of money, and go after a lb on the fa. is boulware still available?

[MarleyMon81]

Originally Posted by england

Hoven and Gooch starters? and that is an ugly O-line

Gooch has starting experience at the SAM in this defense in 1998 and played very well in it. He'll be fine till Cooper is ready to assume the starter's role. Since the SAM backer is only used 50% of the time, you'll probably see Cooper subbing for Gooch on occasion to get on the field.

And at this point I think Hovan is their best option as a staring NT. Bryant may make the team, but his type of player is mostly a rotation/situation type player at this point. Hovan is tailor made for this defense as long as his head and heart is in it. I think he'll have a rebirth under Kiffin and Marinelli.

[MarleyMon81]

Originally Posted by Looneyboy

I don't think thats suprising at all, Matt Bryant has a really strong leg, and NFL experience, While I wouldn't Mind France being the starting kicker, I think Matt Bryant is a safer choice.

His Kickoff Ability is also really good. He can get TB a lot of Touchbacks on kickoffs.

LB, is Bryant's KO average pretty good? Not questioning the comment, just asking because I've never really seen the guy KO much. Martin and Taylor's KO were quite short and put the coverage unit in a bind at times. With a young ST coverage unit this year, the more TB's the better.

I was all for a neck and neck PK competition in TC after France started out like a house on fire in NFLE. However his accuracy really took a plummet the last part of the season. At this point Bryant is probably the better and safer pick at kicker. I'm sure the Bucs will be watching the waiver wire in case a vet kicker they like comes available.

Random question, but what do you guys think about us making a run at Corey Simon next year?

[Psykes]

Not gonna happen. I'd be surprised if he left the Eagles at all... I remember hearing rumours about a trade sending him to Baltimore.

Even if he did leave Philly as FA, I doubt we could get our hands on him. What can I say, cap restrictions are a *****.

[Bucsgirl-DK]

Originally Posted by chileno

I don't mention Garner because his injury seems pretty serious.

Actually Gruden said yesterday that his knee has completely healed, all he needs now is to get in shape again. And he will be taking it a bit slower in the beginning since the risk of getting injured is a lot bigger when you are not in great shape, especially with his age.

[Cold Buc Fan]

Originally Posted by england

Hoven and Gooch starters? and that is an ugly O-line

I'm more than comfortable with them as starters Yes that O-line won't make me or Greise sleep well at night.

Originally Posted by MarleyMon81

LB, is Bryant's KO average pretty good? Not questioning the comment, just asking because I've never really seen the guy KO much. Martin and Taylor's KO were quite short and put the coverage unit in a bind at times. With a young ST coverage unit this year, the more TB's the better.

I was all for a neck and neck PK competition in TC after France started out like a house on fire in NFLE. However his accuracy really took a plummet the last part of the season. At this point Bryant is probably the better and safer pick at kicker. I'm sure the Bucs will be watching the waiver wire in case a vet kicker they like comes available.

I can't remember where I read it but earlier when we made the deal to get Bryant and after we released Taylor, Their was an article or something that I read about Bryants kicking ability. I specifically remember them saying Taylors kick off ability was poor, and they said that it was a plus for the Buccaneers to have Matt Bryant competing for the job becuase of his FG kicking ability as well as Kick off ability. Gramatica's FG accuracy was bad, but he had a great kickoff ability which made Dungy pick him up in Indy cause Vanderjagt Kickoffs sucked.

I actually had a Thread started about Matt Bryant vs. Jason Taylor. Heres a Link

http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showthread.php?t=90097

EDIT:

NFL.com has Matt Bryant Averaging 60+ yard Kickoffs... So hopefully he can keep it consistantly deep. None of his kicks have been returned for a TD, and the average return distance of his kickoffs are around 20 yrds. So hopefully if he makes the final roster he will help our special teams as well as our defense out with some great kickoffs as well as accurate FGs.

[BannedSrqFan]

Originally Posted by QBSIMMS

I agree with all but the WRs I think Brackins and Warren should be 4 and 5

Uh, let them prove themselves first. Especially since they need to show something on special teams also.

Originally Posted by BannedSrqFan

Uh, let them prove themselves first. Especially since they need to show something on special teams also.

thats true..... I believe that J.R. Russell can return kicks.....Lousville fan correct me if Im wrong...

[MarleyMon81]

Originally Posted by BannedSrqFan

Uh, let them prove themselves first. Especially since they need to show something on special teams also.

ST will be a definate factor in some of the back up positions. Some of our back up RB must produce on ST. If guys like Russell and Warren or any of the other young WR are going to make this team, they'll have to show it on ST. You figure after Clayton, Galloway, and Hilliard, the 4-5 or 6 WR will not get much offensive field time so they'll have to contribute in other ways.

[sapp is da man]

A healthy Joey Galloway and Michael Clayton at WR's gets me all tingly inside.

[BannedSrqFan]

Originally Posted by MarleyMon81

ST will be a definate factor in some of the back up positions. Some of our back up RB must produce on ST. If guys like Russell and Warren or any of the other young WR are going to make this team, they'll have to show it on ST. You figure after Clayton, Galloway, and Hilliard, the 4-5 or 6 WR will not get much offensive field time so they'll have to contribute in other ways.

Bingo. And that 4th receiver will have to show some special qualities for the 4 wide out set. Gruden is not going to make this a popularity contest with so much on the line for this season and the next. I like the approach and the intial lineup and hope that some of the rooks step up. The key is learning their ST and blocking assignments and for the WR's, not just learning but making their routes second nature.

[Sortin]

Originally Posted by Looneyboy

Gramatica's FG accuracy was bad, but he had a great kickoff ability which made Dungy pick him up in Indy cause Vanderjagt Kickoffs sucked.

Seriously? I don't recall Gramatica having "great" kickoff ability.

Originally Posted by Looneyboy

I actually had a Thread started about Matt Bryant vs. Jason Taylor. Heres a Link

http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showthread.php?t=90097

You mean JAY Taylor?

I don't think Taylor was given the chance he earned on the field. Should have kept him around into this offseason, at least to see if he can work on the kickoffs.

And would people lay off the KR TD issue? Cox was in the top 5 for KR average, yet people are still looking for a TD as if that means anything. Field position is more important than 1 or 2 TDs during the season.

[MarleyMon81]

Originally Posted by Sortin

And would people lay off the KR TD issue? Cox was in the top 5 for KR average, yet people are still looking for a TD as if that means anything. Field position is more important than 1 or 2 TDs during the season.

I'll take Cox's 26+ yard return average any season. He is the KR going into camp and from what he showed last year he'll be the primary KR again. Field position is always important, but to be able to bust one for a TD is something that swings momentum faster than anything.

Plus it would get the TV guys to stop commenting on it every single time. I found something out a while back that I found interesting about KR. The Bucs haven't returned one in 30 years. The Saints returned their franchise's opening KO for a TD.