Sean Mahan Leap Frogs Jeb Terry Into Starting RG Position

[MarleyMon81]

Buccaneers | Mahan Takes over at Right Guard
Sat, 6 Aug 2005 21:03:36 -0700

Ira Kaufman, of the Tampa Tribune, reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Jon Gruden has indicated OG Sean Mahan has moved ahead of OG Jeb Terry at the starting right guard as of Saturday, August 6.

Probably the first 2nd string take over we've had in camp (France over Bryant should be confirmed soon as well.) Mahan has really turned it up this week on Terry and it finally looks like it's now Mahan's to lose. He got good starting experience last year all be it at center. However he's a young guy who's good in run blocking. I liked what he did last year learning on the run as he did. Terry can of course take the job back but it's good to see this type of competition.

I like this. I've been reading good things about Mahan, but it makes me wonder if Terry was a wasted pick. What do you know though, in the Sporting News camp preview article, they said this would probably happen. Good journalism out of a magazine that doesn't see it too often.

[BucsBadBoy]

Wait.......wait............wait. A young guy who can block? A bright spot on our O-line? Hell is starting to get alittle cold I am glad at least one of the young guys is taking advantage and stepping up. Hopefully at least one more can grab a starting spot and maybe we can actually open up some holes for the RB's and also give the QB more then 1.5 seconds to throw the ball. Good news,definatly.

[MarleyMon81]

I don't know if it means Terry was a wasted pick. Maybe it just means Mahan was a very good pick.

Terry's a young guy so he's not going anywhere and still has LS ability.

[MarleyMon81]

I still think Buenning could end up the starting LG, but this minor calf injury he has could stall that. The games will tell the tale. Stinchcomb isn't a major hurdle to clear.

The Bucs sound even more concerned about Deese's same injury this TC. I just don't see him starting at this point. If it's the same injury that limited his mobility all last year he'll just be a liability out there. Anthony Davis has again taken advantage of the increased 1st team reps. Gruden said in his post practice PC that right now Davis is the starting LT. I see Davis at LT in Minnesota.

With guys like Davis, Buenning, and Mahan along the line, those are 3 road plows when it comes to the running game. It won't happen overnight with the young guys, but it's a step in the right direction.

Sean is doing surprisingly well- maybe soon his madden rating will reflect that. I hope this brings out stronger play by Terry and he out performs Mahan's great performance. I have a feeling Mahan will lock up the Center position during the season.

But let the best man for the job take the job is what I say. Am hoping for a rookie to come out big too.

[Hawxter19]

I think going against Simeon Rice helps Davis out a whole lot. I also don't think I could have stated anything more obvious.

[MarleyMon81]

Originally Posted by Hawxter19

I think going against Simeon Rice helps Davis out a whole lot. I also don't think I could have stated anything more obvious.

That's a good point Hawxter. Davis probably won't face too many players better at rushing the passer from the RDE spot than Rice.

[Confuzed Azn]

Has anybody heard anything promising out of Colmer?

[MarleyMon81]

Originally Posted by Confuzed Azn

Has anybody heard anything promising out of Colmer?

He's moved from backing up LT to RT since Davis has looked so great in TC. The conversion can take some time and he has struggled a little. He wasn't projected to start right away anyway so sometime to grow is good. He's definately gotten better and more consistent as the week went on. The coaches apparently were quite happy when they saw him counter a move by Spires that Spires had used the previous day to beat Colmer. Quick study but will take sometime to fully develop. With this probably being Yatta's last year, Colmer has time to grow.

What is it going to take this season to get the OL firing? Certainly some great depth wouldn't hurt. Thats exactlly what this kind of news is eluding too. It is already a battle in the trenches and hopefully we'll see some of that fight from the OL in Tennessee next weekend.

It took Brad Johnson coming back in a flak jacket against the Vikings Nov 3 2002 to see the Bucs Oline start showing signs of life.

Surely this season the rejuvinated OL can find some other inspiration than a QB with broken ribs to set them on the right track.

Originally Posted by jbusci

It took Brad Johnson coming back in a flak jacket against the Vikings Nov 3 2002 to see the Bucs Oline start showing signs of life.

No trying to Jack the thread... But, Man I miss Brad.

Too bad his arm went all ramen noodle on us.

Originally Posted by Reverend Webb

Now you Jinxed us. Watch Rice ring Culpepper's bell, only to have Brad step in and light us up. We've been having that kind of luck the past couple of seasons.

I hope not..... It would be hard to watch Brad play against us.

Glad to see you back Webb.

[Cadillac2106]

I think this is a great move by Jon Gruden..... all be it it might not end up this way when the season starts, this atleast is making more competition and will help improve our o-line.....

[RangerBuc]

Originally Posted by MarleyMon81

He's moved from backing up LT to RT since Davis has looked so great in TC. The conversion can take some time and he has struggled a little. He wasn't projected to start right away anyway so sometime to grow is good. He's definately gotten better and more consistent as the week went on. The coaches apparently were quite happy when they saw him counter a move by Spires that Spires had used the previous day to beat Colmer. Quick study but will take sometime to fully develop. With this probably being Yatta's last year, Colmer has time to grow.

He was also struggling through a hip-pointer as well. Those can linger for a couple weeks if the athlete does not give the area adequate rest.

Originally Posted by MarleyMon81

Buccaneers | Mahan Takes over at Right Guard
Sat, 6 Aug 2005 21:03:36 -0700

Ira Kaufman, of the Tampa Tribune, reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Jon Gruden has indicated OG Sean Mahan has moved ahead of OG Jeb Terry at the starting right guard as of Saturday, August 6.

Probably the first 2nd string take over we've had in camp (France over Bryant should be confirmed soon as well.) Mahan has really turned it up this week on Terry and it finally looks like it's now Mahan's to lose. He got good starting experience last year all be it at center. However he's a young guy who's good in run blocking. I liked what he did last year learning on the run as he did. Terry can of course take the job back but it's good to see this type of competition.

I was worried about a young offensive line this year. I hope the growing pains are not too bad. Its probably a good thing or Caddy but bad for Griese.

[Psykes]

Originally Posted by chileno

it makes me wonder if Terry was a wasted pick.

Just a 5th rounder. Don't worry, he'll rotate in and out quite often, especially seeing as how Mahan isn't all that much better than Terry, and that it will get quite hot for some of those Tampa home games and so even o-linemen will need to catch a breather.

[Psykes]

Originally Posted by MarleyMon81

I still think Buenning could end up the starting LG, but this minor calf injury he has could stall that. The games will tell the tale. Stinchcomb isn't a major hurdle to clear.

Oh ya! Buenning is my pick for biggest surprise on the line. This guy is going to really grind it out in the run game for us.

Originally Posted by MarleyMon81

With guys like Davis, Buenning, and Mahan along the line, those are 3 road plows when it comes to the running game. It won't happen overnight with the young guys, but it's a step in the right direction.

Ya, definately, I think we finally have guys that can wear down opposing d-lines, not vise versa.

[paco74]

This is excellent news. Its good to see there is light where once only darkness linger in the depth of our O-line. The most exciting thing is that both these guys are young. There is no reason to think both these guys won't see significant playing time. Gruden seems to like versitile players. Maybe whom ever doesn't get the guard position can move to anothre spot.
Man, I can't wait for the first snap of the year!!!

[Ballin_Since_76]

good deal. mahan has more experience from starting last year i think hes a better all around lineman. good move...

[Psykes]

Originally Posted by paco74

Maybe whom ever doesn't get the guard position can move to anothre spot.

I'm thinking that when Wade moves on or just leaves our team down the road, Mahan should be able to step in at center, allowing Terry to start at guard. I'm sure we'll find plent ST work for a young lineman like Terry to do (assuming he doesn't make the starting lineup).

[DeadEagle]

The four TC games are going to be extra important for whomever wants to start this year. If Buenning, Colmer, Davis or Terry turns it up a notch.... they'll almost be assured a spot.

It looks that wide open right now.

[msbuc]

Originally Posted by Psykes

I'm thinking that when Wade moves on or just leaves our team down the road, Mahan should be able to step in at center, allowing Terry to start at guard. I'm sure we'll find plent ST work for a young lineman like Terry to do (assuming he doesn't make the starting lineup).

This is exactly the scenario I see for next year. Judging from Terry's play in the pre-season last year, he probably needs one more year to develope. Hopefully, he gets some meaningfull reps this year (somebody's gonna get hurt sometime), and can build on that for next year. Mahan went through the same process, struggling as a rookie, much improved last season, and seems to be rounding out nicely. Its very possible that a Davis-Buenning-Mahan-Terry-Colmer (left to right) OL could take shape in 06. We have some of the better pass rushing DL's in our division, so we're gonna need these lads to come through in the long term, and hope for the best in the short. As we all know, a real key to this/future season's outlooks.

[cee]

i hope its davis, buenning, mahan, terry/clinkscale, colmer

[msbuc]

Originally Posted by cee

i hope its davis, buenning, mahan, terry/clinkscale, colmer

SOLD!!!

This is also a good argument why young guys should see playing time and develop. I'm certain Mahan wouldn't have improved as much both last year and DURING THE OFF SEASON if he hadn't seen significant playing time last year. Makes you wonder how good Davis and Terry could have become if they'd been given a little taste of starting too.

[msbuc]

Originally Posted by TCJ

This is also a good argument why young guys should see playing time and develop. I'm certain Mahan wouldn't have improved as much both last year and DURING THE OFF SEASON if he hadn't seen significant playing time last year. Makes you wonder how good Davis and Terry could have become if they'd been given a little taste of starting too.

You're correct, the hard part is determining when they're ready, so they can work into the lineup without getting your backfield killed. An example is Mahan during his rookie year. He was backing up Kerry Jenkins, who was just horrible as a pass blocker. After getting beaten one time too many, Jenkins was pulled and Mahan put in. Sean played at Notre Dame, at a time when they didn't have to pass block very often, and he was actually worse (totally overwhelmed) than Jenkins, who was put back in a short time later. Having watched Jeb Terry carefully last pre-season, I was quite sure he wouldn't be ready to go in anytime last year. Like Mahan, hopefully that's changed. I have the same concern for Buenning and Clinkscale. Both were productive blockers against top competition for several years, but Wisconsin relies heavily on the running game, and these two will probably need more time to pick up pass blocking. I'm also going to be watching Doug Buckles closely. He was a 3+ year starter at Ole Miss, mostly during Eli's time, so he should be more adept at pass blocking than blocking the run....

[cee]

Originally Posted by TCJ

Makes you wonder how good Davis and Terry could have become if they'd been given a little taste of starting too.

ya scott reynolds from the buccaneer blitz mentioned how the only reason why deese, stinchcomb and steussie started last year was completely political (cuz of their salaries).. deese had as much talent as davis, but no upside, but experience [which was the upperhand]. kinda ****es me off that it was a wasted year last year, when we couldve made big strides towards maturing our young talent

[Bradentonian]

Originally Posted by cee

i hope its davis, buenning, mahan, terry/clinkscale, colmer

Just curious, who do you have for depth at each of those positions?

[LynchPin]

Originally Posted by MarleyMon81

Ira Kaufman, of the Tampa Tribune, reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Jon Gruden has indicated OG Sean Mahan has moved ahead of OG Jeb Terry at the starting right guard as of Saturday, August 6.

Well according to the St. Pete Times:

"How bad is the tackle situation? Right tackle Kenyatta Walker has missed several practices with a sore knee. Veteran Lance Nimmo quit Friday. Rookie Chris Colmer had struggled so much, the Bucs moved Jeb Terry from guard to right tackle."

So, did Mahan really move past Terry at RG or did Mahan get moved up to 1st string because Terry was moved to RT with Kenyatta Walker injured and Colmer struggling?